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Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/12/2013 12:54:16 PM)

Joba added to Tigs

12:53pm: Chamberlain's deal is worth $2.5MM and contains performance bonuses, according to Olney (on Twitter).




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/12/2013 1:01:22 PM)

Napoli 2 years/32 mill to bring the beard back to Boston.




sixthwi -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/12/2013 1:32:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Napoli 2 years/32 mill to bring the beard back to Boston.



Suddenly Baby J's contract doesn't seem so excessive.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/12/2013 2:23:53 PM)

45 guys were selected in the Rule 5 draft this morning. Only nine of those were in the major league portion:
•The Astros drafted lefty Patrick Schuster from the Diamondbacks;
•The White Sox drafted catcher Adrian Nieto from the Nationals;
•The Phillies drafted righty Kevin Munson from the Diamondbacks;
•The Rockies drafted righty Tommy Kahnle from the Yankees;
•The Blue Jays drafted lefty Brian Moran from the Phillies;
•The Brewers drafted lefty Wei-Chung Wang from the Pirates;
•The Diamondbacks drafted righty Marcos Mateo from the Cubs; and
•The Orioles drafted third baseman Michael Almanzar from the Red Sox

Beyond that? a lot of minor league selections of no real note. Save one: Russell Wilson. Yes, the Seattle Seahawks QB. He was a second baseman in the Rockies system once upon a time. And though his baseball days are clearly over, the Texas Rangers selected him. Why? According go Ken Rosenthal of Fox, the Rangers want him in-house, in effect, to give motivational speeches and stuff next spring. For real.


Interesting.




Jim Frenette -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/12/2013 3:16:54 PM)

There's been a lot of movement this winter and I think the Mets and Mariners helped themselves the most




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/18/2013 3:22:49 PM)

Boras is holding out for closer to Ellsbury $$$


Free agent Shin-Soo Choo reportedly turned down a seven-year, $140 million offer from the Yankees this offseason, according to a report Wednesday from Jeff Passan of Yahoo! Sports.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/18/2013 4:03:00 PM)

Val traded to KC.




Dave E -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/18/2013 4:05:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Boras is holding out for closer to Ellsbury $$$


Free agent Shin-Soo Choo reportedly turned down a seven-year, $140 million offer from the Yankees this offseason, according to a report Wednesday from Jeff Passan of Yahoo! Sports.


This will be an interesting one.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/21/2013 12:19:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Dave E

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Boras is holding out for closer to Ellsbury $$$


Free agent Shin-Soo Choo reportedly turned down a seven-year, $140 million offer from the Yankees this offseason, according to a report Wednesday from Jeff Passan of Yahoo! Sports.


This will be an interesting one.


Choo signs 7/130 w/Texas. Whoops. Guess that 140 mill offer wasn't so bad after all.




TJSweens -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/22/2013 10:03:21 AM)

Good to see it back fire for a change for Bore-ass. All in all a good off-season for him though. He got the Mariners and Skanks to grossly overpay for Cano and Ellsbury. Not to mention getting the Twins to bid against themselves for Pelfree.




Trekgeekscott -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/23/2013 7:39:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Good to see it back fire for a change for Bore-ass. All in all a good off-season for him though. He got the Mariners and Skanks to grossly overpay for Cano and Ellsbury. Not to mention getting the Twins to bid against themselves for Pelfree.


I thought Cano was represented by JayZ or something...




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/24/2013 9:47:46 AM)

I thought I saw this scrolling on the bottom line several days ago. Had to confirm it wasn't a dream. A real blast from the past.

LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. (AP) -- Tomo Ohka, who last pitched in the major leagues in 2009, has agreed to a minor league contract with the Toronto Blue Jays.

The 37-year-old right-hander was 51-68 for Boston (1999-01), Montreal (2001-04), Washington (2005), Milwaukee (2005-06), Toronto (2007) and Cleveland (2009). He has played in Japan for Yokohama (1995-98 and 2010-11) and Toyama (2013).

Blue Jays general manager Alex Anthopoulos said Thursday that Ohka likely would start the season at Double-A New Hampshire.

''We want to see how he does,'' Anthopoulos said. ''There's no downside to us to signing a minor league contract. We know him before: a good athlete, strike-thrower, determined, and we'd like to see if we can get him to bounce back.''




Stacey King -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/24/2013 1:40:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

I thought I saw this scrolling on the bottom line several days ago. Had to confirm it wasn't a dream. A real blast from the past.

LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. (AP) -- Tomo Ohka, who last pitched in the major leagues in 2009, has agreed to a minor league contract with the Toronto Blue Jays.

The 37-year-old right-hander was 51-68 for Boston (1999-01), Montreal (2001-04), Washington (2005), Milwaukee (2005-06), Toronto (2007) and Cleveland (2009). He has played in Japan for Yokohama (1995-98 and 2010-11) and Toyama (2013).

Blue Jays general manager Alex Anthopoulos said Thursday that Ohka likely would start the season at Double-A New Hampshire.

''We want to see how he does,'' Anthopoulos said. ''There's no downside to us to signing a minor league contract. We know him before: a good athlete, strike-thrower, determined, and we'd like to see if we can get him to bounce back.''



Tomo "Beer Barrel" Ohka




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/26/2013 8:56:56 AM)

Tanaka bidding war to begin.

Twins don't stand a chance.Any posting will be posturing. They will not try to really compete with the big boys.

And, for Tanaka, why come to MN? East/West coast is where it's at.




Dave E -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/26/2013 8:59:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Tanaka bidding war to begin.

Twins don't stand a chance.Any posting will be posturing. They will not try to really compete with the big boys.

And, for Tanaka, why come to MN? East/West coast is where it's at.


Agree.  Even if the Twins make a legit offer, Dodgers/Yanks will match, and why come here when you can go play with the big boys?




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/27/2013 8:12:35 AM)

RIP Paul Blair.

My dad always told me he was a Twins killer. I checked out his career stats against the Twins and they are pretty good. I'd say he had more success against the Twins than he did against any team other than the Red Sox.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/27/2013 1:41:18 PM)

The Baseball Writers’ Association of America decided at the winter meetings to form a committee to discuss the 10-vote limit and other possible changes. I’m not terribly bothered that I stopped voting for McGriff, Smith and Trammell this year. I would prefer it to be otherwise, but a natural weeding-out process took place. Not ideal, but not necessarily unjust.

This is Trammell’s 13th year on the ballot and Smith’s 12th. Neither seems likely of ever receiving the required 75 percent for induction. McGriff has been on the ballot only four years, but has yet to receive more than 23.9 percent of the vote. If I can find room for him in the future, I will.

My greater fear, as I filled out my ballot, was that certain players would not receive 5 percent, eliminating them from future consideration by the BBWAA. I was concerned, in particular, about two players - Mussina and Jeff Kent. Mussina, in my view, is a definite Hall of Famer. Kent is worthy, too, though I am not quite as bullish on his candidacy.

Maybe my fears are unwarranted – 569 votes were cast last year, and a candidate needed only 29 to exceed the 5 percent minimum. Still, Kenny Lofton received only 18 votes, falling off the ballot in his first year of eligibility. I don’t view Lofton as a Hall of Famer. I do believe he merited longer consideration.

In any case, the 10-man limit forced me to vote strategically. Trammell was my most difficult exclusion. In the end, I dropped him to add Mussina.

I considered ways to maneuver Kent onto my ballot as well, perhaps even by dropping Edgar Martinez, knowing that Edgar is unlikely to reach 75 percent this year, anyway. I even thought about including Kent over Mussina, sensing that it might be more difficult for Kent to hit the 5 percent threshold due to his occasionally frosty dealings with the media.

In the end, though, I tried not to overthink it, and simply went with the 10 candidates I felt were most deserving. In a perfect world, yes, the BBWAA would abolish the 10-vote limit, and we could choose as many candidates as we wished. But that world does not yet exist. So I made choices, difficult choices, choices that I would have preferred to avoid.

I won’t pretend my ballot is perfect. No ballot is perfect. All voters can do is take their best shot every year. And then try again.


See the entire article by Rosenthal here:

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/how-maddux-changed-rosenthal-s-hof-voting-perspective-122613

He admits he was one of those that never voted for 1st time candidates. Weird.

He's changing that this year. He doesn't want to be the one that ruins Maddux's chances at unanimous election. He'll leave that honor to some other writer(s).




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (1/2/2014 5:39:50 AM)

The Marlins have agreed to terms with outfielder Joe Benson on a minor-league contract and spring training invite, Chris Cotillo of MLB Daily Dish tweets.




ewen21 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (1/2/2014 5:49:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

RIP Paul Blair.

My dad always told me he was a Twins killer. I checked out his career stats against the Twins and they are pretty good. I'd say he had more success against the Twins than he did against any team other than the Red Sox.


I didn't see Paul Blair when he was at his best. I saw the post beaning Paul Blair. He was probably the most severe case of a major leaguer stepping in the bucket that I have ever seen




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (1/5/2014 2:47:12 PM)

I'm pretty concerned about this HOF vote. For many years you could look at the ballot and have a hard time filling 10 spots. Ideally, that's the way it should work. But since they haven't been electing very many guys for years now, it's to the point where there are 15 legitimate candidates and only 10 spots available.

Biggio just missed last year, but he'll probably fall well short this year. The reason? He has more time to be elected in later years, so voters will favor other candidates that will fall off the ballot sooner - and there just aren't enough spots.

Maddux is in, obviously.

Thomas and Glavine will probably get in, and rightfully so.

The problem with 3 no-brainer candidates is that it only leaves 7 other spots.

There are guys that may not be HOFers like Jeff Kent and Larry Walker that will probably fall off the ballot way too soon. Trammell, Blyleven, Rice, Gossage....they never had to worry about falling under 5%. Then they could be re-evaluated over time. Kent and Walker deserve to be on the ballot for more than a year or two.

The simple solution here is to just let the writers vote for as many as they want. But some of these guys have agendas, so I don't think the HOF will allow the writers to have that much power. How about as a compromise you raise it to a maximum of 15 slots?

The system is broken when voters are saying they will vote for a guy they fear will fall off the ballot (I've heard Mussina, Schilling, Kent, etc.) over a more deserving player (Biggio).

List out the guys. There are at least 15 that deserve serious consideration. The way it works now, you have to start with those guys and then cut guys out until you get down to 10. This is probably the year a guy like Fred McGriff falls off the ballot because it's very difficult for anyone to say he's better than 10 other players. That's one hell of a career to just fall off the ballot that quickly. The basics of the process are OK, and doesn't need a complete overhaul - but I think the 10-vote limit has now become too limiting. The primary blame is steroids because guys like Clemens, Bonds, McGwire, etc., should have gone in long ago and not be clogging up the ballot. But they are, and it's controversial, so they will continue to run around 20-30% and continue to be on the ballot over and over. IMO it's not right that the controversy of steroids is essentially kicking players off the ballot that had no ties to steroids whatsoever (for instance, if Mussina doesn't get to 5%). That ain't right.

My prediction of those that make it: Maddux 99% - Thomas 79% - Glavine 77%

Not in: Biggio 65% - Morris 60% - Bagwell 53% - Raines 49% - Piazza 44%

p.s. It's interesting to hear that Mussina will receive such a low vote total, when he actually had more career WAR than Glavine. I don't think Mussina will actually be as close to 5% as some think. He'll safely move on to the next ballot.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (1/5/2014 7:28:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ewen21

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

RIP Paul Blair.

My dad always told me he was a Twins killer. I checked out his career stats against the Twins and they are pretty good. I'd say he had more success against the Twins than he did against any team other than the Red Sox.


I didn't see Paul Blair when he was at his best. I saw the post beaning Paul Blair. He was probably the most severe case of a major leaguer stepping in the bucket that I have ever seen


Paul Blairs best days were in my wheelhouse ....   dude was smoooooth before smooth was cool




Dave E -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (1/6/2014 9:33:14 AM)

Matt, interesting stuff.  Definite problems with the HOF.  Agree, I think there are 15 guys who should easily be in.  I'll be curious to see how they deal with this.

I think only Maddux makes it this year -- I think there are 20 guys at least who will get significant votes, and that will dilute the pool enough that no one else gets to 75%.

I think the HOF is going to have to do something if this keep up (and as more and more obvious guys -- Pedro, Johnson, etc. -- make the ballot in the next few years).  Not sure what that is, though.




CPAMAN -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (1/6/2014 9:45:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Napoli 2 years/32 mill to bring the beard back to Boston.



Wayyyyyyyy overpay. Extreme stupidity.




CPAMAN -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (1/6/2014 11:15:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

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ORIGINAL: ewen21

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

RIP Paul Blair.

My dad always told me he was a Twins killer. I checked out his career stats against the Twins and they are pretty good. I'd say he had more success against the Twins than he did against any team other than the Red Sox.


I didn't see Paul Blair when he was at his best. I saw the post beaning Paul Blair. He was probably the most severe case of a major leaguer stepping in the bucket that I have ever seen


Paul Blairs best days were in my wheelhouse ....   dude was smoooooth before smooth was cool


Blair was the Kenny Lofton of his era before guys like that were even invented.




TJSweens -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (1/6/2014 11:28:03 AM)

Yep, Blair was one of the players I really hated in the late 60's early 70's.




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