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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

Don Shula died today. He lived until 90. Not a bad run. I remember Shula talking about the Super Bowl in the undefeated season. He said it's going to be boring. We're going to control the ball with the run and our D is going to shut them down. The final score was 14-7 and it was never in doubt.

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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Tom Pelissero@TomPelissero
NFL clubs today received updated playing rules change proposals.

Most interesting: an alternative to the onside kick that would allow a team a chance to maintain possession by going for it on 4th-and-15 from their 25-yard line. Sounds like support for the idea is growing.

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Tom Pelissero@TomPelissero
NFL clubs today received updated playing rules change proposals.

Most interesting: an alternative to the onside kick that would allow a team a chance to maintain possession by going for it on 4th-and-15 from their 25-yard line. Sounds like support for the idea is growing.

Too easy. Should be 20 yards.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

I like the proposed change. More games will come down to the wire. What's the onside kick success % ~20%? Sure its exciting when it happens but it feels like it doesn't happen often at all. This new way could be double the success rate.

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

One way to think about it, which could lead to some less competitive games in the short run but which might be interesting at the end of games and in the long run, would be to always give the ball back to the touchdown scoring team at their own 20. After FGs it would go to the non-scoring team at their own 20. Teams would have to develop according to what works to win games, be it improving aspects of offense or defense to leverage the rules.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

One way to think about it, which could lead to some less competitive games in the short run but which might be interesting at the end of games and in the long run, would be to always give the ball back to the touchdown scoring team at their own 20. After FGs it would go to the non-scoring team at their own 20. Teams would have to develop according to what works to win games, be it improving aspects of offense or defense to leverage the rules.

This I kind of hate.

I think you risk having a lot of super non-competitive games that start off bad and just snowball. And I think you risk losing a lot of viewers early in games.

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I like the proposed change. More games will come down to the wire. What's the onside kick success % ~20%? Sure its exciting when it happens but it feels like it doesn't happen often at all. This new way could be double the success rate.

Onside kick success dropped from 21 percent to 6 percent after new rule

When the NFL changed the rules governing kickoffs before the 2018 season, little was said about onside kicks. The focus was on the vast majority of kickoffs, in which the ball is kicked deep and players run full-speed down the field to try to make a tackle, resulting in plenty of head-on collisions.

But onside kicks have become a major casualty of the new kickoff rules, which prevent players from getting a running start before the ball is kicked.

In the 2017 NFL season there were 57 onside kicks and the kicking team recovered 12 of them, or 21 percent. In 2018-2019, under the new rules, there have been 79 onside kicks and the kicking team has recovered 5 of them, or 6 percent.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/03/onside-kick-success-dropped-from-21-percent-to-6-percent-after-new-rule/

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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if an inferior team keeps getting the ball back - more and more chances - the likelihood of them connecting increases...they can be getting their asses kicked the entire game and then score a couple of fluke td's and win the game - and against a tired defense that's been out on the filed for three consecutive series....

i don't like rule changes that try to create parity/excitement through special treatment for the inferior - it mitigates the first 55 minutes of playing time....





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ORIGINAL: Pager

Would you outlaw Hail Mary's?

Ban laterals on kick off returns? (thinking of the Titans playoff win).

Make the plays or you don't deserve to win no matter what you did the first 55 minutes.


Any follow UofM 98 basketball team? Come from behind win against Indiana (I think). Down by 10 or so with 1 minute left and sam jacobson went off? Or REggie Miller with the Pacers.

Comeback wins are memorable. Why do anything that limits those opps?

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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i didn't even consider this...can you imagine a high-flying offense going out there against a bad defense 8-10 times and scoring td's before the other team even sees the ball?....


Tom Pelissero@TomPelissero
If the onside kick alternative passes in its current form, who would be the first coach to score on the opening drive, then try to double up before the opposing QB touches the ball?
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