RE: Other NFL News

Talk Vikes and Other MN Sports

Forums Register Login My Profile Inbox Address Book My Subscription My Forums

Photo Gallery Member List Search Calendars FAQ Ticket List Log Out

RE: Other NFL News

Logged in as: Guest

Users viewing this topic: none

Printable Version

All Forums >> [The Minnesota Vikings] >> Vikes Talk >> RE: Other NFL News

Page: << < prev 89 90 [91] 92 93 next > >>

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

RE: Other NFL News - 2/5/2022 5:06:53 PM

marty

Posts: 12629
Joined: 12/28/2007
Status: offline

You're right, I heard O'Connell had more to do with designing plays. McVay did NOT want to lose O'Connell last offseason.

_____________________________

SKOL to the BOWL !!!

Post #: 2251

RE: Other NFL News - 2/6/2022 11:37:26 AM

thebigo

Posts: 28246
Joined: 7/14/2007
Status: offline

So who was the last HC we hired who was a non-playcalling OC with his previous team?

Post #: 2252

RE: Other NFL News - 2/6/2022 11:44:07 AM

Daniel Lee Young

Posts: 12770
Joined: 9/21/2013
Status: online

Childress?

_____________________________

"Thou shall not bear false witness”
I am WRATH, incarnate.
@RlyeeNicole’sDad

Post #: 2253

RE: Other NFL News - 2/6/2022 11:45:17 AM

marty

Posts: 12629
Joined: 12/28/2007
Status: offline

It wasn't Zac Taylor

_____________________________

SKOL to the BOWL !!!

Post #: 2254

RE: Other NFL News - 2/6/2022 11:48:32 AM

thebigo

Posts: 28246
Joined: 7/14/2007
Status: offline

That was more of a rhetorical question...

Post #: 2255

RE: Other NFL News - 2/10/2022 9:50:25 AM

Phil Riewer

Posts: 26297
Joined: 8/24/2007
From: MN
Status: offline

NFL Rumors
@nflrums
·
3h
The Arizona Cardinals Kyler Murray is asking for an extension between $50-55 million. #NFL #RedSea

_____________________________

SSG Riewer, Greg A Co 2/136 CAB
KIA 23 March 2007 Habbaniyah Iraq

Post #: 2256

RE: Other NFL News - 2/10/2022 10:35:42 AM

Todd M

Posts: 39714
Joined: 7/14/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

NFL Rumors
@nflrums
·
3h
The Arizona Cardinals Kyler Murray is asking for an extension between $50-55 million. #NFL #RedSea

4 years 55 million total...

Post #: 2257

RE: Other NFL News - 2/10/2022 11:47:02 AM

ronhextall

Posts: 6271
Joined: 7/19/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Todd M

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

NFL Rumors
@nflrums
·
3h
The Arizona Cardinals Kyler Murray is asking for an extension between $50-55 million. #NFL #RedSea

4 years 55 million total...

If he is willing to sign for $13.5 million a year I would think Arizona would have done that deal instantly.

Post #: 2258

RE: Other NFL News - 2/10/2022 6:43:51 PM

marty

Posts: 12629
Joined: 12/28/2007
Status: offline

This is a well written article about Stafford:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/matthew-stafford-gave-the-rams-a-shot-at-a-title-the-rams-gave-stafford-a-shot-at-canton/

Looking at the comparisons with Stafford and Goff, I wonder how Kirk does against man coverage, beating blitzes, 4th quarter, and some of the other things mentioned ?

_____________________________

SKOL to the BOWL !!!

Post #: 2259

RE: Other NFL News - 2/11/2022 9:00:02 AM

Lynn G.

Posts: 32350
Joined: 7/15/2007
Status: offline

How can someone be named a "Most Valuable Player" when he was caught putting his teammates at risk by lying about his vaccine status? How is that valuable in any sense of the word?

And when the same guy created so much drama even before the season started with his "will he or won't he play for the team that holds his contract?" that forced his teammates to constantly have to answer the same questions - how is that valuable for his team?

Stats aren't everything that should go into a decision like naming an MVP. "Value" encompasses a whole lot more than that.

_____________________________

Put our country back in the hands of people who actually want to do things to help everyday citizens. Elect Democrats.

Post #: 2260

RE: Other NFL News - 2/11/2022 10:08:40 AM

Tom Sykes

Posts: 5685
Joined: 7/27/2007
Status: online

How can the MVP not include playoffs and super bowl as factors?

Total sham.

Post #: 2261

RE: Other NFL News - 2/11/2022 11:13:22 AM

marty

Posts: 12629
Joined: 12/28/2007
Status: offline

Good point Tom, I sometimes think of the regular season as a pre-season for the playoffs.

_____________________________

SKOL to the BOWL !!!

Post #: 2262

RE: Other NFL News - 2/11/2022 12:49:26 PM

Daniel Lee Young

Posts: 12770
Joined: 9/21/2013
Status: online

I agree.. if Stafford leads the Rams to a win in the SB..

Easy more MVP than erin…

_____________________________

"Thou shall not bear false witness”
I am WRATH, incarnate.
@RlyeeNicole’sDad

Post #: 2263

RE: Other NFL News - 2/11/2022 12:59:09 PM

Ricky J

Posts: 18176
Joined: 7/19/2007
Status: online

Do we have a winner? Haven't heard yet.

Well the argument for not including the playoffs would be you'd never have a winner that was on a team that didn't make the playoffs. That's easy for us arm chair QBs to deal with but some damn good players would be eliminated due to team success ... and we're talking football where there are what we've always been told 3 phases (O, D, ST) to the game with 11 on a side at a time. Harder for one person to control the outcome as much as that sport that plays 5 v. 5.

< Message edited by Ricky J -- 2/11/2022 1:03:18 PM >

Post #: 2264

RE: Other NFL News - 2/11/2022 1:44:11 PM

Tom Sykes

Posts: 5685
Joined: 7/27/2007
Status: online

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

Do we have a winner? Haven't heard yet.

Well the argument for not including the playoffs would be you'd never have a winner that was on a team that didn't make the playoffs. That's easy for us arm chair QBs to deal with but some damn good players would be eliminated due to team success ... and we're talking football where there are what we've always been told 3 phases (O, D, ST) to the game with 11 on a side at a time. Harder for one person to control the outcome as much as that sport that plays 5 v. 5.

Do you mean, some good players would be eliminated because they were on non-playoff or on non-super bowl teams ?

I would argue that all games (including playoff games and the SB) should be used as part of the evaluation.

< Message edited by Tom Sykes -- 2/11/2022 1:46:42 PM >

Post #: 2265

RE: Other NFL News - 2/11/2022 2:58:34 PM

Bill Jandro

Posts: 17815
Joined: 8/13/2007
Status: offline

MVP is a regular season award. As is ROY and DPOY.

Voters are not suppose to incorporate anything other than the players play on the field.

_____________________________

Oline...early and often this draft

Post #: 2266

RE: Other NFL News - 2/11/2022 4:03:33 PM

Ricky J

Posts: 18176
Joined: 7/19/2007
Status: online

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

Do we have a winner? Haven't heard yet.

Well the argument for not including the playoffs would be you'd never have a winner that was on a team that didn't make the playoffs. That's easy for us arm chair QBs to deal with but some damn good players would be eliminated due to team success ... and we're talking football where there are what we've always been told 3 phases (O, D, ST) to the game with 11 on a side at a time. Harder for one person to control the outcome as much as that sport that plays 5 v. 5.

Do you mean, some good players would be eliminated because they were on non-playoff or on non-super bowl teams ?

I would argue that all games (including playoff games and the SB) should be used as part of the evaluation.

Yes

Post #: 2267

RE: Other NFL News - 2/11/2022 4:05:03 PM

Ricky J

Posts: 18176
Joined: 7/19/2007
Status: online

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

Do we have a winner? Haven't heard yet.

Well the argument for not including the playoffs would be you'd never have a winner that was on a team that didn't make the playoffs. That's easy for us arm chair QBs to deal with but some damn good players would be eliminated due to team success ... and we're talking football where there are what we've always been told 3 phases (O, D, ST) to the game with 11 on a side at a time. Harder for one person to control the outcome as much as that sport that plays 5 v. 5.

Do you mean, some good players would be eliminated because they were on non-playoff or on non-super bowl teams ?

I would argue that all games (including playoff games and the SB) should be used as part of the evaluation.

Yes

Theoretically

Post #: 2268

RE: Other NFL News - 2/12/2022 4:33:42 PM

thebigo

Posts: 28246
Joined: 7/14/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

Do we have a winner? Haven't heard yet.

Well the argument for not including the playoffs would be you'd never have a winner that was on a team that didn't make the playoffs. That's easy for us arm chair QBs to deal with but some damn good players would be eliminated due to team success ... and we're talking football where there are what we've always been told 3 phases (O, D, ST) to the game with 11 on a side at a time. Harder for one person to control the outcome as much as that sport that plays 5 v. 5.

Do you mean, some good players would be eliminated because they were on non-playoff or on non-super bowl teams ?

I would argue that all games (including playoff games and the SB) should be used as part of the evaluation.

Yes

Theoretically

Really "big" games happen in the playoffs. A player who chokes in the playoffs, that SHOULD be a big part of the consideration.

Post #: 2269

RE: Other NFL News - 2/12/2022 4:38:26 PM

thebigo

Posts: 28246
Joined: 7/14/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: ronhextall

quote:

ORIGINAL: Todd M

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

NFL Rumors
@nflrums
·
3h
The Arizona Cardinals Kyler Murray is asking for an extension between $50-55 million. #NFL #RedSea

4 years 55 million total...

If he is willing to sign for $13.5 million a year I would think Arizona would have done that deal instantly.

Looks like $13.75M/yr just a little too much.

Post #: 2270

RE: Other NFL News - 2/12/2022 7:46:23 PM

Zoilo

Posts: 8032
Joined: 7/19/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Todd M

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

NFL Rumors
@nflrums
·
3h
The Arizona Cardinals Kyler Murray is asking for an extension between $50-55 million. #NFL #RedSea

4 years 55 million total...

Murrray really went down after a nice start to the season. His playoff performance didn't look good. I can't see paying him over $10 million a year.

_____________________________

Z

Post #: 2271

RE: Other NFL News - 2/12/2022 9:07:03 PM

marty

Posts: 12629
Joined: 12/28/2007
Status: offline

Since KC and MS have similar stats, If Stafford has a really good Super Bowl, or a really poor Super Bowl, will that affect the trade value of Cousins ?

_____________________________

SKOL to the BOWL !!!

Post #: 2272

RE: Other NFL News - 2/12/2022 9:11:18 PM

marty

Posts: 12629
Joined: 12/28/2007
Status: offline

Interesting how Aaron Rodgers tested positive right before an away game at KC, a game that might have affected his MVP status, had he had a poor performance compared to Mahomes.

Also interesting that KC tested positive right before an away game where he may have looked bad, playing at the Packers, who were playing for homefield and a bye.

_____________________________

SKOL to the BOWL !!!

Post #: 2273

RE: Other NFL News - 2/12/2022 11:46:37 PM

thebigo

Posts: 28246
Joined: 7/14/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Zoilo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Todd M

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

NFL Rumors
@nflrums
·
3h
The Arizona Cardinals Kyler Murray is asking for an extension between $50-55 million. #NFL #RedSea

4 years 55 million total...

Murrray really went down after a nice start to the season. His playoff performance didn't look good. I can't see paying him over $10 million a year.