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Couple of thoughts on the other posts.

We did what Bilichick does. Finally. They couldn't stop the run, we f****** ran it down their throats. Would 1-2 play-actions have helped extend a drive or two late in the game. Sure. But the game was over by mid way through the 3rd Quarter. Atlanta was warming up their back-up. It's a good thing we are pseudo-debating this (instead of "real issues"). Didn't think twice during or after the game about offensive play calling.

Elf has to be on a short leash. Garrett is tough. So is Hicks, Daniels, Clark, Cox, etc, etc, etc. Yes they were attacking him, and so will every other defensive coordinator worth a grain of salt. You can argue 2nd string all day, but Jones best year in the NFL dwarfs Elf's best year. I'm not saying pull him today, but Elf completely whiffed on too many plays not to be worried. Almost got Cousins killed on that fumble. OR you better have a scheme that protects him, which is tough with a rookie Center.

I was thinking that exact same thought during and after the game. I just really REALLY hope that we did that because we are finally smart and not because that was simply the gameplan and we got lucky. What I'm saying is that I hope the team is ready and eager to do the same thing when the situation calls for very little running, exploiting one particular matchup over and over, or any other strategy that diverges from what an old-school coach would call 'normal'.

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You have to love on successive plays Cousins throws a pass to Dalvin in the flat who gets tackled for no gain.Falcons LBer Deon Jones

stands over Cook celebrating as the broadcast team lauds about how Jones is the best LBer in the league nobody knows about.

Next play Dalvin absolutely trucks over that same Jones about 25 yards down the field. Dalvin changes the scoreboard two plays later from 19 yards out.

Special player w/ better blocking bodes well.

Favorite play of the game, Dalvin trucking a guy who had him lined up
Dudes a real football player
Still think he hits the hole faster than any back we've had
I'm sure that will get shot down, but it just appears that way to me.
Love how he bursts thru small openings.
That can make a shitty O line look ok. An ok O line look good, and an above-average O Line look fantastic.
Hope we keep growing what we saw, and I hope we realize the scouting that will be done on us from this point on.
Creativity in play-calling is going to start to get more important every week. Starting now.

Cook is so fun to watch.

Very smooth and explosive.
(seems like a contradictory statement, but he is smooth and fast! )

I told my buddy here to draft Cook in FF; that he'd be monster this year. First time in 17 years I don't have a FF team, kinda nice to turn off the games after the Vikes played.

Cook reminds me a bit of Robert Smith. He could hit the hole and be through it with the best of them (pls Cook & AP among the top Vikes I've seen speed through the hole). Smith was also deceptively fast, so smooth, you didn't realize the chunks of yards he was eating up. Loved the debate on who would be faster Smith or Moss.

Cook is fast, but not Moss/Smith fast. However, Cook runs with more power and is harder to tackle. Robert Smith so fast and seldom gets recognition for it. As I said before I have seen Randy Moss get caught from behind. Have never seen Robert Smith get caught from behind. Not saying I'm just saying.

I think you're mistaken about Smith not getting recognition for being fast. My recollection was that it was often mentioned that he ran the 100M in college, and I would imagine that OSU is reasonably competitive nationally.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

Couple of thoughts on the other posts.

We did what Bilichick does. Finally. They couldn't stop the run, we f****** ran it down their throats. Would 1-2 play-actions have helped extend a drive or two late in the game. Sure. But the game was over by mid way through the 3rd Quarter. Atlanta was warming up their back-up. It's a good thing we are pseudo-debating this (instead of "real issues"). Didn't think twice during or after the game about offensive play calling.

Elf has to be on a short leash. Garrett is tough. So is Hicks, Daniels, Clark, Cox, etc, etc, etc. Yes they were attacking him, and so will every other defensive coordinator worth a grain of salt. You can argue 2nd string all day, but Jones best year in the NFL dwarfs Elf's best year. I'm not saying pull him today, but Elf completely whiffed on too many plays not to be worried. Almost got Cousins killed on that fumble. OR you better have a scheme that protects him, which is tough with a rookie Center.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

Couple of thoughts on the other posts.

We did what Bilichick does. Finally. They couldn't stop the run, we f****** ran it down their throats. Would 1-2 play-actions have helped extend a drive or two late in the game. Sure. But the game was over by mid way through the 3rd Quarter. Atlanta was warming up their back-up. It's a good thing we are pseudo-debating this (instead of "real issues"). Didn't think twice during or after the game about offensive play calling.

Elf has to be on a short leash. Garrett is tough. So is Hicks, Daniels, Clark, Cox, etc, etc, etc. Yes they were attacking him, and so will every other defensive coordinator worth a grain of salt. You can argue 2nd string all day, but Jones best year in the NFL dwarfs Elf's best year. I'm not saying pull him today, but Elf completely whiffed on too many plays not to be worried. Almost got Cousins killed on that fumble. OR you better have a scheme that protects him, which is tough with a rookie Center.

I would say we ran effectively enough. I wouldn't say we ran it down their f****** throats. The Vikings piled up 102 rushing yards on 5 explosive plays, which is quite impressive. We didn't really control the ball that well on the ground outside of that. The remaining 33 runs averaged 2.12 ypc. Even if you take out Cousins's sneak totals of 4 yards on 6 carries, you have 27 carries at an average of 2.47.

The defense and special teams combined to give the offense some short fields and the offense took advantage nicely and turned them into touch downs. When it came to the grind it out, control the ball eat the clock phase of the game, they were not all that effective running the ball.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

Couple of thoughts on the other posts.

We did what Bilichick does. Finally. They couldn't stop the run, we f****** ran it down their throats. Would 1-2 play-actions have helped extend a drive or two late in the game. Sure. But the game was over by mid way through the 3rd Quarter. Atlanta was warming up their back-up. It's a good thing we are pseudo-debating this (instead of "real issues"). Didn't think twice during or after the game about offensive play calling.

Elf has to be on a short leash. Garrett is tough. So is Hicks, Daniels, Clark, Cox, etc, etc, etc. Yes they were attacking him, and so will every other defensive coordinator worth a grain of salt. You can argue 2nd string all day, but Jones best year in the NFL dwarfs Elf's best year. I'm not saying pull him today, but Elf completely whiffed on too many plays not to be worried. Almost got Cousins killed on that fumble. OR you better have a scheme that protects him, which is tough with a rookie Center.

I would say we ran effectively enough. I wouldn't say we ran it down their f****** throats. The Vikings piled up 102 rushing yards on 5 explosive plays, which is quite impressive. We didn't really control the ball that well on the ground outside of that. The remaining 33 runs averaged 2.12 ypc. Even if you take out Cousins's sneak totals of 4 yards on 6 carries, you have 27 carries at an average of 2.47.

The defense and special teams combined to give the offense some short fields and the offense took advantage nicely and turned them into touch downs. When it came to the grind it out, control the ball eat the clock phase of the game, they were not all that effective running the ball.

pretty much anytime we wanted, we could have played action and killed them, they were selling out on the run, but we didnt need to


like i said previously, i would have preferred a few more reps to practice are pass protection, but understand why we didnt

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Ramblings...


I like some of the optimism here, but.....

I am not ready to say GB is terrible this year, I do agree that Trustinksky is terrible, not "Suck beyond all suck" bad, but bad.


I cant take much information from this first game, it was one of those that just snowballed on the falcons, we arent that good and they arent that bad, IMO


didnt like the PI challenge, waste (did not like the PI call, but NO WAY that is overturned), plus there was another penalty that would have been enforced


would have liked Cook pulled sooner, i wonder if the few that think he is pedestrian are still sticking with that opinion.



thought a couple more pass reps would have been OK in the second half, but not complaining/second guessing


i can probably find some posts of mine from the draft calling for Harris, i was pretty happy when we got him as an UDFA, wanted to draft him


getting pretty concerned on Elf


Rudy could have/should have been let go....we still tend to hang on to vets one year too long, ie greenway, sendejo, Rudy....IMO

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ORIGINAL: drviking

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Pager

Couple of thoughts on the other posts.

We did what Bilichick does. Finally. They couldn't stop the run, we f****** ran it down their throats. Would 1-2 play-actions have helped extend a drive or two late in the game. Sure. But the game was over by mid way through the 3rd Quarter. Atlanta was warming up their back-up. It's a good thing we are pseudo-debating this (instead of "real issues"). Didn't think twice during or after the game about offensive play calling.

Elf has to be on a short leash. Garrett is tough. So is Hicks, Daniels, Clark, Cox, etc, etc, etc. Yes they were attacking him, and so will every other defensive coordinator worth a grain of salt. You can argue 2nd string all day, but Jones best year in the NFL dwarfs Elf's best year. I'm not saying pull him today, but Elf completely whiffed on too many plays not to be worried. Almost got Cousins killed on that fumble. OR you better have a scheme that protects him, which is tough with a rookie Center.

I would say we ran effectively enough. I wouldn't say we ran it down their f****** throats. The Vikings piled up 102 rushing yards on 5 explosive plays, which is quite impressive. We didn't really control the ball that well on the ground outside of that. The remaining 33 runs averaged 2.12 ypc. Even if you take out Cousins's sneak totals of 4 yards on 6 carries, you have 27 carries at an average of 2.47.

The defense and special teams combined to give the offense some short fields and the offense took advantage nicely and turned them into touch downs. When it came to the grind it out, control the ball eat the clock phase of the game, they were not all that effective running the ball.

pretty much anytime we wanted, we could have played action and killed them, they were selling out on the run, but we didnt need to


like i said previously, i would have preferred a few more reps to practice are pass protection, but understand why we didnt

The goal is to win the game. I don't give two flipety doos about how many yards we gained in any facet of the game. This reminds me of how enthralled many are/were of AD's rushing titles. THEY ARE MEANINGLESS.

One come a day there's going to be a parade down Washington Avenue and won't be for anything other than winning enough to get to the Super Bowl and then winning that.

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The goal is to win the game. I don't give two flipety doos about how many yards we gained in any facet of the game.

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ORIGINAL: drviking

Ramblings...

i can probably find some posts of mine from the draft calling for Harris, i was pretty happy when we got him as an UDFA, wanted to draft him

Good stuff Doc,

I pretty much agree on all.

Except I didn't even know who Harris was when we picked him up.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

Couple of thoughts on the other posts.

We did what Bilichick does. Finally. They couldn't stop the run, we f****** ran it down their throats. Would 1-2 play-actions have helped extend a drive or two late in the game. Sure. But the game was over by mid way through the 3rd Quarter. Atlanta was warming up their back-up. It's a good thing we are pseudo-debating this (instead of "real issues"). Didn't think twice during or after the game about offensive play calling.

Elf has to be on a short leash. Garrett is tough. So is Hicks, Daniels, Clark, Cox, etc, etc, etc. Yes they were attacking him, and so will every other defensive coordinator worth a grain of salt. You can argue 2nd string all day, but Jones best year in the NFL dwarfs Elf's best year. I'm not saying pull him today, but Elf completely whiffed on too many plays not to be worried. Almost got Cousins killed on that fumble. OR you better have a scheme that protects him, which is tough with a rookie Center.

I would say we ran effectively enough. I wouldn't say we ran it down their f****** throats. The Vikings piled up 102 rushing yards on 5 explosive plays, which is quite impressive. We didn't really control the ball that well on the ground outside of that. The remaining 33 runs averaged 2.12 ypc. Even if you take out Cousins's sneak totals of 4 yards on 6 carries, you have 27 carries at an average of 2.47.

The defense and special teams combined to give the offense some short fields and the offense took advantage nicely and turned them into touch downs. When it came to the grind it out, control the ball eat the clock phase of the game, they were not all that effective running the ball.

pretty much anytime we wanted, we could have played action and killed them, they were selling out on the run, but we didnt need to


like i said previously, i would have preferred a few more reps to practice are pass protection, but understand why we didnt

The goal is to win the game. I don't give two flipety doos about how many yards we gained in any facet of the game. This reminds me of how enthralled many are/were of AD's rushing titles. THEY ARE MEANINGLESS.

One come a day there's going to be a parade down Washington Avenue and won't be for anything other than winning enough to get to the Super Bowl and then winning that.

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ORIGINAL: drviking

Ramblings...

i can probably find some posts of mine from the draft calling for Harris, i was pretty happy when we got him as an UDFA, wanted to draft him

Good stuff Doc,

I pretty much agree on all.

Except I didn't even know who Harris was when we picked him up.

I'm curious, did you call for him in beginning of the draft or in rounds 6 or 7?

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Ramblings...

i can probably find some posts of mine from the draft calling for Harris, i was pretty happy when we got him as an UDFA, wanted to draft him

Good stuff Doc,

I pretty much agree on all.

Except I didn't even know who Harris was when we picked him up.

I'm curious, did you call for him in beginning of the draft or in rounds 6 or 7?

i didnt have him in the first round


i might have to look, maybe 4th or 5th


i think i started asking for Kearse in the 6th or 7th

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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/09/10/mackensie-alexander-doesnt-need-elbow-surgery/

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ORIGINAL: drviking

Ramblings...

i can probably find some posts of mine from the draft calling for Harris, i was pretty happy when we got him as an UDFA, wanted to draft him

Good stuff Doc,

I pretty much agree on all.

Except I didn't even know who Harris was when we picked him up.

I'm curious, did you call for him in beginning of the draft or in rounds 6 or 7?

i didnt have him in the first round


i might have to look, maybe 4th or 5th


i think i started asking for Kearse in the 6th or 7th

Thanks

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ORIGINAL: drviking

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Pager

Couple of thoughts on the other posts.

We did what Bilichick does. Finally. They couldn't stop the run, we f****** ran it down their throats. Would 1-2 play-actions have helped extend a drive or two late in the game. Sure. But the game was over by mid way through the 3rd Quarter. Atlanta was warming up their back-up. It's a good thing we are pseudo-debating this (instead of "real issues"). Didn't think twice during or after the game about offensive play calling.

Elf has to be on a short leash. Garrett is tough. So is Hicks, Daniels, Clark, Cox, etc, etc, etc. Yes they were attacking him, and so will every other defensive coordinator worth a grain of salt. You can argue 2nd string all day, but Jones best year in the NFL dwarfs Elf's best year. I'm not saying pull him today, but Elf completely whiffed on too many plays not to be worried. Almost got Cousins killed on that fumble. OR you better have a scheme that protects him, which is tough with a rookie Center.

I would say we ran effectively enough. I wouldn't say we ran it down their f****** throats. The Vikings piled up 102 rushing yards on 5 explosive plays, which is quite impressive. We didn't really control the ball that well on the ground outside of that. The remaining 33 runs averaged 2.12 ypc. Even if you take out Cousins's sneak totals of 4 yards on 6 carries, you have 27 carries at an average of 2.47.

The defense and special teams combined to give the offense some short fields and the offense took advantage nicely and turned them into touch downs. When it came to the grind it out, control the ball eat the clock phase of the game, they were not all that effective running the ball.

pretty much anytime we wanted, we could have played action and killed them, they were selling out on the run, but we didnt need to


like i said previously, i would have preferred a few more reps to practice are pass protection, but understand why we didnt

The goal is to win the game. I don't give two flipety doos about how many yards we gained in any facet of the game. This reminds me of how enthralled many are/were of AD's rushing titles. THEY ARE MEANINGLESS.

One come a day there's going to be a parade down Washington Avenue and won't be for anything other than winning enough to get to the Super Bowl and then winning that.

You should and it's nothing at all like being enthralled with AD's rushing titles. I am talking about TEAM performance, not individual. The fact is that Atlanta was 29th in the NFL against the run. Our strategy once we got ahead was to run and chew the clock. The strategy worked because of the effectiveness of the defense. Not because of the effectiveness of the running game.

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The goal is to win the game. I don't give two flipety doos about how many yards we gained in any facet of the game.

Save for TE yardage, right? Cause even though we won, Rudolph has to go. Hope he's there for the parade...