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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/6/2020 11:04:56 PM   
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49ers are going to be a real test.

#2 offense in points, #4 in yards.
#8 defense in points, #2 in yards.

By comparison, the Saints:
#3 offense in points, #9 in yards.
#13 defense in points, #11 in yards.


I can't say I follow the Niners that closely, but it seems to me they have some explosive players who make big plays. Their defensive line is mostly first rounders. In some ways they are a lot like us, but they certainly have been more successful this season.


They have George Kittle at TE who is all-universe. Deebo Samuel at WR has incredible speed. Emmanuel Sanders at WR is good not great. RB Raheem Mostart is above-average to great.

Their defense is ridiculous good.

We won't play a better team until the Super Bowl and maybe not even then.

All that said, they are still beatable. Show up and do it.


Their DLine vs our OLine on the road is a major worry. This is the toughest matchup for us of any team left including the AFC. But Jimmy G's first playoff game, he's been skittish at times this season.

Sendejo could be an X-factor in these playoffs. Him playing in the slot gives us good run support and his physicality can matchup somewhat with Kittle. I worry about Deebo in space and Sanders is a crafty receiver the type Rhodes struggles with.

As for their D, obviously the DLine is a wrecking crew but the Saints put up 46 on them and Seattle was able to move the ball effectively in the 2nd half on them, as did the Rams.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/7/2020 6:21:01 AM   
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Well I stated that if we beat the Saints the season would be a success and I stand by that. Great job by the coaches and players yesterday! I'm super elated that we pulled it off. Cousins made big boy throws to lead us to victory as well which was truly awesome! Having said that how awesome would it be to go outdoors on grass and beat the niners? This is very similar to 87 is it not? We played the Saints, Niners, and fell to the Skins. Being totally honest I'm going to be disappointed if we don't at least play the Niners tough. I know they're a very good team and there would be no shame in losing this one especially with a great effort. It would be so awesome if we kept this thing rolling though! I feel like we showed something as a team that I haven't seen since 2017. Let's keep it rolling boys and girls!

I disagree. If you told me at the beginning of the season we'd win our wildcard playoff game and be done that wouldn't be considered a success.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/7/2020 6:31:05 AM   
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I don't get the scheduling for next weekend.

Last weekend they had both AFC games on Saturday and the NFC games on Sunday.

Now they have us playing on Saturday next weekend. We're the only team having to play on 6 days rest while the Texans get 8 as their game is on Sunday. Titans play in the same time slot as last weekend as do the Seahags so they both get 7 days rest.

Kind of a big deal that gets overlooked by most.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/7/2020 6:44:26 AM   
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Well I stated that if we beat the Saints the season would be a success and I stand by that. Great job by the coaches and players yesterday! I'm super elated that we pulled it off. Cousins made big boy throws to lead us to victory as well which was truly awesome! Having said that how awesome would it be to go outdoors on grass and beat the niners? This is very similar to 87 is it not? We played the Saints, Niners, and fell to the Skins. Being totally honest I'm going to be disappointed if we don't at least play the Niners tough. I know they're a very good team and there would be no shame in losing this one especially with a great effort. It would be so awesome if we kept this thing rolling though! I feel like we showed something as a team that I haven't seen since 2017. Let's keep it rolling boys and girls!

I disagree. If you told me at the beginning of the season we'd win our wildcard playoff game and be done that wouldn't be considered a success.

While I understand your point we went into the super dome and beat a 13-3 team that nobody gave us a chance against, myself included. Now can we keep it rolling? I think we have the pieces just gotta go out and execute. Great point on the scheduling btw!

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/7/2020 6:47:07 AM   
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Stefanski needs to be more unpredictable. His play calling in the 2nd half was run Cook on first and 2nd down then face a 3rd and long.

NO's made an adjustment at halftime and shut our running game down. mainly by bringing one of the deep S's down in the box which should have opened up more passing lanes and Stefanski didn't make them pay.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/7/2020 6:53:39 AM   
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Well I stated that if we beat the Saints the season would be a success and I stand by that. Great job by the coaches and players yesterday! I'm super elated that we pulled it off. Cousins made big boy throws to lead us to victory as well which was truly awesome! Having said that how awesome would it be to go outdoors on grass and beat the niners? This is very similar to 87 is it not? We played the Saints, Niners, and fell to the Skins. Being totally honest I'm going to be disappointed if we don't at least play the Niners tough. I know they're a very good team and there would be no shame in losing this one especially with a great effort. It would be so awesome if we kept this thing rolling though! I feel like we showed something as a team that I haven't seen since 2017. Let's keep it rolling boys and girls!

I disagree. If you told me at the beginning of the season we'd win our wildcard playoff game and be done that wouldn't be considered a success.

While I understand your point we went into the super dome and beat a 13-3 team that nobody gave us a chance against, myself included. Now can we keep it rolling? I think we have the pieces just gotta go out and execute. Great point on the scheduling btw!

No doubt this was a big victory. But I had higher hopes going in to the season as I'm sure most of you also did.

Be nice to see us bring it again this weekend. I think reaching the NFCCG was pretty much most of our expectations.

Thanks Richard on the scheduling comment. The more I think about it that's about as bush league as it gets by the NFL.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/7/2020 7:08:03 AM   
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Rudy got some air time on the Golic and Wingo show yesterday. He also got to put his plug in for his work with the Childrens Hospital at the end of the interview. Hopefully this gets him that NFL Man of the Year award finally.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/7/2020 7:09:04 AM   
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The scheduling thing is pretty bush league! All of a sudden we do both AFC and NFC wild card games on the same day? Since when? I'm not saying that they're out to get us but they should've known someone was going to get hosed out of that deal. Maybe we're missing something I dont know.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/7/2020 7:32:34 AM   
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The scheduling thing is pretty bush league! All of a sudden we do both AFC and NFC wild card games on the same day? Since when? I'm not saying that they're out to get us but they should've known someone was going to get hosed out of that deal. Maybe we're missing something I dont know.

Texans are the big winners here. They had a home game last weekend and now get an extra day for travel.

No wonder the 6 seed rarely makes the SB. Talk about getting crapped on. That's flat out piss poor scheduling on part of the NFL.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/7/2020 7:40:06 AM   
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Should have just kept it consistent and done both AFC divisional games Saturday and both NFC games sunday.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/7/2020 8:09:14 AM   
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The scheduling thing is pretty bush league! All of a sudden we do both AFC and NFC wild card games on the same day? Since when? I'm not saying that they're out to get us but they should've known someone was going to get hosed out of that deal. Maybe we're missing something I dont know.

Texans are the big winners here. They had a home game last weekend and now get an extra day for travel.

No wonder the 6 seed rarely makes the SB. Talk about getting crapped on. That's flat out piss poor scheduling on part of the NFL.

If they beat the 49ers, they'll have an extra day to prepare for GB/Sea. I agree that it would be better to have 7 days now.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/7/2020 8:29:25 AM   
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Should have just kept it consistent and done both AFC divisional games Saturday and both NFC games sunday.


That was the plan, but the NFL darlings the Pats stumbled into the WC. Maybe it turned out better we played Sunday @1:00 rather than the primetime Saturday game.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/7/2020 8:36:21 AM   
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Thielen at fullback position on this play. Talk about getting creative.

https://twitter.com/NickOlsonNFL/status/1214393538890420224?s=09

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/7/2020 8:38:43 AM   
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Fun fact: In 5 of the last 7 games, the player with the highest @PFF grade on the offense opposing the 49ers was the tight-end.

(Warren Ludford on Twitter)

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/7/2020 9:02:21 AM   
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Listen, the Saints have a case for offensive pass interference IF P.J. Williams is playing the ball

He’s not and thus the right call was made.

(Adam Patrick on Twitter)

One more view of the play by KSTP camera guy:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1214166887531208705


There is absolutely no case to be made for OPI P.J. Williams playing the ball or not, unless the offensive player pulling his arm out of the grasp of the defender is OPI. Pause at the :12 second mark of that twit, the defender clearly has grabbed Kyle's right arm, Kyle simply rips his arm out of the defenders grasp. There was a case to be made for DPI, that's it.


I entirely agree that there was no PI on that play. This is football. Both players are positioning themselves to make a play. Let the players play the game. But we all know another rule change will come out of this slowing down the game and ultimately changing the outcome of future games and that is very sad and pathetic.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/7/2020 9:45:53 AM   
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Listen, the Saints have a case for offensive pass interference IF P.J. Williams is playing the ball

He’s not and thus the right call was made.

(Adam Patrick on Twitter)

One more view of the play by KSTP camera guy:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1214166887531208705


There is absolutely no case to be made for OPI P.J. Williams playing the ball or not, unless the offensive player pulling his arm out of the grasp of the defender is OPI. Pause at the :12 second mark of that twit, the defender clearly has grabbed Kyle's right arm, Kyle simply rips his arm out of the defenders grasp. There was a case to be made for DPI, that's it.


I entirely agree that there was no PI on that play. This is football. Both players are positioning themselves to make a play. Let the players play the game. But we all know another rule change will come out of this slowing down the game and ultimately changing the outcome of future games and that is very sad and pathetic.

I think they'll change it to where both teams get a possession. At which point you might as well play out another quarter. It'll be stupid.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/7/2020 9:54:54 AM   
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Rudolph was on Sirius NFL radio yesterday morning. They asked him when he knew the ball was coming to him. He said as soon as the safeties crept up into the box he knew it was fade to his side because in the huddle they decided that was the play if the Saints went to cover 0. This is a textbook example of a successful running game setting up the pass - both in the deep pass to Thielen a few plays earlier to get them to first-and-goal and in drawing the cover 0 to enable the one-on-one matchup in the corner of the endzone. When Cook has nearly 100 yards rushing and two TDs it forces the opposing team to make some desperate decisions. Nicely done Vikings.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/7/2020 9:58:31 AM   
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Stefanski needs to be more unpredictable. His play calling in the 2nd half was run Cook on first and 2nd down then face a 3rd and long.

NO's made an adjustment at halftime and shut our running game down. mainly by bringing one of the deep S's down in the box which should have opened up more passing lanes and Stefanski didn't make them pay.



Zimmer was asked about Stefanski's growth as a play caller at crunch time..."um well, there is a lot of communication going on with everybody..um..through that whole group. Kevin's done a good job..but there is a lot of communication going on with Rick and um Gary as well"


That comment didn't make the presser notes.

Makes sense now that I think about it, but I didn't know that Rick Dennison (run game OC/OL coach) had that much influence on the play calling.

Rick Dennison brings a wealth of offensive experience to the Vikings in 2019 as the club’s Offensive Line coach. Entering his 25th season of coaching in the NFL, Dennison has been part of 12 playoff appearances, 5 division titles, and 3 Super Bowl victories- XXXII, XXXIII and 50.

Dennison has been a part of winning programs, posting a .500 or better record in 19 of his 24 NFL seasons and has been part of 11 seasons of 10+ wins under his belt in the NFL. His 17 seasons in Denver resulted in 3 Super Bowl titles, 8 playoff appearances, 4 AFC West titles and 8 seasons of 10+ wins while only suffering 2 losing seasons.

Dennison has coached 18 different Pro Bowl players across 7 different positions, including 6 offensive linemen. Of those 6, 5 made their 1st Pro Bowl appearance under him, while 3 made all their trips with him as their coach. In Dennison’s time as a OL coach and offensive coordinator his rushing offenses have averaged 2,038 yards a season (127.4 yards per game) and 4.4 yards per carry while producing 14.3 touchdowns a season.

Prior to joining the Vikings, Dennison served on the staffs of the New York Jets (2018), Buffalo Bills (2017), Baltimore Ravens (2014), Houston Texans (2010-13) and two stints with the Denver Broncos (1995-2009, ‘15-16) in a variety of roles.

In 2018, Dennison’s lone season as the Jets OL coach/run game coordinator, the group allowed 10 fewer sacks (37) than it did in 2017, protecting QB Sam Darnold as he set team rookie records for passing TDs (17) and passing yards per game (220.4)

In 2017 Dennison was offensive coordinator for the Bills, helping a Buffalo offense that ranked 6th in rushing as both running back LeSean McCoy and guard Richie Incognito received Pro Bowl recognition.

In his return to Denver as the offensive coordinator in 2015, Dennison oversaw the Broncos offense as the team navigated a difficult schedule to finish with a 12-4 record, the AFC West Division title and the No. 1 seed in the AFC. Despite mid-season injury to Hall of Fame QB Peyton Manning, Dennison helped the Broncos go 5-2 in QB Brock Osweiler’s 1st 7 career starts before Manning returned in Week 17. The offense went on to commit just 3 turnovers during the postseason to help secure a world championship in Super Bowl 50 over Carolina.

Following Manning’s retirement after the 2015 season Dennison coached 1st-year starting QB Trevor Siemian, a 7th-round draft pick (#250) in the 2015 NFL Draft. IN 14 games Siemian went 289-for-486 for 3,401 yards, 18 TDs and 10 INTs.

In Dennison’s lone season with Baltimore (2014) and only season coaching QBs, Joe Flacco established career highs in passing yards (3,986) and TD passes (27) and posted a combined 8 games with a passer rating above 100.0 while being sacked just 19 times—29 fewer than the previous year.

In Houston (2010-13), Texans running backs produced an NFL-best 29 individual 100-yard rushing performances, including 24 by Arian Foster, who was named an AP All-Pro selection 3 times in his 4 years under Dennison. During the 2012 season, 7 of Houston’s 11 starters on offense were Pro Bowlers.

His first stint as an NFL offensive coordinator came with the Broncos (2006-08). Their offense ranked 7th in the NFL (350.5 yards per game) as Dennison oversaw 1 of just 2 units in the league to rank in the top 10 in both passing and rushing. He previously worked as the team’s offensive line coach (2001-05) and special teams coach (1997-2000). From 2001-05 Denver led the NFL in rushing in that 5-season span, averaging 145.6 yards per game on the ground and 2,328 yards per season on average.

During his tenure as special teams coach in Denver the club won consecutive Super Bowls, topping Green Bay for the Super Bowl XXXII title and following it up in John Elway’s final game with a Super Bowl XXXIII victory over Atlanta.

Dennison originally joined the Denver staff in 1995 after spending the previous 3 years coaching at the high school level for Suffield (Conn.) Academy. He worked for 2 years in Denver as an offensive assistant (1995-96) before being promoted to special teams coach the next season.

Undrafted out of Colorado State University, Dennison played 9 seasons at LB for the Broncos, appearing in 128 games (52 starts) and totaling 514 tackles, 6.5 sacks, 4 interceptions, 6 forced fumbles and 3 fumble recoveries. He participated in 3 Super Bowls as a player and was the team’s recipient of the Ed Block Courage Award in 1989.

At CSU, he earned 3 varsity letters and was named a 2nd-team Academic All-American as a senior. Dennison earned 2 degrees in civil engineering from CSU, first his bachelor’s in 1979 and later his master’s degree in 1982.

A native of Kalispell, Montana, Dennison attended Rocky Mountain High School in Fort Collins, CO, lettering in football, basketball and baseball.

Dennison and his wife, Shannon, have 3 sons, Joseph, Steven and Trey, and twin daughters, Abrynn and Allie. His son, Joseph, is married to Hayley and the couple has 2 sons, Brodrick John Dennison, Ezeckiel George Dennison and expecting a 3rd.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/7/2020 10:07:05 AM   
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More from Ludford:

Guessing the #Vikings extend Cousins, convert 2020 salary to signing bonus, probably let Rhodes and Reiff go, unless substantial salary reduction, ask Linval to take less too. Extending Harris, Waynes, Alexander, Bailey, Colquitt, Wilson, Ham, and hopefully Griffen.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/7/2020 10:35:11 AM   
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Panthers not hiring stefanski

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/7/2020 11:02:15 AM   
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Giants out.


Does he want to go to the Browns?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/7/2020 11:13:40 AM   
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Giants out.


Does he want to go to the Browns?



If I'm Stef no way I go that that choas of an organization for my first head coaching job. True most teams looking for a new head coach will have issues but the only other org as dysfunctional has to be Washington.

I'm hoping he doesn't. I think he'll grow in playcalling and two years of continuity, player development, and draft/investment will do wonders for our top 10 offense.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/7/2020 11:22:43 AM   
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Giants out.



How do you hire the Patriots WR coach as your HC?
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/7/2020 11:26:06 AM   
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The scheduling thing is pretty bush league! All of a sudden we do both AFC and NFC wild card games on the same day? Since when? I'm not saying that they're out to get us but they should've known someone was going to get hosed out of that deal. Maybe we're missing something I dont know.

Texans are the big winners here. They had a home game last weekend and now get an extra day for travel.

No wonder the 6 seed rarely makes the SB. Talk about getting crapped on. That's flat out piss poor scheduling on part of the NFL.


They're the 6 seed. Of course they get crapped on.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/7/2020 11:37:33 AM   
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Giants out.



How do you hire the Patriots WR coach as your HC?

Their worst unit by far even though they've put serious effort into that group. Giants are a dumpster fire!
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