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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/7/2019 4:59:32 PM

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I’ve rewatched the game and here are my take aways:

• the Darius slayton touchdown was more on Harris than Rhodes. Harris bit hard on a crossers that was doubled.

• Vikes need to replace the left side of the line before they even think about drafting a QB

(Deshawn Vaughan on Twitter)

The Slayton TD was on Rhodes all the way. He failed to jam Slayton and then got turned around on not that great of a move. Harris was a bit late on the double team, but Rhodes got beaten badly right off the snap.

We all saw Zimmer chewing out Rhodes. It was a perfect pass and the receiver was fast. I don't pretend to know whose fault it was for a fact, but I thought it was on Rhodes.

Agreed. Hard to say what assignments were, Harris was turning to provide help to his left (twin right) immediately after the snap. Based on Zimmer's reaction, I also thought it was Rhodes.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/7/2019 5:09:39 PM

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The President likes the Vikings. Obama liked the Bears. Hmmmm. Just saying. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/10/07/kirk-cousins-gets-a-congratulatory-phone-call-from-the-president/

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/7/2019 5:43:50 PM

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PFF:

MINNESOTA VIKINGS

Adam Thielen was the best player on the field in this game and it wasn’t particularly close.

Really? REALLY? I thought PFF actually watched the games.

You were probably too busy bitching about the fans to pay close attention to the game.

Still sore?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/7/2019 5:58:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

PFF:

MINNESOTA VIKINGS

Adam Thielen was the best player on the field in this game and it wasn’t particularly close.

Really? REALLY? I thought PFF actually watched the games.

You were probably too busy bitching about the fans to pay close attention to the game.

Still sore?

Not sore at all. That would be you. I was in the Game Day thread cheering the team on all game long.

I'm just calling it like it is. You used to be a kind of funny, passive-aggressive dick. Now you're no longer funny...or passive.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/7/2019 6:40:41 PM

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I’ve rewatched the game and here are my take aways:

• the Darius slayton touchdown was more on Harris than Rhodes. Harris bit hard on a crossers that was doubled.

• Vikes need to replace the left side of the line before they even think about drafting a QB

(Deshawn Vaughan on Twitter)

They need to draft a QB next spring. Guy needs to be ready to take over in 2021.

Absolutely. I actually have no problem going with Cousins through his contract. But you MUST draft his successor this spring.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/7/2019 6:41:09 PM

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That might just end it..
Pat Robinson and now Drump
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/7/2019 6:47:25 PM

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

PFF:

MINNESOTA VIKINGS

Adam Thielen was the best player on the field in this game and it wasn’t particularly close.

Really? REALLY? I thought PFF actually watched the games.

You were probably too busy bitching about the fans to pay close attention to the game.

Still sore?

Not sore at all. That would be you. I was in the Game Day thread cheering the team on all game long.

I'm just calling it like it is. You used to be a kind of funny, passive-aggressive dick. Now you're no longer funny...or passive.

You, on the other hand, haven't changed a bit.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/7/2019 6:47:26 PM

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/7/2019 8:10:48 PM

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The President likes the Vikings. Obama liked the Bears. Hmmmm. Just saying. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/10/07/kirk-cousins-gets-a-congratulatory-phone-call-from-the-president/

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/7/2019 8:30:10 PM

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The President likes the Vikings. Obama liked the Bears. Hmmmm. Just saying. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/10/07/kirk-cousins-gets-a-congratulatory-phone-call-from-the-president/

Seems to work pretty well for the Patriots

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/7/2019 11:24:26 PM

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In an inevitable move coming we must replace our HC....

on that wish list, maybe at top should be...

Chiefs OC Eric Bieniemy

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/7/2019 11:47:03 PM

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In an inevitable move coming we must replace our HC....

on that wish list, maybe at top should be...

Chiefs OC Eric Bieniemy

Because we did so well the last time we hired Andy Reid's OC?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/7/2019 11:49:28 PM

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PFF:

MINNESOTA VIKINGS

Adam Thielen was the best player on the field in this game and it wasn’t particularly close.

Really? REALLY? I thought PFF actually watched the games.

Thielen was very good, but Cook, Barr, Hunter, and Bailey could make a case they were better.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/7/2019 11:51:45 PM

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Cook was the best player on the field even with the 2 fumbles.

I would agree. PFF is clueless.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/8/2019 12:11:34 AM

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Top #Vikings grades from MIN@NYG:

Offense
• Thielen: 92.4
• Cousins: 84.7
• Elflein: 72.2
• Reiff: 71.1
• Diggs: 68.7

Defense:
• Barr: 90.9
• Kendricks: 90.4
• Odenigbo: 83.0
• Hunter: 75.8
• Griffen: 73.6

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OdinBigo, there's a young guy to be excited about.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/8/2019 6:50:35 AM

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Cook was the best player on the field even with the 2 fumbles.

I would agree. PFF is clueless.

PFF must really dock players hard on fumbles.

220 yards from scrimmage is down right studly.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/8/2019 6:52:23 AM

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PA's partner was praising Kline multiple times. Yet Kline's PFF grade wasn't very good either.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/8/2019 7:33:35 AM

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Cook was the best player on the field even with the 2 fumbles.

I would agree. PFF is clueless.

PFF must really dock players hard on fumbles.

220 yards from scrimmage is down right studly.

It's more the way he did it you made some moves ran over some guys made a lot of those yards on his own

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/8/2019 8:11:28 AM

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The President likes the Vikings. Obama liked the Bears. Hmmmm. Just saying. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/10/07/kirk-cousins-gets-a-congratulatory-phone-call-from-the-president/

Fuq.. that’s a deal breaker... 52 years shot to hell.. if AHIC likes the VIKINGS, I have to bail...

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/8/2019 8:26:45 AM

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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In an inevitable move coming we must replace our HC....

on that wish list, maybe at top should be...

Chiefs OC Eric Bieniemy

Because we did so well the last time we hired Andy Reid's OC?

NEVER hire a Coordinator for a HC who calls all the plays.

That was the mistake with Childress.

Let's not relive that stupidity.

You are absolutely right David.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/8/2019 8:27:24 AM

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The President likes the Vikings. Obama liked the Bears. Hmmmm. Just saying. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/10/07/kirk-cousins-gets-a-congratulatory-phone-call-from-the-president/

Fuq.. that’s a deal breaker... 52 years shot to hell.. if AHIC likes the VIKINGS, I have to bail...

Oh, come on now. Donald Trump has great and unmatched wisdom....just ask him.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/8/2019 8:34:30 AM

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PA's partner was praising Kline multiple times. Yet Kline's PFF grade wasn't very good either.

My own Kline grade was pretty low based on pass blocking. He gets pushed into Cousin's lap way too easily. It's really a stark contrast when the Vikings roll out on the play fake vs. using a straight drop. Cousins doesn't have the quickest drop back and the middle of the line does not hold off the inside pass rush for very long.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/8/2019 8:53:17 AM

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We expected Rudolph's role in the passing game to decrease with a shift to a more run-oriented attack, but where it's at right now is somewhat staggering. -- Courtney Cronin

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27788319/week-6-nfl-power-rankings-1-32-poll-plus-every-team-top-fantasy-surprise

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/8/2019 9:17:49 AM

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"...this game plan had a lot more “Kubiak” plays, as far as I could tell, compared to “Stefanski” plays, particularly in the passing game. The screens and rollouts with multiple crossing routes are vintage Kubiak, and the Vikings ran a steady diet of them the entire game."

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/10/7/20901817/minnesota-vikings-bounce-back-beat-new-york-giants-game-notes

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/8/2019 9:18:27 AM

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Cook was the best player on the field even with the 2 fumbles.

I would agree. PFF is clueless.

PFF must really dock players hard on fumbles.

220 yards from scrimmage is down right studly.

A fumble near the goal-line is the worst possible event in an 'expected-points / expected value' type of analysis.

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