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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/27/2020 4:43:35 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/27/2020 5:24:19 PM   
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What did the doctors say about being immune after having Covid? Anything definite, one way or the other.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/27/2020 6:11:19 PM   
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Greed is the only driver for deliberately putting players, coaches and their families at risk of a potentially life threatening or permanently life altering disease, that has no bona-fide cure or vaccine or realistic method of control or containment ATM.

Shame on the money grubbing, on both sides.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/27/2020 6:27:57 PM   
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Bruce,

What did the doctors say about being immune after having Covid? Anything definite, one way or the other.


Two different doctors and got two answers. The hospital doctor said I need to get tested for the antibodies to be sure. My personal doctor said that as sick as I was there is no doubt that I have them.

My hospital doctor also mentioned something about possible new strains developing. He just shrugged his shoulders saying that there's a lot that we don't know. It's such a new disease.

Recently I saw a news report saying that the antibodies may not last that long. (How long it didn't say. Maybe a few months.)

So when there is a vaccine available I will take it. The Pfizer drug in testing supposedly generates three times the antibodies as someone who has had the disease. And in the meantime I am taking precautions like everyone else. My doctor specifically told me that it's wise to be careful. I actually was careful when I got the disease. I washed my hands frequently and wore a mask in public. Most likely I got it at work. Three other employees got it including my boss. Someone told me that he got Covid, but still went to work. The other two workers were the utility workers who pulled the buses out of the garage (using the steering wheel) and would give me the bus. So even though I would personally sanitize my steering wheel twice during my route I began the day with that. With all of that said I could have contracted it while shopping. Maybe, but I think not likely.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/27/2020 6:30:01 PM   
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Justin Jefferson among four Viking rookies on the COVID reserve list. Either tested positive or was in close contact with someone who was positive.



Hopefully he's at the tail end, and we get two negative tests in the next few days.

Yeah. We really can't afford him missing time.


There were three other Viking rookies who also are on the Covid protocol with Jefferson. None of them were higher draft picks like Jefferson. I'll try to find it.

This article has the other three players.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/7/27/21340861/minnesota-vikings-place-four-rookies-covid-19-reserve-list-justin-jefferson

I was wondering if that means the Vkings only have to cut three players to get down to 80 I think so.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/27/2020 6:30:09 PM   
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I don’t see NFL or College Football happening, at all.

Greed is the only driver for deliberately putting players, coaches and their families at risk of a potentially life threatening or permanently life altering disease, that has no bona-fide cure or vaccine or realistic method of control or containment ATM.

Shame on the money grubbing, on both sides.


You say that like money grubbing is a bad thing.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/27/2020 6:34:55 PM   
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I don’t see NFL or College Football happening, at all.

Greed is the only driver for deliberately putting players, coaches and their families at risk of a potentially life threatening or permanently life altering disease, that has no bona-fide cure or vaccine or realistic method of control or containment ATM.

Shame on the money grubbing, on both sides.


You say that like money grubbing is a bad thing.

If I could get a seat at the trough, I might change my tune.. but ya know us old white retirees should just hurry up and die and thereby reduce the excess population of old retired white guys...

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/27/2020 6:56:15 PM   
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I don’t see NFL or College Football happening, at all.

Greed is the only driver for deliberately putting players, coaches and their families at risk of a potentially life threatening or permanently life altering disease, that has no bona-fide cure or vaccine or realistic method of control or containment ATM.

Shame on the money grubbing, on both sides.


You say that like money grubbing is a bad thing.

If I could get a seat at the trough, I might change my tune.. but ya know us old white retirees should just hurry up and die and thereby reduce the excess population of old retired white guys...


I believe that life is precious. For me, it's like I got a second chance to live out my life. (recovering from Covid) I want be responsible for the blessing.

And then on another topic, I got this response from Matthew Coller (formerly of AM 1500) about Jefferson's situation.

We'll see. We don't know if he'll be out of anything or not since the league doesn't have to report anything about his positive test or contact tracing. We may or may not hear from him at some point...all up in the air


Everything is so fluid. We look to get news each new day, but I guess we should take it with a grain of salt because it often gets amended the following day.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/27/2020 7:01:06 PM   
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I don’t see NFL or College Football happening, at all.

Greed is the only driver for deliberately putting players, coaches and their families at risk of a potentially life threatening or permanently life altering disease, that has no bona-fide cure or vaccine or realistic method of control or containment ATM.

Shame on the money grubbing, on both sides.


You say that like money grubbing is a bad thing.

If I could get a seat at the trough, I might change my tune.. but ya know us old white retirees should just hurry up and die and thereby reduce the excess population of old retired white guys...

Thin the herd a little bit. Probably what nature is doing any way, huh? Eight billion people - are you F nuts? I'll show you!
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/27/2020 8:19:18 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/27/2020 8:50:20 PM   
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What do you guys think of Sea giving up 2 first rd picks for Jamaal Adams?

About right.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/27/2020 9:07:35 PM   
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What do you guys think of Sea giving up 2 first rd picks for Jamaal Adams?


If they're willing to meet his contract demands, its a very good move.

I think there is a very good chance that 2021 draft picks will not have nearly the value that they otherwise do.

I mean if there is no NCAA season this year, the draft becomes way more of a crapshoot. You're going to be just as likely to draft 3rd round value with a late 1st round pick than actual 1st round value.

So the bigger prize is probably the 2022 pick, and you absolutely move that for a 24 year-old superstar.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/27/2020 9:43:42 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/27/2020 11:18:12 PM   
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What do you guys think of Sea giving up 2 first rd picks for Jamaal Adams?


If they're willing to meet his contract demands, its a very good move.

I think there is a very good chance that 2021 draft picks will not have nearly the value that they otherwise do.

I mean if there is no NCAA season this year, the draft becomes way more of a crapshoot. You're going to be just as likely to draft 3rd round value with a late 1st round pick than actual 1st round value.

So the bigger prize is probably the 2022 pick, and you absolutely move that for a 24 year-old superstar.



The flip side - if cap goes down, draft picks become more valuable.

2 Firsts were a lot to give up imo without getting a deal in place before the trade. Adams has a lot of leverage.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/28/2020 5:45:00 AM   
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Tomorrow we see if Cook reports. However if he is even one minute late reporting it is my understanding that he loses his free agent rights next year. Is this correct or am I missing something?


I don't think so, but I'm not on top of this issue.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/28/2020 7:17:02 AM   
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What do you guys think of Sea giving up 2 first rd picks for Jamaal Adams?


If they're willing to meet his contract demands, its a very good move.

I think there is a very good chance that 2021 draft picks will not have nearly the value that they otherwise do.

I mean if there is no NCAA season this year, the draft becomes way more of a crapshoot. You're going to be just as likely to draft 3rd round value with a late 1st round pick than actual 1st round value.

So the bigger prize is probably the 2022 pick, and you absolutely move that for a 24 year-old superstar.



The flip side - if cap goes down, draft picks become more valuable.

2 Firsts were a lot to give up imo without getting a deal in place before the trade. Adams has a lot of leverage.

I haven't ever seen Adams play. But his pressure numbers and tackles he is definitely extremely effective around the LOS.

But to me 2 first round picks is a lot of draft stock esp when his contract demands will probably be north of 15ml per.

I compare this move to Chi for Mack. Not having a first rd pick for the last 2 seasons really hurt them although I think they gave up even more picks than Sea did.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/28/2020 8:39:07 AM   
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Not a good look

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/28/2020 8:41:06 AM   
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Tomorrow we see if Cook reports. However if he is even one minute late reporting it is my understanding that he loses his free agent rights next year. Is this correct or am I missing something?


I don't think so, but I'm not on top of this issue.

Kind of doubt it is that cut and dry

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/28/2020 8:43:41 AM   
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What do you guys think of Sea giving up 2 first rd picks for Jamaal Adams?


If they're willing to meet his contract demands, its a very good move.

I think there is a very good chance that 2021 draft picks will not have nearly the value that they otherwise do.

I mean if there is no NCAA season this year, the draft becomes way more of a crapshoot. You're going to be just as likely to draft 3rd round value with a late 1st round pick than actual 1st round value.

So the bigger prize is probably the 2022 pick, and you absolutely move that for a 24 year-old superstar.



The flip side - if cap goes down, draft picks become more valuable.

2 Firsts were a lot to give up imo without getting a deal in place before the trade. Adams has a lot of leverage.

I haven't ever seen Adams play. But his pressure numbers and tackles he is definitely extremely effective around the LOS.

But to me 2 first round picks is a lot of draft stock esp when his contract demands will probably be north of 15ml per.

I compare this move to Chi for Mack. Not having a first rd pick for the last 2 seasons really hurt them although I think they gave up even more picks than Sea did.


I think Seattle gave up slightly more.

Mack was a holdout so that affects comparisons.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/28/2020 8:45:17 AM   
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He's not on Wiki

Just curious if he's an at risk type age. I'd guess he can't be over 50

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/28/2020 9:05:37 AM   
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Anyone know how old Sugarman is?

He's not on Wiki

Just curious if he's an at risk type age. I'd guess he can't be over 50

Don't know his age, but he always appears to be living here on Earth whenever I see him. That would put him in the at-risk group. My guess is he's been around other humans now and then, which also exposes them.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/28/2020 9:52:59 AM   
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Anyone know how old Sugarman is?

He's not on Wiki

Just curious if he's an at risk type age. I'd guess he can't be over 50

Don't know his age, but he always appears to be living here on Earth whenever I see him. That would put him in the at-risk group. My guess is he's been around other humans now and then, which also exposes them.



Only info I can find says he was born “in the 70’s and is in his 40’s.....”
So he would be 49 if born in 1971, give or take..

So he could be as old as 49 or as young as 41..
Given he has been in the league 24 years in guessing 45 - 48..

Ballpark.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/28/2020 10:43:51 AM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/28/2020 10:53:17 AM   
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Anyone know how old Sugarman is?

He's not on Wiki

Just curious if he's an at risk type age. I'd guess he can't be over 50

Don't know his age, but he always appears to be living here on Earth whenever I see him. That would put him in the at-risk group. My guess is he's been around other humans now and then, which also exposes them.



Only info I can find says he was born “in the 70’s and is in his 40’s.....”
So he would be 49 if born in 1971, give or take..

So he could be as old as 49 or as young as 41..
Given he has been in the league 24 years in guessing 45 - 48..

Ballpark.


Yeah I would say 49-52 since he graduated with his masters around 93.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/28/2020 10:55:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		It looks like Seattle paid more than the Steelers did for Minkah. Minkah was heading into the second year of his rookie contract, right? Vs Adams heading into the 4th year?

Steelers gave 1st, 5th, and 6th. Got back 4th and 7th.

Seattle gave two 1sts, 3rd AND a player (safety McDougald - no idea how good he is). and got back 4th.


Plus a record setting contract? Seattle got fleeced. And I'm glad - look at the bears drafts since the Mack trade. Looks like Seattle gave up more than Chicago for Mack. And according to Zimmer - safety isn't that important compared to DE. Seattle had better be hitting on lower draft picks or they are in trouble.

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