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Free Agency 2021 - 2/11/2021 10:52:38 AM   
Mark Anderson

 

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 2/11/2021 12:54:38 PM   
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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 2/11/2021 1:16:33 PM   
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these are some guards on teams that are stretched cap-wise - along with their 2021 salaries...should we trade a 3rd/4th/5th for one, or more....

saints
andrus peat $9m

eagles
brandon brooks $10.4
isaac seumalo $4

falcons
james carpenter $4m

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 2/11/2021 1:26:08 PM   
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these are some guards on teams that are stretched cap-wise - along with their 2021 salaries...should we trade a 3rd/4th/5th for one, or more....

saints
andrus peat $9m

eagles
brandon brooks $10.4
isaac seumalo $4

falcons
james carpenter $4m

Peat is overrated.
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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 2/11/2021 1:52:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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these are some guards on teams that are stretched cap-wise - along with their 2021 salaries...should we trade a 3rd/4th/5th for one, or more....

saints
andrus peat $9m

eagles
brandon brooks $10.4
isaac seumalo $4

falcons
james carpenter $4m

Peat is overrated.

At this point I'd take overrated in light of our guards.

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 2/11/2021 9:18:55 PM   
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Status: online 		The way the landscape is looking a lot of teams are going to have to purge salaries.

Might be numerous one year deals with quality players hoping things bounce back in 2022. Sadly i don't think we will be a player in this free for all.

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 2/12/2021 8:40:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		the Saints just released Nick Easton, who started at LG for the Vikings in 2017.

His stats in 12 games:

- 0 sacks
- 3 hits
- 12 total pressures

Vikings should explore bringing him back home. He would be cheap and a huge upgrade over Dozier

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 2/14/2021 8:12:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		#Vikings who have base salary guarantees triggering on March 19th:

Kirk Cousins ($35M 2022 base)
Adam Thielen ($9.1M)
Anthony Barr ($7.1M)
Riley Reiff ($5M roster bonus)
Danielle Hunter ($3.3M)
Britton Colquitt ($1.8M)
Dan Bailey ($1.8M)
Dalvin Cook ($1.5M)
CJ Ham ($1.1M)

(Sean Borman on Twitter)

When does free agency begin? After March 19th? Regardless, important personnel decisions are to be made in the next few weeks. Just checked. Free agency begins interestingly just before- at 4 PM on March 17th.

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 2/14/2021 10:17:48 PM   
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https://vikingsterritory.com/2021/general-news/geno-atkins-to-minnesota-picks-up-steam

< Message edited by Bruce Johnson -- 2/14/2021 10:19:22 PM >

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 2/15/2021 8:06:38 AM   
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How would you all like Geno Atkins to come to Minnesota?

https://vikingsterritory.com/2021/general-news/geno-atkins-to-minnesota-picks-up-steam

He better be cheap. Not much production last year.

Get him and still draft Barmore.
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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 2/15/2021 9:42:04 AM   
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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 2/15/2021 10:19:39 AM   
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How would you all like Geno Atkins to come to Minnesota?

https://vikingsterritory.com/2021/general-news/geno-atkins-to-minnesota-picks-up-steam

Atkins' better days are behind him. Pass on that.

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 2/15/2021 10:37:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

How would you all like Geno Atkins to come to Minnesota?

https://vikingsterritory.com/2021/general-news/geno-atkins-to-minnesota-picks-up-steam

Atkins' better days are behind him. Pass on that.

Agreed. He turns 33 next month and he is coming off shoulder surgery. Old and injured is not good for a 3T. It would be one thing if he was a big fat NT who primary roll is to clog up the line. Go young.

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 2/15/2021 10:54:29 AM   
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Status: online 		Atkins played in 9 games last season, didn't start, only played 119 defensive snaps and logged just 1 tackle.

Torn shoulder labrum the prior season. A 3T really needs to be good upper body wise using hands and arms. Atkins might be cooked.

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 2/15/2021 3:34:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

the Saints just released Nick Easton, who started at LG for the Vikings in 2017.

His stats in 12 games:

- 0 sacks
- 3 hits
- 12 total pressures

Vikings should explore bringing him back home. He would be cheap and a huge upgrade over Dozier

Tanishka on Twitter



Let's be clear on this.

I am just about 50, 5'6" and weigh 220 lbs....and I would be an upgrade over Dozier.

I would be ok bringing Easton back.

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 2/15/2021 3:59:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		How old was Pat Williams when we picked him up?

Edit:. Just checked. He was 32 going on 33.

I agree we would need a good medical evaluation.

< Message edited by Bruce Johnson -- 2/15/2021 4:03:22 PM >

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 2/15/2021 4:05:46 PM   
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How old was Pat Williams when we picked him up?

Edit:. Just checked. He was 32 going on 33.

I agree we would need a good medical evaluation.

Fat Pat was a line clogging, gap plugging nose tackle, not a 3T who is expected to generate inside pass rush.

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 2/15/2021 4:09:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

the Saints just released Nick Easton, who started at LG for the Vikings in 2017.

His stats in 12 games:

- 0 sacks
- 3 hits
- 12 total pressures

Vikings should explore bringing him back home. He would be cheap and a huge upgrade over Dozier

Tanishka on Twitter



Let's be clear on this.

I am just about 50, 5'6" and weigh 220 lbs....and I would be an upgrade over Dozier.

I would be ok bringing Easton back.



We used to tease a co-worker about being center at 5'11" for the TWolves 20 years ago when there was only KG.....

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 2/16/2021 3:45:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

How old was Pat Williams when we picked him up?

Edit:. Just checked. He was 32 going on 33.

I agree we would need a good medical evaluation.

Fat Pat was a line clogging, gap plugging nose tackle, not a 3T who is expected to generate inside pass rush.


Good point. I just checked about the other half of the Williams Wall, Kevin Williams. His last year with the Vikings he was 33. He did go on to play two more years. I don't know at what level he played at the end of his career.

I do often think and sometimes say that football is a young man's game. If there is a position on defense where a player could do well into the 30's, I believe it would be defensive tackle. We had Newman play until he was receiving social security payments, though. He was special in that regard.

When I think about it, Eller and Marshall had long careers. I don't remember clearly what level of play they finished their career. Just checking, Eller played until he was 37. Wow. Marshall played until he was 42. Double wow. He was something else. So defensive ends can play a long time, too. It's got to be rare, though. They have to be special.

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 2/16/2021 5:18:37 AM   
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"Is it too early to start my "Keep Todd Davis in Minnesota" campaign?

for real though, he brings a few vital things...
-a LB3 that is good vs the run
-not a huge liability in coverage
-he's the same age as Barr & EK
-likely isn't going to break the bank
-his drip is exquisite"

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 2/16/2021 8:50:24 AM   
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https://www.facebook.com/63911139/posts/10104565459959080/

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 2/16/2021 9:52:06 AM   
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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 2/16/2021 11:12:33 AM   
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The Carolina Panthers are releasing two-time Pro-Bowl defensive tackle Kawann Short, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter.

Short, the Panthers' best defensive player, has played in a combined five games over the past two seasons, as his 2019 and 2020 campaigns were cut short by season-ending shoulder surgeries.

He was heading into the final year of a five-year, $80 million contract he signed in 2017 after having 23.5 sacks during a three-year span. He has since had only three sacks, all in 2018, when he started 14 games.

Short was set to count $20.8 million against this year's cap, but by releasing him the Panthers can save $14.5 million.
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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 2/16/2021 11:21:48 AM   
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If healthy, a potential fit:

The Carolina Panthers are releasing two-time Pro-Bowl defensive tackle Kawann Short, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter.

Short, the Panthers' best defensive player, has played in a combined five games over the past two seasons, as his 2019 and 2020 campaigns were cut short by season-ending shoulder surgeries.

He was heading into the final year of a five-year, $80 million contract he signed in 2017 after having 23.5 sacks during a three-year span. He has since had only three sacks, all in 2018, when he started 14 games.

Short was set to count $20.8 million against this year's cap, but by releasing him the Panthers can save $14.5 million.

By the sound of things that's a might big if.

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 2/16/2021 12:53:15 PM   
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free agent guards and their 2020 salaries....


Lane Taylor $5.5m
Nick Easton $5.7m
JR Sweezy $4.5m
John Miller $4m
Austin Blythe
Elijah Wilkinson
Brian Winters

Jon Feliciano $8.3m (spotrac value in 2021)

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