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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 8/12/2020 11:17:42 AM   
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Never called him worthless, but thanks for playing.

More or less.

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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 8/12/2020 11:18:33 AM   
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Never called him worthless, but thanks for playing.

More or less.

Nope, not even close.

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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 8/12/2020 11:24:41 AM   
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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 8/12/2020 11:25:33 AM   
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Never called him worthless, but thanks for playing.

More or less.

Nope, not even close.

double nm

< Message edited by Tom Sykes -- 8/12/2020 11:28:40 AM >
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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 8/12/2020 11:26:40 AM   
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Never called him worthless, but thanks for playing.

More or less.

Nope, not even close.

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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 8/12/2020 11:26:41 AM   
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I do now, but why would I? I hate politicians and only want the 2 parties destroyed. As soon as I hear Republican or Democrat I already know what that person is.

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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 8/12/2020 11:27:52 AM   
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Never called him worthless, but thanks for playing.

More or less.

Nope, not even close.

She said something about his record on busing rights 20 years ago – the worthless part was about Dillon Mitchell.


Good one. Touche. LMAO.

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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 8/12/2020 11:30:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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The biggest problem besides the receding polar ice caps. Is that the plankton in the ocean is disappearing at an alarming rate.

5 REASONS TO THANK PLANKTON THAT YOU’RE ALIVE TODAY.

1. Plankton make up 95 per cent of ocean life
2. They form the base of aquatic food webs
3. They generate half of the atmosphere’s oxygen
4. They help absorb carbon emissions
5. But our increasing emissions are harming them

Shhhhhhhhh. Don't throw reality at the boy. He's got his hands full with COVID-19. Only one disaster at a time.

We have completely lost our way as a country. When you start putting your financial desires over the health and well-being of your kids and society, you have really failed miserably as a nation.

But, you have the other side pandering for votes without any regard for people's safety. Sitting on your hands watching a mob do 55B dollars in damage to a city and its people should automatically disqualify you from public office.

Public safety? Did a rash of people die from the public outcry I'm not aware of?

The public displays following the George Floyd saga were a result of two centuries worth of neglect. I would hardly put those issues on an even plain. $55-billion dollars in damages is a small price to pay for 200 years of neglect and social injustice. In the end, the country is better for it. Flags have been eliminated. Statues have been torn down. Reform has started. As I see it, well worth the money spent.

Not sure how any of it relates to plankton growth in the ocean. That was a weird response to the issue of global warming.

29 have died. And the majority of the USA is sick of the rioting.

I'm sure you don't hear about it in SoCal.

And like JBusse said, the alienation of the police has turned people away from the Far Left.

I would disagree. That may be what they are saying in your circles, but not what they are saying in mine.

Nothing has come in this country without sacrifice and political strife. The riots and civil unrest were a necessary evil.

The results coming in the fallout from the George Floyd case have changed our landscape forever. Statues have fallen. Flags have been changed. NBA players are no longer frowned upon for taking a knee during the anthem. Professional teams are wearing slogans on their jerseys. The Washington football team changed its name. Police departments are finally losing funding and revisiting protocols. Just to name a few.

It may have been uncomfortable for some and exposed the police forces nationwide for institutional issues, but it was needed. In what has been a disastrous 3.5 years, it was the one beacon of hope. Black people and white people walked arm-in-arm in uniting against 200+ years of oppression. I was inspired. It was the only positive thing about 2020.

Some of the protests were inspiring.

Burning up minority businesses, starting police stations on fire(if they burn alive, so be it), 29 lives taken, etc... These events overshadow the good.

I'd be inspired as a Viking Fan if all I watched was the highlight reel of 2019. No showing Elfy getting pancaked, Rhodes get burnt, Cousins fumbling.

Get back to me in 20 years on this. In 2040, short of the owners, nobody will remember one business that got burned. The good will far outweigh the bad. Not even close.

I'm sorry it saddened you. I'm sorry it was a disappointment to you. I'm sorry it stirred up emotions in you. But if you can't see the point of it all, you need to check your values. The buildings and businesses can be rebuilt. For George Floyd and many others, however, life ended as a result of ongoing corruption and lack of institutional control that has existed for over 200 years.

It was time! Enough with the fancy talk and promises by politicians. Take to the streets and let your actions be heard. It if makes people uncomfortable for a few weeks, so be it. The alternative was life as usual, which for many, was no longer an option.

2020 was a bad year for pacifists.


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Send this post to the families of the 29 dead during the protests. You just gloss over that fact like it didn't happen.

Maybe you need to check your values.

What values are you talking about? Asking for a smoother, less 'messy' approach to social change?

Are you actually going to gloss over the social injustice of the last few hundred years to rail against the social unrest of the last two months?

Because 29 people have died / businesses and property have been damaged? Sure, those are incalculable losses to everybody closely involved. But weighing the last two months against the innumerable lives and families that have been destroyed throughout our history / are currently being destroyed as we speak ... is a very insulated and short-sighted calculation.

That's not about values, that's about being numb to the requirements of significant change.

We as a society have made incredible progress over race issues. People will always have us and them groups. If you think burning businesses and killing innocent people is a good thing to bring about even more progress...............well that just makes me sick.
This from a mixed Native American, White and Asian. Not Black so I guess that disqualifies me to speak against burning and killing.

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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 8/12/2020 11:56:48 AM   
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If a once in a generation Martin Luther type leading a new party emerged the Dem and Rep would unite to oust them. If they couldn't do it through their dirty politics they'd have him assassinated.

So no, there is not much hope anything will change.

Sadly it's kind of true, but perhaps the followers would unite even stronger.

MLK is probably more like once every four+ generations. As Bill says, there is essentially no hope for a viable third party. The establishment has too much power, and they'll never relinquish it.
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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 8/12/2020 11:58:09 AM   
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engage, assess, analyze, and vote

This would be a good slogan to get out to the American people.

I don't think that maybe 40% of people actually are informed or inform themselves on the candidates. I'm guilty of not digging deeper on elections beyond the presidency.

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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 8/12/2020 12:03:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

The biggest problem besides the receding polar ice caps. Is that the plankton in the ocean is disappearing at an alarming rate.

5 REASONS TO THANK PLANKTON THAT YOU’RE ALIVE TODAY.

1. Plankton make up 95 per cent of ocean life
2. They form the base of aquatic food webs
3. They generate half of the atmosphere’s oxygen
4. They help absorb carbon emissions
5. But our increasing emissions are harming them

Shhhhhhhhh. Don't throw reality at the boy. He's got his hands full with COVID-19. Only one disaster at a time.

We have completely lost our way as a country. When you start putting your financial desires over the health and well-being of your kids and society, you have really failed miserably as a nation.

But, you have the other side pandering for votes without any regard for people's safety. Sitting on your hands watching a mob do 55B dollars in damage to a city and its people should automatically disqualify you from public office.

Public safety? Did a rash of people die from the public outcry I'm not aware of?

The public displays following the George Floyd saga were a result of two centuries worth of neglect. I would hardly put those issues on an even plain. $55-billion dollars in damages is a small price to pay for 200 years of neglect and social injustice. In the end, the country is better for it. Flags have been eliminated. Statues have been torn down. Reform has started. As I see it, well worth the money spent.

Not sure how any of it relates to plankton growth in the ocean. That was a weird response to the issue of global warming.

29 have died. And the majority of the USA is sick of the rioting.

I'm sure you don't hear about it in SoCal.

And like JBusse said, the alienation of the police has turned people away from the Far Left.

I would disagree. That may be what they are saying in your circles, but not what they are saying in mine.

Nothing has come in this country without sacrifice and political strife. The riots and civil unrest were a necessary evil.

The results coming in the fallout from the George Floyd case have changed our landscape forever. Statues have fallen. Flags have been changed. NBA players are no longer frowned upon for taking a knee during the anthem. Professional teams are wearing slogans on their jerseys. The Washington football team changed its name. Police departments are finally losing funding and revisiting protocols. Just to name a few.

It may have been uncomfortable for some and exposed the police forces nationwide for institutional issues, but it was needed. In what has been a disastrous 3.5 years, it was the one beacon of hope. Black people and white people walked arm-in-arm in uniting against 200+ years of oppression. I was inspired. It was the only positive thing about 2020.

Some of the protests were inspiring.

Burning up minority businesses, starting police stations on fire(if they burn alive, so be it), 29 lives taken, etc... These events overshadow the good.

I'd be inspired as a Viking Fan if all I watched was the highlight reel of 2019. No showing Elfy getting pancaked, Rhodes get burnt, Cousins fumbling.

Get back to me in 20 years on this. In 2040, short of the owners, nobody will remember one business that got burned. The good will far outweigh the bad. Not even close.

I'm sorry it saddened you. I'm sorry it was a disappointment to you. I'm sorry it stirred up emotions in you. But if you can't see the point of it all, you need to check your values. The buildings and businesses can be rebuilt. For George Floyd and many others, however, life ended as a result of ongoing corruption and lack of institutional control that has existed for over 200 years.

It was time! Enough with the fancy talk and promises by politicians. Take to the streets and let your actions be heard. It if makes people uncomfortable for a few weeks, so be it. The alternative was life as usual, which for many, was no longer an option.

2020 was a bad year for pacifists.


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Send this post to the families of the 29 dead during the protests. You just gloss over that fact like it didn't happen.

Maybe you need to check your values.

What values are you talking about? Asking for a smoother, less 'messy' approach to social change?

Are you actually going to gloss over the social injustice of the last few hundred years to rail against the social unrest of the last two months?

Because 29 people have died / businesses and property have been damaged? Sure, those are incalculable losses to everybody closely involved. But weighing the last two months against the innumerable lives and families that have been destroyed throughout our history / are currently being destroyed as we speak ... is a very insulated and short-sighted calculation.

That's not about values, that's about being numb to the requirements of significant change.

We as a society have made incredible progress over race issues. People will always have us and them groups. If you think burning businesses and killing innocent people is a good thing to bring about even more progress...............well that just makes me sick.
This from a mixed Native American, White and Asian. Not Black so I guess that disqualifies me to speak against burning and killing.

You need to re-read and edit the last sentence of your post - which is perfectly ignorant but not what I suspect you intended to get across.

As for the rest, if your gross mis-interpretation of what I say makes you sick ... all I can say is, SWEET!
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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 8/12/2020 12:15:17 PM  4 votes
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Also KG ... the only people talking about the ‘incredible progress’ we’ve made are the people that are either too blind or too complacent to see how far there is to go.

It’s like Trump touting the incredible job he’s done with the pandemic, while it rages on.
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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 8/12/2020 1:04:21 PM  2 votes
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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

The biggest problem besides the receding polar ice caps. Is that the plankton in the ocean is disappearing at an alarming rate.

5 REASONS TO THANK PLANKTON THAT YOU’RE ALIVE TODAY.

1. Plankton make up 95 per cent of ocean life
2. They form the base of aquatic food webs
3. They generate half of the atmosphere’s oxygen
4. They help absorb carbon emissions
5. But our increasing emissions are harming them



But, you have the other side pandering for votes without any regard for people's safety. Sitting on your hands watching a mob do 55B dollars in damage to a city and its people should automatically disqualify you from public office.

Public safety? Did a rash of people die from the public outcry I'm not aware of?

The public displays following the George Floyd saga were a result of two centuries worth of neglect. I would hardly put those issues on an even plain. $55-billion dollars in damages is a small price to pay for 200 years of neglect and social injustice. In the end, the country is better for it. Flags have been eliminated. Statues have been torn down. Reform has started. As I see it, well worth the money spent.

Not sure how any of it relates to plankton growth in the ocean. That was a weird response to the issue of global warming.

29 have died. And the majority of the USA is sick of the rioting.

I'm sure you don't hear about it in SoCal.

And like JBusse said, the alienation of the police has turned people away from the Far Left.



Some of the protests were inspiring.

Burning up minority businesses, starting police stations on fire(if they burn alive, so be it), 29 lives taken, etc... These events overshadow the good.

I'd be inspired as a Viking Fan if all I watched was the highlight reel of 2019. No showing Elfy getting pancaked, Rhodes get burnt, Cousins fumbling.



Send this post to the families of the 29 dead during the protests. You just gloss over that fact like it didn't happen.

Maybe you need to check your values.

What values are you talking about? Asking for a smoother, less 'messy' approach to social change?

Are you actually going to gloss over the social injustice of the last few hundred years to rail against the social unrest of the last two months?

Because 29 people have died / businesses and property have been damaged? Sure, those are incalculable losses to everybody closely involved. But weighing the last two months against the innumerable lives and families that have been destroyed throughout our history / are currently being destroyed as we speak ... is a very insulated and short-sighted calculation.

That's not about values, that's about being numb to the requirements of significant change.

We as a society have made incredible progress over race issues. People will always have us and them groups. If you think burning businesses and killing innocent people is a good thing to bring about even more progress...............well that just makes me sick.
This from a mixed Native American, White and Asian. Not Black so I guess that disqualifies me to speak against burning and killing.


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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 8/12/2020 1:59:30 PM  1 votes
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People who vote for Trump this time around are either racists, xenophobes, sexists, homophobes, science deniers, etc, or they're willing to support a clear demagogue who embodies all of those things in order to get what they want. It may be law and order, abortion rights, financial considerations, etc, but the key is you have to say that whatever your thing is, it's more important than competence and the list of Trump attributes above. I get that some people may go that way, but it tells us a lot.....


**** off, and hunker down.

Todd, I've known you for over 20 years and never heard you come close to those kind of words before.

bohumn, I have a brother and son who'd put you in the emergency room if you said that to them face-to-face.

- I've always liked you a lot, man, but I think this thread is getting to you a little bit.

- I'd vore for Pete but no way in hell am I voting for Joe.

Maybe your brother and son shouldn't take their Trump worship so seriously that they are willing to physically assault those that call them out.

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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 8/12/2020 2:20:13 PM   
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Doesn't
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Harris
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I do now, but why would I? I hate politicians and only want the 2 parties destroyed. As soon as I hear Republican or Democrat I already know what that person is.

Don't you profess to be a Christian or something?
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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 8/12/2020 2:20:57 PM  1 votes
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If a once in a generation Martin Luther type leading a new party emerged the Dem and Rep would unite to oust them. If they couldn't do it through their dirty politics they'd have him assassinated.

So no, there is not much hope anything will change.

Sadly it's kind of true, but perhaps the followers would unite even stronger.

MLK is probably more like once every four+ generations. As Bill says, there is essentially no hope for a viable third party. The establishment has too much power, and they'll never relinquish it.

LeBron and some other high profile celebrities have a chance if they band together and dump most of the BLM stuff.

1) Still push for some changes in Law Enforcement. But you have to understand that what is going on now is only hurting the people you want to help.

2) Education: LBJ gets high marks for this.

3) The tricky one. Plenty of PSAs against AWOL fathers. This would be a game changer if they could convince guys it is cool to be a Father and be around.

4) Gang Violence: Maybe this would work itself out if there were more high paying jobs. Plus a Father at home would decrease this.

5) Reparations should be tied to something that will help in the long run. Government checks and Gambling have not helped Native Americans. You need something that lasts longer and sticks.


Like Tom S. said, there is a long way to go. Most of the stuff Brad listed(Redskins, Statues, Flags) are just gestures. They don't put food on the table and kids in the classroom and Degrees on the wall.

Rip away my Liberal friends.

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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 8/12/2020 2:22:59 PM   
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People who vote for Trump this time around are either racists, xenophobes, sexists, homophobes, science deniers, etc, or they're willing to support a clear demagogue who embodies all of those things in order to get what they want. It may be law and order, abortion rights, financial considerations, etc, but the key is you have to say that whatever your thing is, it's more important than competence and the list of Trump attributes above. I get that some people may go that way, but it tells us a lot.....


**** off, and hunker down.

Todd, I've known you for over 20 years and never heard you come close to those kind of words before.

bohumn, I have a brother and son who'd put you in the emergency room if you said that to them face-to-face.

- I've always liked you a lot, man, but I think this thread is getting to you a little bit.

- I'd vore for Pete but no way in hell am I voting for Joe.

Maybe your brother and son shouldn't take their Trump worship so seriously that they are willing to physically assault those that call them out.

Ricky already addressed this upstream.
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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 8/12/2020 2:29:38 PM   
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As a registered (no party affiliation) Independent ...



Me too. Just got it changed when I added a Class A to my drivers license. I feel good about it. (pretty sure I mentioned that before somewhere)
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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 8/12/2020 2:44:56 PM   
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Also KG ... the only people talking about the ‘incredible progress’ we’ve made are the people that are either too blind or too complacent to see how far there is to go.

It’s like Trump touting the incredible job he’s done with the pandemic, while it rages on.

Bullshit that we haven't made incredible progress. In the foundation of our country we were practicing slavery. We fixed that. A colored man could be lynched for looking at or talking to a white woman. We fixed that. Until the early 1900s women didn't have the right to vote. We fixed that. Than we were practicing separate, but equal. We fixed that. We had laws against interracial marriages. We fixed that. Anybody who can't see we've made incredible progress is blind. There is racism in our country and there will always be. People need to have us groups and them groups. Just the way we are. For many being a Republican or Democrat is an us group and the other is a them group. We have racism in our country, but there is no systemic racism. It has been outlawed in every way imaginable. I have no clue if race had anything to do with the George Floyd incident. It could have just been some overzealous cops going too far and would have happened regardless of the skin color.

In summation lets continue to make progress, but progress should not involve, burning, looting or killing. Yes if you think that's all helping progress as evidenced by your statement that's about being numb to the requirements of significant change.. That statement indicates to me that you believe this progress or change we all want has to have burning, looting, and murder of innocent people to happen.
that does make me sick.

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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 8/12/2020 2:47:44 PM   
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Doesn't
know
who
Harris
is ….

I do now, but why would I? I hate politicians and only want the 2 parties destroyed. As soon as I hear Republican or Democrat I already know what that person is.

Don't you profess to be a Christian or something?

You going to nit pick me. I wish no evil upon any person politician or otherwise. I hate the politics (sin) but love the politician (sinner).

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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 8/12/2020 3:00:08 PM   
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Doesn't
know
who
Harris
is ….

I do now, but why would I? I hate politicians and only want the 2 parties destroyed. As soon as I hear Republican or Democrat I already know what that person is.

Don't you profess to be a Christian or something?

You going to nit pick me. I wish no evil upon any person politician or otherwise. I hate the politics (sin) but love the politician (sinner).

Logic!!!!!
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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 8/12/2020 3:16:29 PM   
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Doesn't
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Harris
is ….

I do now, but why would I? I hate politicians and only want the 2 parties destroyed. As soon as I hear Republican or Democrat I already know what that person is.

Don't you profess to be a Christian or something?

You going to nit pick me. I wish no evil upon any person politician or otherwise. I hate the politics (sin) but love the politician (sinner).

Logic!!!!!

Not exactly, but close enough.

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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 8/12/2020 3:29:21 PM   
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If we were to accept the premises
A: Christians must hate sin, but love all people (even really bad ones )
B: Politicians are people (questionable ), but their actions are sin
C: I am a Christian
thus follows
D: I must love politicians, but hate their actions.

So logical in that way.

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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 8/12/2020 3:55:53 PM  1 votes
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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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Also KG ... the only people talking about the ‘incredible progress’ we’ve made are the people that are either too blind or too complacent to see how far there is to go.

It’s like Trump touting the incredible job he’s done with the pandemic, while it rages on.

Bullshit that we haven't made incredible progress. In the foundation of our country we were practicing slavery. We fixed that. A colored man could be lynched for looking at or talking to a white woman. We fixed that. Until the early 1900s women didn't have the right to vote. We fixed that. Than we were practicing separate, but equal. We fixed that. We had laws against interracial marriages. We fixed that. Anybody who can't see we've made incredible progress is blind. There is racism in our country and there will always be. People need to have us groups and them groups. Just the way we are. For many being a Republican or Democrat is an us group and the other is a them group. We have racism in our country, but there is no systemic racism. It has been outlawed in every way imaginable. I have no clue if race had anything to do with the George Floyd incident. It could have just been some overzealous cops going too far and would have happened regardless of the skin color.

In summation lets continue to make progress, but progress should not involve, burning, looting or killing. Yes if you think that's all helping progress as evidenced by your statement that's about being numb to the requirements of significant change.. That statement indicates to me that you believe this progress or change we all want has to have burning, looting, and murder of innocent people to happen.
that does make me sick.

I am not talking about burning, looting and killing ... you keep trying to force that square peg into my circular meaning. Nobody wants that. Not only is it plain wrong and not a part of any solution – it gives narrow minded people like you an opportunity to shut down the conversation and dismiss the really bad problems that exist simultaneously with all the 'incredible progress' you see out there.

Which is exactly why some people are engaged in those activities. Not all but certainly some.

I'm done with you. Carry on and keep sucking on your blue pill.

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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 8/12/2020 4:28:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Also KG ... the only people talking about the ‘incredible progress’ we’ve made are the people that are either too blind or too complacent to see how far there is to go.

It’s like Trump touting the incredible job he’s done with the pandemic, while it rages on.

Bullshit that we haven't made incredible progress. In the foundation of our country we were practicing slavery. We fixed that. A colored man could be lynched for looking at or talking to a white woman. We fixed that. Until the early 1900s women didn't have the right to vote. We fixed that. Than we were practicing separate, but equal. We fixed that. We had laws against interracial marriages. We fixed that. Anybody who can't see we've made incredible progress is blind. There is racism in our country and there will always be. People need to have us groups and them groups. Just the way we are. For many being a Republican or Democrat is an us group and the other is a them group. We have racism in our country, but there is no systemic racism. It has been outlawed in every way imaginable. I have no clue if race had anything to do with the George Floyd incident. It could have just been some overzealous cops going too far and would have happened regardless of the skin color.

In summation lets continue to make progress, but progress should not involve, burning, looting or killing. Yes if you think that's all helping progress as evidenced by your statement that's about being numb to the requirements of significant change.. That statement indicates to me that you believe this progress or change we all want has to have burning, looting, and murder of innocent people to happen.
that does make me sick.

I am not talking about burning, looting and killing ... you keep trying to force that square peg into my circular meaning. Nobody wants that. Not only is it plain wrong and not a part of any solution – it gives narrow minded people like you an opportunity to shut down the conversation and dismiss the really bad problems that exist simultaneously with all the 'incredible progress' you see out there.

Which is exactly why some people are engaged in those activities. Not all but certainly some.

I'm done with you. Carry on and keep sucking on your blue pill.
You're comments particularly the one I highlighted sure made it seem to me that you thought we needed those things as acceptable collateral damage in the fight against the unbelievably horrible, systemic racism that you see in our country. I guess I misunderstood you. Racism sucks, but what more can we do to eliminate it than we have already done? Racism is just one form of the Us/Them groups. DEMS/REPS, Boys/Girls Old/Young, Vikings/Packers. Just the way it is and always will be.

If you don't see that we have made incredible progress you are blind. If I don't see that more progress is needed I'm blind. I'm not narrow minded in any way and I do see that more progress is needed. I think virtually everyone does. So if you're arguing against those who see no need for progress you are more or less arguing against a strawman. You're certainly not arguing against me.

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