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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: unome

You can make every excuse you can find, but you have not explained the huge difference in why our COVID death rate has been so much higher than ALL of our neighbors.

I will let all this rest if you just acknowledge that you understand one thing is not debatable: the Minnesota COVID number of deaths per infection is substantially higher than all of our neighbors and that seems unlikely to have happened without some sort of cause.

Did you even read the article I posted? It explains quite clearly that Minnesota's death total is higher because they test and report cases that other states don't. It stands to reason that if tests facilities that other states don't, they will have more reported covid deaths. In other words, there are a lot of deaths not attributed to covid in other states because they didn't test for it.

We are cashing in. Drug overdose counted as a covid death.

There is $$$ in covid deaths.

I really surprised Trump hasn't cut off this $ for covid deaths.

We'd probably start getting a lot more accurate statistics about the deaths.

It isn't just Minnesota. It's everywhere.

Hospitals/Doctors trying to stay afloat with all the regular patients(elective surgeries, yearly checkups, etc...) they lost.

Right. But why not give them aid in some other package rather than having it linked with covid deaths?

Politics

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: unome

You can make every excuse you can find, but you have not explained the huge difference in why our COVID death rate has been so much higher than ALL of our neighbors.

I will let all this rest if you just acknowledge that you understand one thing is not debatable: the Minnesota COVID number of deaths per infection is substantially higher than all of our neighbors and that seems unlikely to have happened without some sort of cause.

Did you even read the article I posted? It explains quite clearly that Minnesota's death total is higher because they test and report cases that other states don't. It stands to reason that if tests facilities that other states don't, they will have more reported covid deaths. In other words, there are a lot of deaths not attributed to covid in other states because they didn't test for it.

We are cashing in. Drug overdose counted as a covid death.

There is $$$ in covid deaths.

I really surprised Trump hasn't cut off this $ for covid deaths.

We'd probably start getting a lot more accurate statistics about the deaths.

It isn't just Minnesota. It's everywhere.

Hospitals/Doctors trying to stay afloat with all the regular patients(elective surgeries, yearly checkups, etc...) they lost.

Right. But why not give them aid in some other package rather than having it linked with covid deaths?

Politics

If it's all politics, answer me these two questions.

When was the last time New York City had to bring in freezer trucks to pile the rows of dead bodies from heart attacks, pneumonia, flu-like symptoms and the likes? That's of course, provided you are still trying to say that the COVID death numbers are way overblown.

If it's all politics, why is it happening all around the world? Those Democrats certainly seem to have a lot of power around the globe.

After six months one would think there would be enough proof that a global pandemic is something to be concerned about. Yet, there is still some of you that want to listen to an administration that has botched this thing from the beginning.

At this point, as a nation, we only have ourselves to blame.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: unome

You can make every excuse you can find, but you have not explained the huge difference in why our COVID death rate has been so much higher than ALL of our neighbors.

I will let all this rest if you just acknowledge that you understand one thing is not debatable: the Minnesota COVID number of deaths per infection is substantially higher than all of our neighbors and that seems unlikely to have happened without some sort of cause.

Did you even read the article I posted? It explains quite clearly that Minnesota's death total is higher because they test and report cases that other states don't. It stands to reason that if tests facilities that other states don't, they will have more reported covid deaths. In other words, there are a lot of deaths not attributed to covid in other states because they didn't test for it.

We are cashing in. Drug overdose counted as a covid death.

There is $$$ in covid deaths.

I really surprised Trump hasn't cut off this $ for covid deaths.

We'd probably start getting a lot more accurate statistics about the deaths.

It isn't just Minnesota. It's everywhere.

Hospitals/Doctors trying to stay afloat with all the regular patients(elective surgeries, yearly checkups, etc...) they lost.

Right. But why not give them aid in some other package rather than having it linked with covid deaths?

Politics

If it's all politics, answer me these two questions.

When was the last time New York City had to bring in freezer trucks to pile the rows of dead bodies from heart attacks, pneumonia, flu-like symptoms and the likes? That's of course, provided you are still trying to say that the COVID death numbers are way overblown.

If it's all politics, why is it happening all around the world? Those Democrats certainly seem to have a lot of power around the globe.

After six months one would think there would be enough proof that a global pandemic is something to be concerned about. Yet, there is still some of you that want to listen to an administration that has botched this thing from the beginning.

At this point, as a nation, we only have ourselves to blame.

Didn't say way overblown. Just somewhat higher than what it is.

If you don't believe me, the Surgeon General said as much when he said in a Press Conference that he was concerned about some places linking everything to Covid for the $$$.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: unome

You can make every excuse you can find, but you have not explained the huge difference in why our COVID death rate has been so much higher than ALL of our neighbors.

I will let all this rest if you just acknowledge that you understand one thing is not debatable: the Minnesota COVID number of deaths per infection is substantially higher than all of our neighbors and that seems unlikely to have happened without some sort of cause.

Did you even read the article I posted? It explains quite clearly that Minnesota's death total is higher because they test and report cases that other states don't. It stands to reason that if tests facilities that other states don't, they will have more reported covid deaths. In other words, there are a lot of deaths not attributed to covid in other states because they didn't test for it.

We are cashing in. Drug overdose counted as a covid death.

There is $$$ in covid deaths.

I really surprised Trump hasn't cut off this $ for covid deaths.

We'd probably start getting a lot more accurate statistics about the deaths.

It isn't just Minnesota. It's everywhere.

Hospitals/Doctors trying to stay afloat with all the regular patients(elective surgeries, yearly checkups, etc...) they lost.

Right. But why not give them aid in some other package rather than having it linked with covid deaths?

Politics

If it's all politics, answer me these two questions.

When was the last time New York City had to bring in freezer trucks to pile the rows of dead bodies from heart attacks, pneumonia, flu-like symptoms and the likes? That's of course, provided you are still trying to say that the COVID death numbers are way overblown.

If it's all politics, why is it happening all around the world? Those Democrats certainly seem to have a lot of power around the globe.

After six months one would think there would be enough proof that a global pandemic is something to be concerned about. Yet, there is still some of you that want to listen to an administration that has botched this thing from the beginning.

At this point, as a nation, we only have ourselves to blame.

Didn't say way overblown. Just somewhat higher than what it is.

If you don't believe me, the Surgeon General said as much when he said in a Press Conference that he was concerned about some places linking everything to Covid for the $$$.

The Surgeon General right now has very little credibility. He's nothing but a pawn for the president.

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For the first time in my memory - basically all of those positions that used to be non-political are now acting as political mouthpieces for the president. The CDC Director, the Attorney General, the Director of National Security ... Trump has hired his cronies and corrupted all of them.

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For the first time in my memory - basically all of those positions that used to be non-political are now acting as political mouthpieces for the president. The CDC Director, the Attorney General, the Director of National Security ... Trump has hired his cronies and corrupted all of them.

Doesn't every president bring in their own cronies?

Cronies... I like that word

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

For the first time in my memory - basically all of those positions that used to be non-political are now acting as political mouthpieces for the president. The CDC Director, the Attorney General, the Director of National Security ... Trump has hired his cronies and corrupted all of them.

Doesn't every president bring in their own cronies?

Cronies... I like that word

Exactly. Everybody has selective memory, when it serves them.

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Here's the thing that non-riders don't understand. Were different from you. We ride at night knowing that if a deer jumps put in front of us, well that's a problem. For those in a 4 wheeled cage, for the most part that's a problem for the deer. Hopefully we are able to get out of that situation unscathed. MOST times that's the case. Our approach to life essentially involves risks that most/many ensure that they filter out of their lives. It's not like suddenly based on a virus that kills 1 in about 20000 people, we're going to stop riding, we are way less concerned about COVID than we are about a deer jumping out in front of us.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

Here's the thing that non-riders don't understand. Were different from you. We ride at night knowing that if a deer jumps put in front of us, well that's a problem. For those in a 4 wheeled cage, for the most part that's a problem for the deer. Hopefully we are able to get out of that situation unscathed. MOST times that's the case. Our approach to life essentially involves risks that most/many ensure that they filter out of their lives. It's not like suddenly based on a virus that kills 1 in about 20000 people, we're going to stop riding, we are way less concerned about COVID than we are about a deer jumping out in front of us.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

Here's the thing that non-riders don't understand. Were different from you. We ride at night knowing that if a deer jumps put in front of us, well that's a problem. For those in a 4 wheeled cage, for the most part that's a problem for the deer. Hopefully we are able to get out of that situation unscathed. MOST times that's the case. Our approach to life essentially involves risks that most/many ensure that they filter out of their lives. It's not like suddenly based on a virus that kills 1 in about 20000 people, we're going to stop riding, we are way less concerned about COVID than we are about a deer jumping out in front of us.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

Here's the thing that non-riders don't understand. Were different from you. We ride at night knowing that if a deer jumps put in front of us, well that's a problem. For those in a 4 wheeled cage, for the most part that's a problem for the deer. Hopefully we are able to get out of that situation unscathed. MOST times that's the case. Our approach to life essentially involves risks that most/many ensure that they filter out of their lives. It's not like suddenly based on a virus that kills 1 in about 20000 people, we're going to stop riding, we are way less concerned about COVID than we are about a deer jumping out in front of us.

Agreed, you are way less concerned about hurting or killing people affected by spreading a deadly virus. Good on ya!

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

Here's the thing that non-riders don't understand. Were different from you. We ride at night knowing that if a deer jumps put in front of us, well that's a problem. For those in a 4 wheeled cage, for the most part that's a problem for the deer. Hopefully we are able to get out of that situation unscathed. MOST times that's the case. Our approach to life essentially involves risks that most/many ensure that they filter out of their lives. It's not like suddenly based on a virus that kills 1 in about 20000 people, we're going to stop riding, we are way less concerned about COVID than we are about a deer jumping out in front of us.

Agreed, you are way less concerned about hurting or killing people affected by spreading a deadly virus. Good on ya!

Don't you remember the Deer Massacre of 1986? Someone took out a deer on the way to a wedding, and within a month, the entire wedding party had been mauled by deer.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

Here's the thing that non-riders don't understand. Were different from you. We ride at night knowing that if a deer jumps put in front of us, well that's a problem. For those in a 4 wheeled cage, for the most part that's a problem for the deer. Hopefully we are able to get out of that situation unscathed. MOST times that's the case. Our approach to life essentially involves risks that most/many ensure that they filter out of their lives. It's not like suddenly based on a virus that kills 1 in about 20000 people, we're going to stop riding, we are way less concerned about COVID than we are about a deer jumping out in front of us.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

Here's the thing that non-riders don't understand. Were different from you. We ride at night knowing that if a deer jumps put in front of us, well that's a problem. For those in a 4 wheeled cage, for the most part that's a problem for the deer. Hopefully we are able to get out of that situation unscathed. MOST times that's the case. Our approach to life essentially involves risks that most/many ensure that they filter out of their lives. It's not like suddenly based on a virus that kills 1 in about 20000 people, we're going to stop riding, we are way less concerned about COVID than we are about a deer jumping out in front of us.

You want me in my four-wheeled cage to look out for you on the road right? You would expect that I take care to be alert and START SEEING MOTORCYCLES? Lucky for you I do just that. It takes just a tiny bit of effort and benefits everyone. So maybe in return (or just for the sake of being a good and responsible human) you could pay a little attention to a pandemic that is out of control even if the odds of dying are small?

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

For the first time in my memory - basically all of those positions that used to be non-political are now acting as political mouthpieces for the president. The CDC Director, the Attorney General, the Director of National Security ... Trump has hired his cronies and corrupted all of them.

Doesn't every president bring in their own cronies?

Cronies... I like that word

Exactly. Everybody has selective memory, when it serves them.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

I think you guys should head down to your local biker bar and storm in there and tell these scum bags everything you've been preaching here.

Don't hold back either, give it to em with both barrels.