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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Top 13 states for virus cases-per-million people:

1. Louisiana
2. Mississippi
3. Florida
4. North Dakota
5. Alabama
6. Georgia
7. Arizona
8. Tennessee
9. Iowa
10. South Carolina
11. South Dakota
12. Arkansas
13. Texas

Idaho is coming on strong and soon will make it the top 14 states in virus cases (per-million). Utah also making a charge.

All voted for Trump in 2016. And people say leadership (or lack thereof) doesn't matter.

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Top 13 states for virus cases-per-million people:

1. Louisiana
2. Mississippi
3. Florida
4. North Dakota
5. Alabama
6. Georgia
7. Arizona
8. Tennessee
9. Iowa
10. South Carolina
11. South Dakota
12. Arkansas
13. Texas

Idaho is coming on strong and soon will make it the top 14 states in virus cases (per-million). Utah also making a charge.

All voted for Trump in 2016. And people say leadership (or lack thereof) doesn't matter.

Deaths per million:

1. New Jersey, 182 deaths per million, Democratic governor
2. New York, 171, Democratic
3. Massachusetts, 139, Republican
4. Connecticut, 127, Democratic
5. Louisiana, 121, Democratic
6. Rhode Island, 106, Democratic
7. Mississippi, 103, Republican
8. District of Columbia, 90, Democratic mayor
9. Arizona, 79, Republican
10T. Illinois, 72, Democratic
10T. Michigan, 72, Democratic

States that required nursing homes to admit covid patients to their vulnerable populations:

New York, Democratic governor
New Jersey, Democratic governor
Pennsylvania, Democratic governor
Michigan, Democratic governor

On March 25, 2020, New York ordered: “No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to a nursing home solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. Nursing homes are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission.”

China had reported in mid-February that covid was especially lethal among the elderly.

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

Top 13 states for virus cases-per-million people:

1. Louisiana
2. Mississippi
3. Florida
4. North Dakota
5. Alabama
6. Georgia
7. Arizona
8. Tennessee
9. Iowa
10. South Carolina
11. South Dakota
12. Arkansas
13. Texas

Idaho is coming on strong and soon will make it the top 14 states in virus cases (per-million). Utah also making a charge.

All voted for Trump in 2016. And people say leadership (or lack thereof) doesn't matter.

Deaths per million:

1. New Jersey, 182 deaths per million, Democratic governor
2. New York, 171, Democratic
3. Massachusetts, 139, Republican
4. Connecticut, 127, Democratic
5. Louisiana, 121, Democratic
6. Rhode Island, 106, Democratic
7. Mississippi, 103, Republican
8. District of Columbia, 90, Democratic mayor
9. Arizona, 79, Republican
10T. Illinois, 72, Democratic
10T. Michigan, 72, Democratic

States that required nursing homes to admit covid patients to their vulnerable populations:

New York, Democratic governor
New Jersey, Democratic governor
Pennsylvania, Democratic governor
Michigan, Democratic governor

On March 25, 2020, New York ordered: “No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to a nursing home solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. Nursing homes are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission.”

China had reported in mid-February that covid was especially lethal among the elderly.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Top 13 states for virus cases-per-million people:

1. Louisiana
2. Mississippi
3. Florida
4. North Dakota
5. Alabama
6. Georgia
7. Arizona
8. Tennessee
9. Iowa
10. South Carolina
11. South Dakota
12. Arkansas
13. Texas

Idaho is coming on strong and soon will make it the top 14 states in virus cases (per-million). Utah also making a charge.

All voted for Trump in 2016. And people say leadership (or lack thereof) doesn't matter.

Deaths per million:

1. New Jersey, 182 deaths per million, Democratic governor
2. New York, 171, Democratic
3. Massachusetts, 139, Republican
4. Connecticut, 127, Democratic
5. Louisiana, 121, Democratic
6. Rhode Island, 106, Democratic
7. Mississippi, 103, Republican
8. District of Columbia, 90, Democratic mayor
9. Arizona, 79, Republican
10T. Illinois, 72, Democratic
10T. Michigan, 72, Democratic

States that required nursing homes to admit covid patients to their vulnerable populations:

New York, Democratic governor
New Jersey, Democratic governor
Pennsylvania, Democratic governor
Michigan, Democratic governor

On March 25, 2020, New York ordered: “No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to a nursing home solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. Nursing homes are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission.”

China had reported in mid-February that covid was especially lethal among the elderly.

Come on, Jbusse.

Everyone knows that these states have high death rates because of the dumb azz GOP states next to them. Billy Bob and Cletus going into the big cities and spitting on everyone.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Top 13 states for virus cases-per-million people:

1. Louisiana
2. Mississippi
3. Florida
4. North Dakota
5. Alabama
6. Georgia
7. Arizona
8. Tennessee
9. Iowa
10. South Carolina
11. South Dakota
12. Arkansas
13. Texas

Idaho is coming on strong and soon will make it the top 14 states in virus cases (per-million). Utah also making a charge.

All voted for Trump in 2016. And people say leadership (or lack thereof) doesn't matter.

Deaths per million:

1. New Jersey, 182 deaths per million, Democratic governor
2. New York, 171, Democratic
3. Massachusetts, 139, Republican
4. Connecticut, 127, Democratic
5. Louisiana, 121, Democratic
6. Rhode Island, 106, Democratic
7. Mississippi, 103, Republican
8. District of Columbia, 90, Democratic mayor
9. Arizona, 79, Republican
10T. Illinois, 72, Democratic
10T. Michigan, 72, Democratic

States that required nursing homes to admit covid patients to their vulnerable populations:

New York, Democratic governor
New Jersey, Democratic governor
Pennsylvania, Democratic governor
Michigan, Democratic governor

On March 25, 2020, New York ordered: “No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to a nursing home solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. Nursing homes are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission.”

China had reported in mid-February that covid was especially lethal among the elderly.

Come on, Jbusse.

Everyone knows that these states have high death rates because of the dumb azz GOP states next to them. Billy Bob and Cletus going into the big cities and spitting on everyone.

THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL ISSUE. IT IS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Top 13 states for virus cases-per-million people:

1. Louisiana
2. Mississippi
3. Florida
4. North Dakota
5. Alabama
6. Georgia
7. Arizona
8. Tennessee
9. Iowa
10. South Carolina
11. South Dakota
12. Arkansas
13. Texas

Idaho is coming on strong and soon will make it the top 14 states in virus cases (per-million). Utah also making a charge.

All voted for Trump in 2016. And people say leadership (or lack thereof) doesn't matter.

Deaths per million:

1. New Jersey, 182 deaths per million, Democratic governor
2. New York, 171, Democratic
3. Massachusetts, 139, Republican
4. Connecticut, 127, Democratic
5. Louisiana, 121, Democratic
6. Rhode Island, 106, Democratic
7. Mississippi, 103, Republican
8. District of Columbia, 90, Democratic mayor
9. Arizona, 79, Republican
10T. Illinois, 72, Democratic
10T. Michigan, 72, Democratic

States that required nursing homes to admit covid patients to their vulnerable populations:

New York, Democratic governor
New Jersey, Democratic governor
Pennsylvania, Democratic governor
Michigan, Democratic governor

On March 25, 2020, New York ordered: “No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to a nursing home solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. Nursing homes are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission.”

China had reported in mid-February that covid was especially lethal among the elderly.

Come on, Jbusse.

Everyone knows that these states have high death rates because of the dumb azz GOP states next to them. Billy Bob and Cletus going into the big cities and spitting on everyone.

THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL ISSUE. IT IS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE.

Your a little late to the party. Plenty of posters you could have scolded before us.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Top 13 states for virus cases-per-million people:

1. Louisiana
2. Mississippi
3. Florida
4. North Dakota
5. Alabama
6. Georgia
7. Arizona
8. Tennessee
9. Iowa
10. South Carolina
11. South Dakota
12. Arkansas
13. Texas

Idaho is coming on strong and soon will make it the top 14 states in virus cases (per-million). Utah also making a charge.

All voted for Trump in 2016. And people say leadership (or lack thereof) doesn't matter.

Deaths per million:

1. New Jersey, 182 deaths per million, Democratic governor
2. New York, 171, Democratic
3. Massachusetts, 139, Republican
4. Connecticut, 127, Democratic
5. Louisiana, 121, Democratic
6. Rhode Island, 106, Democratic
7. Mississippi, 103, Republican
8. District of Columbia, 90, Democratic mayor
9. Arizona, 79, Republican
10T. Illinois, 72, Democratic
10T. Michigan, 72, Democratic

States that required nursing homes to admit covid patients to their vulnerable populations:

New York, Democratic governor
New Jersey, Democratic governor
Pennsylvania, Democratic governor
Michigan, Democratic governor

On March 25, 2020, New York ordered: “No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to a nursing home solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. Nursing homes are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission.”

China had reported in mid-February that covid was especially lethal among the elderly.

Come on, Jbusse.

Everyone knows that these states have high death rates because of the dumb azz GOP states next to them. Billy Bob and Cletus going into the big cities and spitting on everyone.

THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL ISSUE. IT IS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE.

Your a little late to the party. Plenty of posters you could have scolded before us.

I've been scolding people for months about it. Just not in here.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Top 13 states for virus cases-per-million people:

1. Louisiana
2. Mississippi
3. Florida
4. North Dakota
5. Alabama
6. Georgia
7. Arizona
8. Tennessee
9. Iowa
10. South Carolina
11. South Dakota
12. Arkansas
13. Texas

Idaho is coming on strong and soon will make it the top 14 states in virus cases (per-million). Utah also making a charge.

All voted for Trump in 2016. And people say leadership (or lack thereof) doesn't matter.

Deaths per million:

1. New Jersey, 182 deaths per million, Democratic governor
2. New York, 171, Democratic
3. Massachusetts, 139, Republican
4. Connecticut, 127, Democratic
5. Louisiana, 121, Democratic
6. Rhode Island, 106, Democratic
7. Mississippi, 103, Republican
8. District of Columbia, 90, Democratic mayor
9. Arizona, 79, Republican
10T. Illinois, 72, Democratic
10T. Michigan, 72, Democratic

States that required nursing homes to admit covid patients to their vulnerable populations:

New York, Democratic governor
New Jersey, Democratic governor
Pennsylvania, Democratic governor
Michigan, Democratic governor

On March 25, 2020, New York ordered: “No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to a nursing home solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. Nursing homes are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission.”

China had reported in mid-February that covid was especially lethal among the elderly.

Come on, Jbusse.

Everyone knows that these states have high death rates because of the dumb azz GOP states next to them. Billy Bob and Cletus going into the big cities and spitting on everyone.

THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL ISSUE. IT IS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE.

Your a little late to the party. Plenty of posters you could have scolded before us.

I've been scolding people for months about it. Just not in here.

Fair enough.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

Top 13 states for virus cases-per-million people:

1. Louisiana
2. Mississippi
3. Florida
4. North Dakota
5. Alabama
6. Georgia
7. Arizona
8. Tennessee
9. Iowa
10. South Carolina
11. South Dakota
12. Arkansas
13. Texas

Idaho is coming on strong and soon will make it the top 14 states in virus cases (per-million). Utah also making a charge.

All voted for Trump in 2016. And people say leadership (or lack thereof) doesn't matter.

Deaths per million:

1. New Jersey, 182 deaths per million, Democratic governor
2. New York, 171, Democratic
3. Massachusetts, 139, Republican
4. Connecticut, 127, Democratic
5. Louisiana, 121, Democratic
6. Rhode Island, 106, Democratic
7. Mississippi, 103, Republican
8. District of Columbia, 90, Democratic mayor
9. Arizona, 79, Republican
10T. Illinois, 72, Democratic
10T. Michigan, 72, Democratic

States that required nursing homes to admit covid patients to their vulnerable populations:

New York, Democratic governor
New Jersey, Democratic governor
Pennsylvania, Democratic governor
Michigan, Democratic governor

On March 25, 2020, New York ordered: “No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to a nursing home solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. Nursing homes are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission.”

China had reported in mid-February that covid was especially lethal among the elderly.

Come on, Jbusse.

Everyone knows that these states have high death rates because of the dumb azz GOP states next to them. Billy Bob and Cletus going into the big cities and spitting on everyone.

THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL ISSUE. IT IS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE.

Your a little late to the party. Plenty of posters you could have scolded before us.

I've been scolding people for months about it. Just not in here.

Fair enough.

Mark's just quitting the 'debate' because he's revving up for a 17th Lakers Championship!

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Not really that surprising that States like the Dakota's, Wyoming, Montana and some midwestern states to be their peaks now being they were relatively free early on when both coasts were getting hammered by it.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

732 new cases in South Dakota today. They are currently #6 in cases per million population. They weren’t even in the top 20 not so long ago and were 15th about two weeks ago. Uh oh. Pheasant season is just about to start. Sanford and avera remain at capacity and are no longer taking patients from their satellite hospitals. They tried to reach Noem for comment but all they heard was mrph mrph ma nerf mrph (trumps dick was in her mouth).

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

The lockdown isn't designed to be some kind of permanent situation. It's designed to put a screeching halt to the rampant spread of the very contagious virus. A city/state that doesn't lockdown at all is going to have a huge spike and many deaths. A city/state that locks down for a 4-6 week period is going to reduce both to a trickle. At that point things can re-open in a carefully considered manner.

Our problem is that, without any leadership at the top, we never took a hard stance at the beginning, which allowed the virus to spread out of control.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

The lockdown isn't designed to be some kind of permanent situation. It's designed to put a screeching halt to the rampant spread of the very contagious virus. A city/state that doesn't lockdown at all is going to have a huge spike and many deaths. A city/state that locks down for a 4-6 week period is going to reduce both to a trickle. At that point things can re-open in a carefully considered manner.

Our problem is that, without any leadership at the top, we never took a hard stance at the beginning, which allowed the virus to spread out of control.

If we wanted to cut the deaths in half, it would have to have been a permanent situation until a vaccine is available.

Then we are looking at probably 40% unemployment and a Great Depression. Unless we printed up another 5-7 Trillion dollars.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

The lockdown isn't designed to be some kind of permanent situation. It's designed to put a screeching halt to the rampant spread of the very contagious virus. A city/state that doesn't lockdown at all is going to have a huge spike and many deaths. A city/state that locks down for a 4-6 week period is going to reduce both to a trickle. At that point things can re-open in a carefully considered manner.

Our problem is that, without any leadership at the top, we never took a hard stance at the beginning, which allowed the virus to spread out of control.

If we wanted to cut the deaths in half, it would have to have been a permanent situation until a vaccine is available.

Then we are looking at probably 40% unemployment and a Great Depression. Unless we printed up another 5-7 Trillion dollars.

The lockdown's purpose was to buy time for our healthcare system to reconfigure itself to deal with the pandemic. Post-lockdown we needed energetic and purposeful leadership to push masks, distancing, and hand washing - EVEN IF THAT MEANT DOING SOME THINGS THAT AREN'T POLITICALLY POPULAR. That's a test of leadership - am I willing to do something for the good of the people even if that means I get some blowback from it. We all see what we got. Failure.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

The lockdown isn't designed to be some kind of permanent situation. It's designed to put a screeching halt to the rampant spread of the very contagious virus. A city/state that doesn't lockdown at all is going to have a huge spike and many deaths. A city/state that locks down for a 4-6 week period is going to reduce both to a trickle. At that point things can re-open in a carefully considered manner.

Our problem is that, without any leadership at the top, we never took a hard stance at the beginning, which allowed the virus to spread out of control.

If we wanted to cut the deaths in half, it would have to have been a permanent situation until a vaccine is available.

Then we are looking at probably 40% unemployment and a Great Depression. Unless we printed up another 5-7 Trillion dollars.

The lockdown's purpose was to buy time for our healthcare system to reconfigure itself to deal with the pandemic. Post-lockdown we needed energetic and purposeful leadership to push masks, distancing, and hand washing - EVEN IF THAT MEANT DOING SOME THINGS THAT AREN'T POLITICALLY POPULAR. That's a test of leadership - am I willing to do something for the good of the people even if that means I get some blowback from it. We all see what we got. Failure.

I'm guessing you would say Minnesota did all these things you are talking about.

What did it get them? Higher death per capita rates than a neighboring state that did little of those things.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

Any state that didn't condemn Protests/Riots as super spreader events loses all credibility in the fight against Covid?

Like Trekky said, this isn't a political issue.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

Any state that didn't condemn Protests/Riots as super spreader events loses all credibility in the fight against Covid?

Like Trekky said, this isn't a political issue.

They did condemn them. Everyone did. Were we supposed to shoot them or drive our cars into them?

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

Mark - you have a lot of opinions about how the pandemic should have been handled. I'd like to hear your opinion on Trump's handling of it.