bohumm
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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson We don't have objective journalism anymore. I don't know if we ever had honest debate in America. A long time ago, perhaps. Perhaps not. Well said. A simple truth, simply put. "Truth"? There is definitely objective journalism, and there is journalism with a slant, and there is sheer propaganda. This is like "both sides," "throw them all out," "the truth is in between," etc. Feels good to say, some merit to it, but mostly pablum. You have any names you are willing to assign as objective journalists? I ask because I think it's telling that I have to. "Journalism" today operates the same way most corporations do....profits first. Click bait, sensationalism, fear, conspiracy, death counts, villains and false heroes. Ethical journalism should not be a thing, like round circles. All journalism should be ethical. Who is doing that? Nice to see you, friend. Click bait, sensationalism, fear, conspiracy, death counts, villains and false heroes are definitely part of the landscape, but that's not all there is. I would say that it's not the journalists who are objective, it's the journalism (for the most part). The method fosters objectivity specifically because all individuals lack it. Of course there are slanted rags of various types in various formats to various degrees, but there are a lot of outlets, dailies especially, that are structured to deliver objective reporting (separate from editorials, of course). Even these might have a slight slant, mostly slightly to the left, both as a byproduct of our corporatist culture/society and as a reaction to it, but you can factor that in as you consume the news and still gain a better understanding of issues and events. The more slanted and the propagandists are where the trouble lies, particularly due to confirmation bias and the naïve, who are legion in 2021 in America. I consume the NYT, Washington Post, L.A. Times, CNN, MSNBC, Al Jazeera, Pro Publica (which is great), NPR, the New Yorker, the Atlantic Monthly, and stuff that links off of Twitter. I know that much of what I consume has a slight to very leftward slant, and I try to factor that in. MSNBC has a clear left POV. There is a slate of analogs to what I consume on the right. But reporters from most channels (with gross exceptions) are applying an objective method reinforced by an editorial structure that supports it. It isn't perfect, but it's not all the wild, wild west, either.
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