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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 4/30/2021 8:02:19 PM

David F.

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I confess ... if I were going to reach for OL

I'd be tempted by Hasan's boy Ben Cleveland. B-r-u-t-e power.

I could see him snapping Ezra's limbs just for a chance to start.

I think he'll be there for our mid-round picks.

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 4/30/2021 8:02:53 PM

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One of the presumed next three QBs Mills, Trask or Mond will be available at 66. If one stands out to us maybe trade up. I would rather trade up for an edge.

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 4/30/2021 8:02:53 PM

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I confess ... if I were going to reach for OL

I'd be tempted by Hasan's boy Ben Cleveland. B-r-u-t-e power.

I could see him snapping Ezra's limbs just for a chance to start.

Are you saying he's....Better Than Ezra?

Sorry. Bad joke.

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 4/30/2021 8:04:52 PM

Chris Olson

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all these speedy little guys...

I kinda want one...

pretty exciting players...

can they hold up?

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 4/30/2021 8:04:55 PM

David F.

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We're actually getting close to our pick. The longer we wait the less it costs to move up.

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 4/30/2021 8:06:34 PM

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Well you weren't getting the Jets 34 in a trade and therefore, presumably, the same player with less draft stock to try and move up...so if thats a win...nothing vs something...all the more power to you.

We would have taken Darrisaw at 14. Instead we got him at 23 plus 2 third round picks. One of them the 2nd pick in the round and Daniel can't see how that's a win. It's mind boggling.

It’s not a win...

It doesn’t take a genius to see that having muliple picks in round 3 and 4 is far worse than packaging that CRAP, with 14 to get a lower first and recoup a second...

The fact that you do not see that, is not surprising at all...

How’s your linebacker board looking now?

the three I had any interest in are all taken. Did these guys do your sister or something. Your despising them so much is very strange. Barr is gone after this year. If we can get a great one to replace him for a good value to me that's a win.

Barr was “ gone” last season..

Kendricks loss hurt more..

I’d trade Barr in a heartbeat for the jets third rounder..

He is past his expiration/ cap value date.

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 4/30/2021 8:08:04 PM

Chris Olson

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One of the presumed next three QBs Mills, Trask or Mond will be available at 66. If one stands out to us maybe trade up. I would rather trade up for an edge.

Agree with a trade up for edge

Perkins or Basham?

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 4/30/2021 8:09:12 PM 2 votes

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One of the presumed next three QBs Mills, Trask or Mond will be available at 66. If one stands out to us maybe trade up. I would rather trade up for an edge.

Agree with a trade up for edge

Perkins or Basham?

Basham just for his name alone.

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 4/30/2021 8:09:54 PM

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Well you weren't getting the Jets 34 in a trade and therefore, presumably, the same player with less draft stock to try and move up...so if thats a win...nothing vs something...all the more power to you.

We would have taken Darrisaw at 14. Instead we got him at 23 plus 2 third round picks. One of them the 2nd pick in the round and Daniel can't see how that's a win. It's mind boggling.

It’s not a win...

It doesn’t take a genius to see that having muliple picks in round 3 and 4 is far worse than packaging that CRAP, with 14 to get a lower first and recoup a second...

The fact that you do not see that, is not surprising at all...

How’s your linebacker board looking now?

the three I had any interest in are all taken. Did these guys do your sister or something. Your despising them so much is very strange. Barr is gone after this year. If we can get a great one to replace him for a good value to me that's a win.

Barr was “ gone” last season..

Kendricks loss hurt more..

I’d trade Barr in a heartbeat for the jets third rounder..

He is past his expiration/ cap value date.

So Barr sucks, but you hate the very idea of drafting a LB with a passion. WTF.

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 4/30/2021 8:10:09 PM

Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

I confess ... if I were going to reach for OL

I'd be tempted by Hasan's boy Ben Cleveland. B-r-u-t-e power.

I could see him snapping Ezra's limbs just for a chance to start.

I think he'll be there for our mid-round picks.

There's about 74 'best available' before Cleveland.... lol

I will bide my time.

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 4/30/2021 8:14:37 PM

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Well you weren't getting the Jets 34 in a trade and therefore, presumably, the same player with less draft stock to try and move up...so if thats a win...nothing vs something...all the more power to you.

We would have taken Darrisaw at 14. Instead we got him at 23 plus 2 third round picks. One of them the 2nd pick in the round and Daniel can't see how that's a win. It's mind boggling.

It’s not a win...

It doesn’t take a genius to see that having muliple picks in round 3 and 4 is far worse than packaging that CRAP, with 14 to get a lower first and recoup a second...

The fact that you do not see that, is not surprising at all...

How’s your linebacker board looking now?

the three I had any interest in are all taken. Did these guys do your sister or something. Your despising them so much is very strange. Barr is gone after this year. If we can get a great one to replace him for a good value to me that's a win.

Barr was “ gone” last season..

Kendricks loss hurt more..

I’d trade Barr in a heartbeat for the jets third rounder..

He is past his expiration/ cap value date.

So Barr sucks, but you hate the very idea of drafting a LB with a passion. WTF.

For the 15th time...

Linebacker is at the bottom of need list..

Every other position has more priority..

Kicker is a bigger need..
QBOTF is a bigger need..

A god damn strong interior guard is a waaaaaay bigger need...

Capeesh?

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 4/30/2021 8:19:14 PM

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Todd M

Well you weren't getting the Jets 34 in a trade and therefore, presumably, the same player with less draft stock to try and move up...so if thats a win...nothing vs something...all the more power to you.

We would have taken Darrisaw at 14. Instead we got him at 23 plus 2 third round picks. One of them the 2nd pick in the round and Daniel can't see how that's a win. It's mind boggling.

It’s not a win...

It doesn’t take a genius to see that having muliple picks in round 3 and 4 is far worse than packaging that CRAP, with 14 to get a lower first and recoup a second...

The fact that you do not see that, is not surprising at all...

How’s your linebacker board looking now?

the three I had any interest in are all taken. Did these guys do your sister or something. Your despising them so much is very strange. Barr is gone after this year. If we can get a great one to replace him for a good value to me that's a win.

Barr was “ gone” last season..

Kendricks loss hurt more..

I’d trade Barr in a heartbeat for the jets third rounder..

He is past his expiration/ cap value date.

So Barr sucks, but you hate the very idea of drafting a LB with a passion. WTF.

For the 15th time...

Linebacker is at the bottom of need list..

Every other position has more priority..

Kicker is a bigger need..
QBOTF is a bigger need..

A god damn strong interior guard is a waaaaaay bigger need...

Capeesh?

Nope no Capeeshing. Sure a strong guard is a bigger need. If the value is equal take the guard. However, we have one NFL calibre starting LB. That isn't enough. I don't know where you get the idea that one LB is enough.

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 4/30/2021 8:21:13 PM

David F.

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It's reaching the point where trading up from 66 no longer makes sense - which probably means it wasn't wise all along. Trading up from 78 now though... might be a different story.

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I wouldn't give ANY qb $30-50+ mil unless that QB had won me a Super Bowl. Did you win a Super Bowl on your rookie deal? Yes? Great! Here's your hugenormous contract. F it let's just run victory laps and love life. No? Good luck. Next!

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 4/30/2021 8:21:36 PM

Daniel Lee Young

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**** value.. **** it..

Value?

Who the **** are you? Sam Walton?

**** value get the players you need at any cost..

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 4/30/2021 8:22:18 PM

David F.

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It's reaching the point where trading up from 66 no longer makes sense - which probably means it wasn't wise all along. Trading up from 78 now though... might be a different story.

Wow did I jinx that.

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I wouldn't give ANY qb $30-50+ mil unless that QB had won me a Super Bowl. Did you win a Super Bowl on your rookie deal? Yes? Great! Here's your hugenormous contract. F it let's just run victory laps and love life. No? Good luck. Next!

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 4/30/2021 8:23:24 PM

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Capisco the need for a guard. But who is worth a high third round pick? Meinerz or Humphrey? Or someone else?

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 4/30/2021 8:23:35 PM

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**** value.. **** it..

Value?

Who the **** are you? Sam Walton?

**** value get the players you need at any cost..

That kind of thinking leads to the Herschel Walker trade. How did that work out?

< Message edited by kgdabom -- 4/30/2021 8:25:34 PM >

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 4/30/2021 8:25:14 PM

David F.

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The worst place for a battle for the last word is in a realtime thread. Accept it for what it is, let go, and move on please.

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I wouldn't give ANY qb $30-50+ mil unless that QB had won me a Super Bowl. Did you win a Super Bowl on your rookie deal? Yes? Great! Here's your hugenormous contract. F it let's just run victory laps and love life. No? Good luck. Next!

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 4/30/2021 8:25:20 PM

joejitsu

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Four picks away. I hope we end up with a bully at guard.

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 4/30/2021 8:25:32 PM

Daniel Lee Young

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We’re you even born yet?

I think that throwing “ herscal walker” out there show me that you thinkI am stupid.

GFYS block boy

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 4/30/2021 8:26:44 PM

joejitsu

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Geez. That schrager guy has a punchable face.

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 4/30/2021 8:26:56 PM

David F.

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There's still Meinerz and Wyatt Davis for guards, plenty of QBs, and some DEs. I'm getting nervous now though.

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I wouldn't give ANY qb $30-50+ mil unless that QB had won me a Super Bowl. Did you win a Super Bowl on your rookie deal? Yes? Great! Here's your hugenormous contract. F it let's just run victory laps and love life. No? Good luck. Next!

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 4/30/2021 8:27:32 PM

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Crud crud crud. There goes Humphrey.

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 4/30/2021 8:27:35 PM

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Had the Vikings reached for someone, I would have disliked the trade. But they got what I think will be a great player at a position of need, AND picked up 2 3rds.

I LOVED that trade !!!

Yes they didn't get a 2nd, that to me would have been slightly better, but not if they made a bad pick with the 2nd rounder.

2 3rds is the same value as a 2nd, and I think they'll probably pick a good, or even great player with one of them. One will likely be a bust.

It's not like they got 2 6th round picks, 2 3rds could be nice, plenty of talent still out there.

I think Koramoah would have been a great addition.

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 4/30/2021 8:28:00 PM

Daniel Lee Young

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Over half the round went OL.

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