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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

I hope none of the people who are saying that Hunter is being a dick or even unreasonable for wanting to capture the value he's exceeded are people who also get mad at Kirk for having an all-guaranteed contract. If the NFL would just have two-way guarantees on all contracts (instead of just the guarantee for the team), which they can easily do with their public subsidies and monster revenues, all of this would be avoided.

I don't want the bulk of my cap space tied up into two players, one who has been receiving elite QB money while not being elite ... the other a rising star at DE that is now sidelined or toothless because of neck issues.

The neck issues probably won't come to pass – that's a worst case scenario. But I'm not going to risk it or send the franchise back into cap strapped hell because Hunter signed a piss poor deal. We are just slowly oozing our way out of it.

Be responsible to the franchise (which is currently 89 CBs and no-show Hunter), make Hunter demonstrate he's healthy and then negotiate in good faith. The wink-wink-nudge-nudge that Brez and Spiels exchanged behind Hunter while he inked his deal tells you they new the deal was not going to last.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

I hope none of the people who are saying that Hunter is being a dick or even unreasonable for wanting to capture the value he's exceeded are people who also get mad at Kirk for having an all-guaranteed contract. If the NFL would just have two-way guarantees on all contracts (instead of just the guarantee for the team), which they can easily do with their public subsidies and monster revenues, all of this would be avoided.

Players have guaranteed money. It's called a signing bonus. Any agent worth shit will get the the player their fair value in the signing bonus. So far I think Hunter has been more than fairly compensated for one season of play.

Hunter signed his current deal in2018.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

I hope none of the people who are saying that Hunter is being a dick or even unreasonable for wanting to capture the value he's exceeded are people who also get mad at Kirk for having an all-guaranteed contract. If the NFL would just have two-way guarantees on all contracts (instead of just the guarantee for the team), which they can easily do with their public subsidies and monster revenues, all of this would be avoided.

Players have guaranteed money. It's called a signing bonus. Any agent worth shit will get the the player their fair value in the signing bonus. So far I think Hunter has been more than fairly compensated for one season of play.

Hunter signed his current deal in2018.

2 years of pay, one year of play.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

I hope none of the people who are saying that Hunter is being a dick or even unreasonable for wanting to capture the value he's exceeded are people who also get mad at Kirk for having an all-guaranteed contract. If the NFL would just have two-way guarantees on all contracts (instead of just the guarantee for the team), which they can easily do with their public subsidies and monster revenues, all of this would be avoided.

Players have guaranteed money. It's called a signing bonus. Any agent worth shit will get the the player their fair value in the signing bonus. So far I think Hunter has been more than fairly compensated for one season of play.

Hunter signed his current deal in2018.

2 years of pay, one year of play.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

I hope none of the people who are saying that Hunter is being a dick or even unreasonable for wanting to capture the value he's exceeded are people who also get mad at Kirk for having an all-guaranteed contract. If the NFL would just have two-way guarantees on all contracts (instead of just the guarantee for the team), which they can easily do with their public subsidies and monster revenues, all of this would be avoided.

Players have guaranteed money. It's called a signing bonus. Any agent worth shit will get the the player their fair value in the signing bonus. So far I think Hunter has been more than fairly compensated for one season of play.

Hunter signed his current deal in2018.

2 years of pay, one year of play.

Yes, the gold brick took a year off.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

I hope none of the people who are saying that Hunter is being a dick or even unreasonable for wanting to capture the value he's exceeded are people who also get mad at Kirk for having an all-guaranteed contract. If the NFL would just have two-way guarantees on all contracts (instead of just the guarantee for the team), which they can easily do with their public subsidies and monster revenues, all of this would be avoided.

Players have guaranteed money. It's called a signing bonus. Any agent worth shit will get the the player their fair value in the signing bonus. So far I think Hunter has been more than fairly compensated for one season of play.

Hunter signed his current deal in2018.

2 years of pay, one year of play.

Yes, the gold brick took a year off.

Once again - he signed his extension in 2018. If we’re insisting on this goofy x years of pay x years of play thingy then it’s two years of play, three years of pay. Two seasons of elite play. Can we count his first three years where he made under $2 million total for all three years combined?

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

I hope none of the people who are saying that Hunter is being a dick or even unreasonable for wanting to capture the value he's exceeded are people who also get mad at Kirk for having an all-guaranteed contract. If the NFL would just have two-way guarantees on all contracts (instead of just the guarantee for the team), which they can easily do with their public subsidies and monster revenues, all of this would be avoided.

Players have guaranteed money. It's called a signing bonus. Any agent worth shit will get the the player their fair value in the signing bonus. So far I think Hunter has been more than fairly compensated for one season of play.

Hunter signed his current deal in2018.

2 years of pay, one year of play.

Yes, the gold brick took a year off.

Once again - he signed his extension in 2018. If we’re insisting on this goofy x years of pay x years of play thingy then it’s two years of play, three years of pay. Two seasons of elite play. Can we count his first three years where he made under $2 million total for all three years combined?

In 2018, he signed a 5 year contract that covers years 2019-2023.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

I hope none of the people who are saying that Hunter is being a dick or even unreasonable for wanting to capture the value he's exceeded are people who also get mad at Kirk for having an all-guaranteed contract. If the NFL would just have two-way guarantees on all contracts (instead of just the guarantee for the team), which they can easily do with their public subsidies and monster revenues, all of this would be avoided.

Players have guaranteed money. It's called a signing bonus. Any agent worth shit will get the the player their fair value in the signing bonus. So far I think Hunter has been more than fairly compensated for one season of play.

Hunter signed his current deal in2018.

2 years of pay, one year of play.

Yes, the gold brick took a year off.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

I hope none of the people who are saying that Hunter is being a dick or even unreasonable for wanting to capture the value he's exceeded are people who also get mad at Kirk for having an all-guaranteed contract. If the NFL would just have two-way guarantees on all contracts (instead of just the guarantee for the team), which they can easily do with their public subsidies and monster revenues, all of this would be avoided.

Players have guaranteed money. It's called a signing bonus. Any agent worth shit will get the the player their fair value in the signing bonus. So far I think Hunter has been more than fairly compensated for one season of play.

Hunter signed his current deal in2018.

2 years of pay, one year of play.

Yes, the gold brick took a year off.

Once again - he signed his extension in 2018. If we’re insisting on this goofy x years of pay x years of play thingy then it’s two years of play, three years of pay. Two seasons of elite play. Can we count his first three years where he made under $2 million total for all three years combined?

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

I hope none of the people who are saying that Hunter is being a dick or even unreasonable for wanting to capture the value he's exceeded are people who also get mad at Kirk for having an all-guaranteed contract. If the NFL would just have two-way guarantees on all contracts (instead of just the guarantee for the team), which they can easily do with their public subsidies and monster revenues, all of this would be avoided.

Players have guaranteed money. It's called a signing bonus. Any agent worth shit will get the the player their fair value in the signing bonus. So far I think Hunter has been more than fairly compensated for one season of play.

Hunter signed his current deal in2018.

2 years of pay, one year of play.

Yes, the gold brick took a year off.

Once again - he signed his extension in 2018. If we’re insisting on this goofy x years of pay x years of play thingy then it’s two years of play, three years of pay. Two seasons of elite play. Can we count his first three years where he made under $2 million total for all three years combined?

We are talking about his contract. He is two years into it with one year of play.

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

I hope none of the people who are saying that Hunter is being a dick or even unreasonable for wanting to capture the value he's exceeded are people who also get mad at Kirk for having an all-guaranteed contract. If the NFL would just have two-way guarantees on all contracts (instead of just the guarantee for the team), which they can easily do with their public subsidies and monster revenues, all of this would be avoided.

FWIW, I hate the albatross that is Kirk Cousins contract.

Do you blame Kirk? Do you feel like the players should just appreciate whatever the owners are willing to give them while the owners get cost certainty?

Until they guarantee 100% of all player contracts, the owners are perpetrating an injustice, IMO. The have guaranteed revenue streams when they enter into contracts; why shouldn't the players? And how can you blame someone for fighting against that injustice?

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

I hope none of the people who are saying that Hunter is being a dick or even unreasonable for wanting to capture the value he's exceeded are people who also get mad at Kirk for having an all-guaranteed contract. If the NFL would just have two-way guarantees on all contracts (instead of just the guarantee for the team), which they can easily do with their public subsidies and monster revenues, all of this would be avoided.

FWIW, I hate the albatross that is Kirk Cousins contract.

Do you blame Kirk? Do you feel like the players should just appreciate whatever the owners are willing to give them while the owners get cost certainty?

Until they guarantee 100% of all player contracts, the owners are perpetrating an injustice, IMO. The have guaranteed revenue streams when they enter into contracts; why shouldn't the players? And how can you blame someone for fighting against that injustice?

Are you familiar with the NBA and MLB? They have guaranteed contracts and it creates a lot of different problems.

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

I hope none of the people who are saying that Hunter is being a dick or even unreasonable for wanting to capture the value he's exceeded are people who also get mad at Kirk for having an all-guaranteed contract. If the NFL would just have two-way guarantees on all contracts (instead of just the guarantee for the team), which they can easily do with their public subsidies and monster revenues, all of this would be avoided.

FWIW, I hate the albatross that is Kirk Cousins contract.

Do you blame Kirk? Do you feel like the players should just appreciate whatever the owners are willing to give them while the owners get cost certainty?

Until they guarantee 100% of all player contracts, the owners are perpetrating an injustice, IMO. The have guaranteed revenue streams when they enter into contracts; why shouldn't the players? And how can you blame someone for fighting against that injustice?

Are you familiar with the NBA and MLB? They have guaranteed contracts and it creates a lot of different problems.

For whom? The players keep all of the money from their contracts, the teams make money, the franchises appreciate in value....what's the problem?

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

I hope none of the people who are saying that Hunter is being a dick or even unreasonable for wanting to capture the value he's exceeded are people who also get mad at Kirk for having an all-guaranteed contract. If the NFL would just have two-way guarantees on all contracts (instead of just the guarantee for the team), which they can easily do with their public subsidies and monster revenues, all of this would be avoided.

Players have guaranteed money. It's called a signing bonus. Any agent worth shit will get the the player their fair value in the signing bonus. So far I think Hunter has been more than fairly compensated for one season of play.

Hunter signed his current deal in2018.

2 years of pay, one year of play.

Yes, the gold brick took a year off.

Once again - he signed his extension in 2018. If we’re insisting on this goofy x years of pay x years of play thingy then it’s two years of play, three years of pay. Two seasons of elite play. Can we count his first three years where he made under $2 million total for all three years combined?

We are talking about his contract. He is two years into it with one year of play.

Well since they paid him $17.4 million in 2018 I guess by your way of thinking he’s actually been paid for three years but only played one.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

I hope none of the people who are saying that Hunter is being a dick or even unreasonable for wanting to capture the value he's exceeded are people who also get mad at Kirk for having an all-guaranteed contract. If the NFL would just have two-way guarantees on all contracts (instead of just the guarantee for the team), which they can easily do with their public subsidies and monster revenues, all of this would be avoided.

FWIW, I hate the albatross that is Kirk Cousins contract.

Do you blame Kirk? Do you feel like the players should just appreciate whatever the owners are willing to give them while the owners get cost certainty?

Until they guarantee 100% of all player contracts, the owners are perpetrating an injustice, IMO. The have guaranteed revenue streams when they enter into contracts; why shouldn't the players? And how can you blame someone for fighting against that injustice?

Are you familiar with the NBA and MLB? They have guaranteed contracts and it creates a lot of different problems.

For whom? The players keep all of the money from their contracts, the teams make money, the franchises appreciate in value....what's the problem?

Inmates then run the asylum. When a star player doesn't like the coach it's easier for the owner to fire the coach than trade the player. It often creates insubordination.

There's a reason why the NFL is king. The root of it is nonguaranteed contracts.

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

I hope none of the people who are saying that Hunter is being a dick or even unreasonable for wanting to capture the value he's exceeded are people who also get mad at Kirk for having an all-guaranteed contract. If the NFL would just have two-way guarantees on all contracts (instead of just the guarantee for the team), which they can easily do with their public subsidies and monster revenues, all of this would be avoided.

FWIW, I hate the albatross that is Kirk Cousins contract.

Do you blame Kirk? Do you feel like the players should just appreciate whatever the owners are willing to give them while the owners get cost certainty?

Until they guarantee 100% of all player contracts, the owners are perpetrating an injustice, IMO. The have guaranteed revenue streams when they enter into contracts; why shouldn't the players? And how can you blame someone for fighting against that injustice?

Are you familiar with the NBA and MLB? They have guaranteed contracts and it creates a lot of different problems.

For whom? The players keep all of the money from their contracts, the teams make money, the franchises appreciate in value....what's the problem?

Inmates then run the asylum. When a star player doesn't like the coach it's easier for the owner to fire the coach than trade the player. It often creates insubordination.

There's a reason why the NFL is king. The root of it is nonguaranteed contracts.

The inmates? Plantation mentality much, Bill?

Name a time one player got a coach fired.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

I hope none of the people who are saying that Hunter is being a dick or even unreasonable for wanting to capture the value he's exceeded are people who also get mad at Kirk for having an all-guaranteed contract. If the NFL would just have two-way guarantees on all contracts (instead of just the guarantee for the team), which they can easily do with their public subsidies and monster revenues, all of this would be avoided.

Players have guaranteed money. It's called a signing bonus. Any agent worth shit will get the the player their fair value in the signing bonus. So far I think Hunter has been more than fairly compensated for one season of play.

Hunter signed his current deal in2018.

2 years of pay, one year of play.

Yes, the gold brick took a year off.

Once again - he signed his extension in 2018. If we’re insisting on this goofy x years of pay x years of play thingy then it’s two years of play, three years of pay. Two seasons of elite play. Can we count his first three years where he made under $2 million total for all three years combined?

We are talking about his contract. He is two years into it with one year of play.

Well since they paid him $17.4 million in 2018 I guess by your way of thinking he’s actually been paid for three years but only played one.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

I hope none of the people who are saying that Hunter is being a dick or even unreasonable for wanting to capture the value he's exceeded are people who also get mad at Kirk for having an all-guaranteed contract. If the NFL would just have two-way guarantees on all contracts (instead of just the guarantee for the team), which they can easily do with their public subsidies and monster revenues, all of this would be avoided.

FWIW, I hate the albatross that is Kirk Cousins contract.

Do you blame Kirk? Do you feel like the players should just appreciate whatever the owners are willing to give them while the owners get cost certainty?

Until they guarantee 100% of all player contracts, the owners are perpetrating an injustice, IMO. The have guaranteed revenue streams when they enter into contracts; why shouldn't the players? And how can you blame someone for fighting against that injustice?

Are you familiar with the NBA and MLB? They have guaranteed contracts and it creates a lot of different problems.

For whom? The players keep all of the money from their contracts, the teams make money, the franchises appreciate in value....what's the problem?

Inmates then run the asylum. When a star player doesn't like the coach it's easier for the owner to fire the coach than trade the player. It often creates insubordination.

There's a reason why the NFL is king. The root of it is nonguaranteed contracts.

The inmates? Plantation mentality much, Bill?

Name a time one player got a coach fired.

Just a phrase or saying. No disrespect to anybody or whatever.

Coaches don't get fired in the NFL if there is a rift between him and one player. That's my point. The player goes. However, it happens in the NBA. LeBron had at least one if not two coaches ousted in his career.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

I hope none of the people who are saying that Hunter is being a dick or even unreasonable for wanting to capture the value he's exceeded are people who also get mad at Kirk for having an all-guaranteed contract. If the NFL would just have two-way guarantees on all contracts (instead of just the guarantee for the team), which they can easily do with their public subsidies and monster revenues, all of this would be avoided.

I don't want the bulk of my cap space tied up into two players, one who has been receiving elite QB money while not being elite ... the other a rising star at DE that is now sidelined or toothless because of neck issues.

The neck issues probably won't come to pass – that's a worst case scenario. But I'm not going to risk it or send the franchise back into cap strapped hell because Hunter signed a piss poor deal. We are just slowly oozing our way out of it.

Be responsible to the franchise (which is currently 89 CBs and no-show Hunter), make Hunter demonstrate he's healthy and then negotiate in good faith. The wink-wink-nudge-nudge that Brez and Spiels exchanged behind Hunter while he inked his deal tells you they new the deal was not going to last.

What wink-wink-nudge-nudge was that? Not sure why they would be wink-winking-nudge-nudging if they thought the contract would be a problem in short order.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

I hope none of the people who are saying that Hunter is being a dick or even unreasonable for wanting to capture the value he's exceeded are people who also get mad at Kirk for having an all-guaranteed contract. If the NFL would just have two-way guarantees on all contracts (instead of just the guarantee for the team), which they can easily do with their public subsidies and monster revenues, all of this would be avoided.

Players have guaranteed money. It's called a signing bonus. Any agent worth shit will get the the player their fair value in the signing bonus. So far I think Hunter has been more than fairly compensated for one season of play.

Hunter signed his current deal in2018.

2 years of pay, one year of play.

Yes, the gold brick took a year off.

Once again - he signed his extension in 2018. If we’re insisting on this goofy x years of pay x years of play thingy then it’s two years of play, three years of pay. Two seasons of elite play. Can we count his first three years where he made under $2 million total for all three years combined?

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

I hope none of the people who are saying that Hunter is being a dick or even unreasonable for wanting to capture the value he's exceeded are people who also get mad at Kirk for having an all-guaranteed contract. If the NFL would just have two-way guarantees on all contracts (instead of just the guarantee for the team), which they can easily do with their public subsidies and monster revenues, all of this would be avoided.

Players have guaranteed money. It's called a signing bonus. Any agent worth shit will get the the player their fair value in the signing bonus. So far I think Hunter has been more than fairly compensated for one season of play.

Hunter signed his current deal in2018.

2 years of pay, one year of play.

Yes, the gold brick took a year off.

Once again - he signed his extension in 2018. If we’re insisting on this goofy x years of pay x years of play thingy then it’s two years of play, three years of pay. Two seasons of elite play. Can we count his first three years where he made under $2 million total for all three years combined?

Exactly. People are grinding on him being paid while he was injured and that couldn't be more irrelevant. When players go on IR they get paid. Barr missed 14 games last year. He still got paid. It's in the CBA. It has nothing to do with contract talks.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

I hope none of the people who are saying that Hunter is being a dick or even unreasonable for wanting to capture the value he's exceeded are people who also get mad at Kirk for having an all-guaranteed contract. If the NFL would just have two-way guarantees on all contracts (instead of just the guarantee for the team), which they can easily do with their public subsidies and monster revenues, all of this would be avoided.

Players have guaranteed money. It's called a signing bonus. Any agent worth shit will get the the player their fair value in the signing bonus. So far I think Hunter has been more than fairly compensated for one season of play.

Hunter signed his current deal in2018.

2 years of pay, one year of play.

Yes, the gold brick took a year off.

Once again - he signed his extension in 2018. If we’re insisting on this goofy x years of pay x years of play thingy then it’s two years of play, three years of pay. Two seasons of elite play. Can we count his first three years where he made under $2 million total for all three years combined?

We are talking about his contract. He is two years into it with one year of play.

Well since they paid him $17.4 million in 2018 I guess by your way of thinking he’s actually been paid for three years but only played one.

my guess is the new contract/extension didn't kick in until 2019 as that teams usually do lock up good players a year before their rookie deal runs out. However, they still have to run the course of the rookie deal in it's entirety. Might even be a mandatory NFL rule.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

I hope none of the people who are saying that Hunter is being a dick or even unreasonable for wanting to capture the value he's exceeded are people who also get mad at Kirk for having an all-guaranteed contract. If the NFL would just have two-way guarantees on all contracts (instead of just the guarantee for the team), which they can easily do with their public subsidies and monster revenues, all of this would be avoided.

Players have guaranteed money. It's called a signing bonus. Any agent worth shit will get the the player their fair value in the signing bonus. So far I think Hunter has been more than fairly compensated for one season of play.

Hunter signed his current deal in2018.

2 years of pay, one year of play.

Yes, the gold brick took a year off.

Once again - he signed his extension in 2018. If we’re insisting on this goofy x years of pay x years of play thingy then it’s two years of play, three years of pay. Two seasons of elite play. Can we count his first three years where he made under $2 million total for all three years combined?

Exactly. People are grinding on him being paid while he was injured and that couldn't be more irrelevant. When players go on IR they get paid. Barr missed 14 games last year. He still got paid. It's in the CBA. It has nothing to do with contract talks.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Hunter is free to hold out and not do his job, just as his employer is free to fine him, collect a pro-rated portion of previously paid guaranteed money, and/or 'fire' him. The so-called contract is about transfer of funds and relatively meaningless from the employment angle.