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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: marty

Well right now, I am glad the Vikings didn't trade for Deshaun Watson, considering he has 13 sexual conduct lawsuits [SCL] against him.

SCLs might be worse than ACL problems.

Remember when Peyton Manning was accused of the exact same thing?

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: marty

Well right now, I am glad the Vikings didn't trade for Deshaun Watson, considering he has 13 sexual conduct lawsuits [SCL] against him.

SCLs might be worse than ACL problems.

Remember when Peyton Manning was accused of the exact same thing?

There was one sexual misconduct allegation made against Manning. There are currently 13 against Watson including one full on assault. Don't get me wrong, one is too many. Thirteen is an awful lot of smoke for there to be no fire. This isn't going to get swept under the rug. The climate is a lot different in 2021 than it was in 1996.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: marty

Well right now, I am glad the Vikings didn't trade for Deshaun Watson, considering he has 13 sexual conduct lawsuits [SCL] against him.

SCLs might be worse than ACL problems.

Remember when Peyton Manning was accused of the exact same thing?

There was one sexual misconduct allegation made against Manning. There are currently 13 against Watson including one full on assault. Don't get me wrong, one is too many. Thirteen is an awful lot of smoke for there to be no fire. This isn't going to get swept under the rug. The climate is a lot different in 2021 than it was in 1996.

There are not a lot of people coming out and defending him(Watson).

Although, defending him is dangerous in today's climate. That could be held against a person.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: marty

Well right now, I am glad the Vikings didn't trade for Deshaun Watson, considering he has 13 sexual conduct lawsuits [SCL] against him.

SCLs might be worse than ACL problems.

Remember when Peyton Manning was accused of the exact same thing?

There was one sexual misconduct allegation made against Manning. There are currently 13 against Watson including one full on assault. Don't get me wrong, one is too many. Thirteen is an awful lot of smoke for there to be no fire. This isn't going to get swept under the rug. The climate is a lot different in 2021 than it was in 1996.

There are not a lot of people coming out and defending him(Watson).

Although, defending him is dangerous in today's climate. That could be held against a person.

It really only takes one allegation and every women he's ever known will try to jump on the money train.

From what I've heard Watson has impeccable character. But then again I don't think anything that exits Dabbo's mouth is entirely truthful.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

At this point LT has to be the #1 priority. I know we do have some options for moving O'Neal or Ezra over there.

A trade for Orlando Brown appears to have stalled due to balt's asking price.

I think a Slater or Darrisaw will fall to #14 but that's a bit of a gamble.

Vera Tucker or Cosmi are not bad options either.

Loaded OLine draft. We have to take advantage.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: marty

Well right now, I am glad the Vikings didn't trade for Deshaun Watson, considering he has 13 sexual conduct lawsuits [SCL] against him.

SCLs might be worse than ACL problems.

Remember when Peyton Manning was accused of the exact same thing?

There was one sexual misconduct allegation made against Manning. There are currently 13 against Watson including one full on assault. Don't get me wrong, one is too many. Thirteen is an awful lot of smoke for there to be no fire. This isn't going to get swept under the rug. The climate is a lot different in 2021 than it was in 1996.

There are not a lot of people coming out and defending him(Watson).

Although, defending him is dangerous in today's climate. That could be held against a person.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: marty

Well right now, I am glad the Vikings didn't trade for Deshaun Watson, considering he has 13 sexual conduct lawsuits [SCL] against him.

SCLs might be worse than ACL problems.

Remember when Peyton Manning was accused of the exact same thing?

There was one sexual misconduct allegation made against Manning. There are currently 13 against Watson including one full on assault. Don't get me wrong, one is too many. Thirteen is an awful lot of smoke for there to be no fire. This isn't going to get swept under the rug. The climate is a lot different in 2021 than it was in 1996.

There are not a lot of people coming out and defending him(Watson).

Although, defending him is dangerous in today's climate. That could be held against a person.

Depends on who your defending

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

At this point LT has to be the #1 priority. I know we do have some options for moving O'Neal or Ezra over there.

A trade for Orlando Brown appears to have stalled due to balt's asking price.

I think a Slater or Darrisaw will fall to #14 but that's a bit of a gamble.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

I suppose Trai Turner or Lane Taylor, if healthy, would be better on paper than Kline who is, unfortunately, our gold OG standard during the Zimmer reign.

So there's that. Maybe they bank on proving their health in 2021 on the cheap.

I think Spielman is the only person who perks up his ears when he hears the term, 'injury ravaged'. Similar to the 'squirrel' dog thing.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

I suppose Trai Turner or Lane Taylor, if healthy, would be better on paper than Kline who is, unfortunately, our gold OG standard during the Zimmer reign.

So there's that. Maybe they bank on proving their health in 2021 on the cheap.

I think Spielman is the only person who perks up his ears when he hears the term, 'injury ravaged'. Similar to the 'squirrel' dog thing.

I like the idea of a 1 yr, no guarantee, heavily incentive laden contract on Lane Taylor.

I am more indifferent to Lamp, but don't object to signing him as long as it's not a multiyear contract. Rather see him stay healthy and prove it.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

I suppose Trai Turner or Lane Taylor, if healthy, would be better on paper than Kline who is, unfortunately, our gold OG standard during the Zimmer reign.

So there's that. Maybe they bank on proving their health in 2021 on the cheap.

I think Spielman is the only person who perks up his ears when he hears the term, 'injury ravaged'. Similar to the 'squirrel' dog thing.

I like the idea of a 1 yr, no guarantee, heavily incentive laden contract on Lane Taylor.

I am more indifferent to Lamp, but don't object to signing him as long as it's not a multiyear contract. Rather see him stay healthy and prove it.

sign turner/taylor and then lamp at minimum wage...we don't even have a backup guard right now....

i can't believe that spielman has waited this long without addressing guard - some vikings' journalist needs to call him out - get it out there in writing somewhere...fans need to throw freak fits on twitter...somebody needs to kidnap spielman....

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There’s a snag in the #Giants’ addition of TE Kyle Rudolph. Sources say the team’s medical staff is concerned with Rudolph’s foot after his physical and believes he’ll need surgery. The sides are discussing how to proceed. The two-year deal was agreed to but not yet signed.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

At this point LT has to be the #1 priority. I know we do have some options for moving O'Neal or Ezra over there.

A trade for Orlando Brown appears to have stalled due to balt's asking price.

I think a Slater or Darrisaw will fall to #14 but that's a bit of a gamble.

I view LT exactly the same as I did after the draft last year. I would be very ok if we didn't trade for a T, sign 1, or draft one in the first two rounds.

Same reasons why I thought we should cut Reiff last year prior to the season. I don't want the cost of a vet T, or to give up draft picks/players. We still have to resign Oneill, and while getting through this and next year caps crisis, spending a lot money on LT isn't worth it to me.

We have Ezra - athletic skills and showed progress out of position (imo) at guard. We have ONeill, former LT, and we have Udoh. If Ezra was inserted at LT and bombed (unlikely imo) we have Hill on the roster whose shown he can be at minimum "not a train wreck". Or if Udoh shows he can handle RT, there's another option (moving Oneill to LT).

We still have literally nothing at guard. Hyperbole, I'd like to see Udoh given a chance at RG, and curious to see Hinton but it's not much of an exaggeration AND have no safety net (like Hill at T).

I view Guard, Safety, and DE as bigger needs than LT. I really hope we don't give up assets for Brown Jr (or trade for a T) and then have to sign him to a massive extension.

But it's the Vikings which means they'll do something exactly along these lines.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

At this point LT has to be the #1 priority. I know we do have some options for moving O'Neal or Ezra over there.

A trade for Orlando Brown appears to have stalled due to balt's asking price.

I think a Slater or Darrisaw will fall to #14 but that's a bit of a gamble.

I view LT exactly the same as I did after the draft last year. I would be very ok if we didn't trade for a T, sign 1, or draft one in the first two rounds.

Same reasons why I thought we should cut Reiff last year prior to the season. I don't want the cost of a vet T, or to give up draft picks/players. We still have to resign Oneill, and while getting through this and next year caps crisis, spending a lot money on LT isn't worth it to me.

We have Ezra - athletic skills and showed progress out of position (imo) at guard. We have ONeill, former LT, and we have Udoh. If Ezra was inserted at LT and bombed (unlikely imo) we have Hill on the roster whose shown he can be at minimum "not a train wreck". Or if Udoh shows he can handle RT, there's another option (moving Oneill to LT).

We still have literally nothing at guard. Hyperbole, I'd like to see Udoh given a chance at RG, and curious to see Hinton but it's not much of an exaggeration AND have no safety net (like Hill at T).

I view Guard, Safety, and DE as bigger needs than LT. I really hope we don't give up assets for Brown Jr (or trade for a T) and then have to sign him to a massive extension.

But it's the Vikings which means they'll do something exactly along these lines.

LT is not a position to be toyed with nor fall asleep on. Not having a competent LT can derail a season by itself (see 2016) or TJ Clemmings.

I was wondering why Ezra wasn't given a chance to play LT week 17 when Reiff was put on covid list. This seemed liked a huge missed opportunity. Why play Hill a career backup?

This either was a complete oversight on our coaching staff or they have zero plans on playing Cleveland at LT. The evidence seems to point to this so we are either moving O'Neal over to LT or our future LT isn't on the roster yet.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

I thought we would have signed a FA guard after the big dollar first wave. GMs go into wait mode between flurries of signings to hopefully see agents panic and contract $ drop.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

At this point LT has to be the #1 priority. I know we do have some options for moving O'Neal or Ezra over there.

A trade for Orlando Brown appears to have stalled due to balt's asking price.

I think a Slater or Darrisaw will fall to #14 but that's a bit of a gamble.

I view LT exactly the same as I did after the draft last year. I would be very ok if we didn't trade for a T, sign 1, or draft one in the first two rounds.

Same reasons why I thought we should cut Reiff last year prior to the season. I don't want the cost of a vet T, or to give up draft picks/players. We still have to resign Oneill, and while getting through this and next year caps crisis, spending a lot money on LT isn't worth it to me.

We have Ezra - athletic skills and showed progress out of position (imo) at guard. We have ONeill, former LT, and we have Udoh. If Ezra was inserted at LT and bombed (unlikely imo) we have Hill on the roster whose shown he can be at minimum "not a train wreck". Or if Udoh shows he can handle RT, there's another option (moving Oneill to LT).

We still have literally nothing at guard. Hyperbole, I'd like to see Udoh given a chance at RG, and curious to see Hinton but it's not much of an exaggeration AND have no safety net (like Hill at T).

I view Guard, Safety, and DE as bigger needs than LT. I really hope we don't give up assets for Brown Jr (or trade for a T) and then have to sign him to a massive extension.

But it's the Vikings which means they'll do something exactly along these lines.

LT is not a position to be toyed with nor fall asleep on. Not having a competent LT can derail a season by itself (see 2016) or TJ Clemmings.

I was wondering why Ezra wasn't given a chance to play LT week 17 when Reiff was put on covid list. This seemed liked a huge missed opportunity. Why play Hill a career backup?

This either was a complete oversight on our coaching staff or they have zero plans on playing Cleveland at LT. The evidence seems to point to this so we are either moving O'Neal over to LT or our future LT isn't on the roster yet.

Not playing Erza for just the last game doesn't mean they have zero plans for him at LT. He would have had like two days practice at LT which is nothing. What realistic development or analysis can you get from that.

Plus RG would have been manned by..... nobody?