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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/12/2022 8:49:22 PM

hagar

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If the Wilfs are going to hire a HC 1st, I wouldn't be opposed to Kellen Moore...

I agree. He came from a program that thought outside the box offensively in college.
He's incredibly football smart, was a very well-respected team leader and was able
to easily execute complex play design. If he can carry this over to his coaching career
as the head guy he could be very successful. And he's young and innovative. Give the
guy a chance. Someone will.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/12/2022 8:50:40 PM

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I like the rumors of Doug Pederson to the Vikes. His offensive expertise and creativity with Cousins, Cook, JJ would incredible.
Brings a level of experience others don’t have.

Don't get the feeling Ben thinks he's gone ...

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/12/2022 9:45:44 PM

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Tom Pelissero of NFL Media reports that the Vikings want to talk to Patriots player personnel consultant Eliot Wolf and Browns executives Kwesi Adofo-Mensah and Glenn Cook. Wolf, Adofo-Mensah and Cook also are on the Bears’ list of candidates.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/01/12/report-vikings-request-interviews-with-three-g-m-candidates/

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/12/2022 9:51:27 PM

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Many are continuing to say Lane Kiffin is high on list of HC candidates as the Wilf's corporate jet was seen landing in Kiffen's zip code before flying on to the Twin Cities?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/13/2022 6:42:07 AM

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Many are continuing to say Lane Kiffin is high on list of HC candidates as the Wilf's corporate jet was seen landing in Kiffen's zip code before flying on to the Twin Cities?

I don't believe that.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/13/2022 7:16:13 AM 4 votes

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Many are continuing to say Lane Kiffin is high on list of HC candidates as the Wilf's corporate jet was seen landing in Kiffen's zip code before flying on to the Twin Cities?

Count me out on Lane Kiffin. The guy rarely lasts in one place for more than three years, because nobody likes him after one year. He's an arrogant, entitled little prick.

Can the guy coach? He's not bad. If you can stand his personality.

I'd actually like him more as the general manager. The guy can see talent and understands the game in 2021. Just don't put him in front of the microphone.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/13/2022 7:22:43 AM

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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: kevinemmer

If the Wilfs are going to hire a HC 1st, I wouldn't be opposed to Kellen Moore...

I agree. He came from a program that thought outside the box offensively in college.
He's incredibly football smart, was a very well-respected team leader and was able
to easily execute complex play design. If he can carry this over to his coaching career
as the head guy he could be very successful. And he's young and innovative. Give the
guy a chance. Someone will.

I'd be okay with Kellen Moore.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/13/2022 7:31:47 AM

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ORIGINAL: HL OSWALD

Many are continuing to say Lane Kiffin is high on list of HC candidates as the Wilf's corporate jet was seen landing in Kiffen's zip code before flying on to the Twin Cities?

I don't believe that.

Thank you! Every time I see that Im like, "That can't be for real!"

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/13/2022 7:33:39 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: hagar

quote:

ORIGINAL: kevinemmer

If the Wilfs are going to hire a HC 1st, I wouldn't be opposed to Kellen Moore...

I agree. He came from a program that thought outside the box offensively in college.
He's incredibly football smart, was a very well-respected team leader and was able
to easily execute complex play design. If he can carry this over to his coaching career
as the head guy he could be very successful. And he's young and innovative. Give the
guy a chance. Someone will.

I think the Wilf's said straight out that they are hiring a GM before the coach. I'm pretty sure they want the new GM to lead the coach search.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/13/2022 7:43:01 AM

Phil Riewer

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quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

quote:

ORIGINAL: hagar

quote:

ORIGINAL: kevinemmer

If the Wilfs are going to hire a HC 1st, I wouldn't be opposed to Kellen Moore...

I agree. He came from a program that thought outside the box offensively in college.
He's incredibly football smart, was a very well-respected team leader and was able
to easily execute complex play design. If he can carry this over to his coaching career
as the head guy he could be very successful. And he's young and innovative. Give the
guy a chance. Someone will.

I think the Wilf's said straight out that they are hiring a GM before the coach. I'm pretty sure they want the new GM to lead the coach search.

Sounds like Pederson will wait and see which GM...he knows he can coach this offense as is.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/13/2022 7:47:04 AM

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Ben Leber @nacholeber
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I like the rumors of Doug Pederson to the Vikes. His offensive expertise and creativity with Cousins, Cook, JJ would incredible.
Brings a level of experience others don’t have.

Don't get the feeling Ben thinks he's gone ...

Locked him in a motel room?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/13/2022 7:52:06 AM

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

Ben Leber @nacholeber
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I like the rumors of Doug Pederson to the Vikes. His offensive expertise and creativity with Cousins, Cook, JJ would incredible.
Brings a level of experience others don’t have.

Don't get the feeling Ben thinks he's gone ...

Locked him in a motel room?

Zulgad reports that sources tell him (Spot? Kitty?) Pederson maybe willing to wait for the Vikings to hire a GM.

John McMullen @JFMcMullen
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First woman in #NFL history to be requested for GM interview is the #Eagles’ Catherine Raiche. #Vikings

Today is the first I've heard of Raiche - I should keep up more. What are the chances these two end up together?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/13/2022 8:38:27 AM

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If the Wilfs don’t have a GM in place by Monday morning I will be disappointed.

They should have had a short list assembled after the horrible start to the season and had some back channel talks going since Thanksgiving.

They are morons if this process started just 4 days ago.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/13/2022 8:42:02 AM 3 votes

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Oh FFS…

The only thing Peterson brings to the table is a shitty record as a former QB, and the ability to spew Jesus crap as easily as Cousins.

He doesn’t impress me.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/13/2022 9:27:34 AM

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If the Wilfs don’t have a GM in place by Monday morning I will be disappointed.

They should have had a short list assembled after the horrible start to the season and had some back channel talks going since Thanksgiving.

They are morons if this process started just 4 days ago.

Has any team hired anyone yet?

We'll be alright.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/13/2022 9:51:18 AM

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Doug Pederson

No retreads please.

Kellen Moore.

Like this idea quite a bit.

Eric Bienemy

Former Vikes assistant, But color me tainted by previous Andy Reid tree Head coach that came here. and how much success was Mahomes improvising? I will point out that after a bad start this year the Chiefs offense turned it around after Mahomes started being forced to play with more patience. How much of that was Bienemy?

Leftwich

Benefitted from having a great coach/player on the field in Tom Brady. But I woudn't be opposed here.

Dabol

He has a great QB to work with and a lot of other talented players as well. But I am intrigued here as well. we have a QB great at amassing numbers but wilting when it matters most, but a lot of great skill players..

Anyone from the Belichik tree
Thusfar, From what I can remember there have been Five guys from Belichik's staff that went on to be Head Coaches somewhere else in the NFL. Charlie Weis, Romeo Crennell, Josh McDaniels, Eric Mangini and Joe Judge. None of them panned out so I would prefer to avoid any coach on Bill's current staff.

I am trying to keep an open mind so anyone they hire not named Steckel, Childress, Tice, Frazier Kubiak or Zimmer I will try not to be unhappy and hope for the best.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/13/2022 10:14:33 AM

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Nathaniel Hackett intrigues me too. Players rave about him as a coach and leader. He knows our top rival well as a bonus.

Just someone I hope we at least interview.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/13/2022 10:40:30 AM

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Lane Kiffin Gaining Steam As Vikings Head Coach Candidate
Uh oh! The Minnesota Vikings are looking at a college coach. We'll start, however, with some chat about the GM candidates the Vikings have requested interviews for so far. As of this recording, the Vikings have requested interviews from Kwesi Adofo-Mensah, Eliot Wolf & Glen Cook. Since this recording, the Vikings have requested interviews from Brandon Brown, Ryan Poles, John Spytek & Catherine Raiche that we know of. We'll catch up on that tomorrow.
On the head coaching front, the Vikings have been linked to Lane Kiffin by multiple reports.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/13/2022 11:38:20 AM

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Doug Pederson

No retreads please.

Kellen Moore.

Like this idea quite a bit.

Eric Bienemy

Former Vikes assistant, But color me tainted by previous Andy Reid tree Head coach that came here. and how much success was Mahomes improvising? I will point out that after a bad start this year the Chiefs offense turned it around after Mahomes started being forced to play with more patience. How much of that was Bienemy?

Leftwich

Benefitted from having a great coach/player on the field in Tom Brady. But I woudn't be opposed here.

Dabol

He has a great QB to work with and a lot of other talented players as well. But I am intrigued here as well. we have a QB great at amassing numbers but wilting when it matters most, but a lot of great skill players..

Anyone from the Belichik tree
Thusfar, From what I can remember there have been Five guys from Belichik's staff that went on to be Head Coaches somewhere else in the NFL. Charlie Weis, Romeo Crennell, Josh McDaniels, Eric Mangini and Joe Judge. None of them panned out so I would prefer to avoid any coach on Bill's current staff.

I am trying to keep an open mind so anyone they hire not named Steckel, Childress, Tice, Frazier Kubiak or Zimmer I will try not to be unhappy and hope for the best.

I don't think Pederson is a retread....I think he had conflicts with the GM and just two years after the mess that Chip Kelly built won the Super Bowl.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/13/2022 12:18:41 PM

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

Doug Pederson

No retreads please.

Kellen Moore.

Like this idea quite a bit.

Eric Bienemy

Former Vikes assistant, But color me tainted by previous Andy Reid tree Head coach that came here. and how much success was Mahomes improvising? I will point out that after a bad start this year the Chiefs offense turned it around after Mahomes started being forced to play with more patience. How much of that was Bienemy?

Leftwich

Benefitted from having a great coach/player on the field in Tom Brady. But I woudn't be opposed here.

Dabol

He has a great QB to work with and a lot of other talented players as well. But I am intrigued here as well. we have a QB great at amassing numbers but wilting when it matters most, but a lot of great skill players..

Anyone from the Belichik tree
Thusfar, From what I can remember there have been Five guys from Belichik's staff that went on to be Head Coaches somewhere else in the NFL. Charlie Weis, Romeo Crennell, Josh McDaniels, Eric Mangini and Joe Judge. None of them panned out so I would prefer to avoid any coach on Bill's current staff.

I am trying to keep an open mind so anyone they hire not named Steckel, Childress, Tice, Frazier Kubiak or Zimmer I will try not to be unhappy and hope for the best.

I don't think Pederson is a retread....I think he had conflicts with the GM and just two years after the mess that Chip Kelly built won the Super Bowl.

i agree...pederson is not a burnout that lost it...he did an incredible job with a 2nd string QB...he broke the vaunted zimmer 'double-A gap blitz' attack....

the problem with many of the others is they haven't been tested at the highest level of coaching - NFL head coach...what if they can't handle it?...they might suck at game management, too....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/13/2022 12:33:09 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

Doug Pederson

No retreads please.

Kellen Moore.

Like this idea quite a bit.

Eric Bienemy

Former Vikes assistant, But color me tainted by previous Andy Reid tree Head coach that came here. and how much success was Mahomes improvising? I will point out that after a bad start this year the Chiefs offense turned it around after Mahomes started being forced to play with more patience. How much of that was Bienemy?

Leftwich

Benefitted from having a great coach/player on the field in Tom Brady. But I woudn't be opposed here.

Dabol

He has a great QB to work with and a lot of other talented players as well. But I am intrigued here as well. we have a QB great at amassing numbers but wilting when it matters most, but a lot of great skill players..

Anyone from the Belichik tree
Thusfar, From what I can remember there have been Five guys from Belichik's staff that went on to be Head Coaches somewhere else in the NFL. Charlie Weis, Romeo Crennell, Josh McDaniels, Eric Mangini and Joe Judge. None of them panned out so I would prefer to avoid any coach on Bill's current staff.

I am trying to keep an open mind so anyone they hire not named Steckel, Childress, Tice, Frazier Kubiak or Zimmer I will try not to be unhappy and hope for the best.

I don't think Pederson is a retread....I think he had conflicts with the GM and just two years after the mess that Chip Kelly built won the Super Bowl.

i agree...pederson is not a burnout that lost it...he did an incredible job with a 2nd string QB...he broke the vaunted zimmer 'double-A gap blitz' attack....

the problem with many of the others is they haven't been tested at the highest level of coaching - NFL head coach...what if they can't handle it?...they might suck at game management, too....

Pretty aggressive when it comes to offense and 4th down decisions. Hopefully not dumb decisions like Zac Taylor and Brandon Staley.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/13/2022 2:58:36 PM

Phil Riewer

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

Doug Pederson

No retreads please.

Kellen Moore.

Like this idea quite a bit.

Eric Bienemy

Former Vikes assistant, But color me tainted by previous Andy Reid tree Head coach that came here. and how much success was Mahomes improvising? I will point out that after a bad start this year the Chiefs offense turned it around after Mahomes started being forced to play with more patience. How much of that was Bienemy?

Leftwich

Benefitted from having a great coach/player on the field in Tom Brady. But I woudn't be opposed here.

Dabol

He has a great QB to work with and a lot of other talented players as well. But I am intrigued here as well. we have a QB great at amassing numbers but wilting when it matters most, but a lot of great skill players..

Anyone from the Belichik tree
Thusfar, From what I can remember there have been Five guys from Belichik's staff that went on to be Head Coaches somewhere else in the NFL. Charlie Weis, Romeo Crennell, Josh McDaniels, Eric Mangini and Joe Judge. None of them panned out so I would prefer to avoid any coach on Bill's current staff.

I am trying to keep an open mind so anyone they hire not named Steckel, Childress, Tice, Frazier Kubiak or Zimmer I will try not to be unhappy and hope for the best.

I don't think Pederson is a retread....I think he had conflicts with the GM and just two years after the mess that Chip Kelly built won the Super Bowl.

i agree...pederson is not a burnout that lost it...he did an incredible job with a 2nd string QB...he broke the vaunted zimmer 'double-A gap blitz' attack....

the problem with many of the others is they haven't been tested at the highest level of coaching - NFL head coach...what if they can't handle it?...they might suck at game management, too....

Pretty aggressive when it comes to offense and 4th down decisions. Hopefully not dumb decisions like Zac Taylor and Brandon Staley.

He was pretty innovative with no RBs or WRs, a good te, and ok QB/Oline. I think we would be a top 3-5 offense and have a shot at it w/o changing personnel.

Wentz, Foles
Blount, Clement, Ajayi
Agholor, Smith, Jeffery
Ertz, Burton

He did a ton with less on offense---Bill Belichek ish and even beat the master in the game.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/13/2022 3:03:15 PM

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Also you look at Philly and that Owner GM always had the most cap space at the end of the year:

19: 28 million under
20: 21 million under
21: 17 million under
22: 13 million under

Pretty easy to see why he had a beef with the FO and owner....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2022 2:34:56 PM

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i just watched these highlights of week 17, 2012 - against the packers...i recommend it...22 minutes....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWFMNJiNyls

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2022 7:23:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: hagar

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ORIGINAL: kevinemmer

If the Wilfs are going to hire a HC 1st, I wouldn't be opposed to Kellen Moore...

I agree. He came from a program that thought outside the box offensively in college.
He's incredibly football smart, was a very well-respected team leader and was able
to easily execute complex play design. If he can carry this over to his coaching career
as the head guy he could be very successful. And he's young and innovative. Give the
guy a chance. Someone will.

I think the Wilf's said straight out that they are hiring a GM before the coach. I'm pretty sure they want the new GM to lead the coach search.