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luke keuckly says the Vikings may have the best secondary in the NFL 
https://twitter.com/VikesCentral/status/1524223308031475714
Guy got his bell rung way too many times.
No kidding. We don't even have the best secondary in the division.
Using PFF (or as I prefer, pffft!) which is barely accurate …
Last year our secondary was ranked #25, we dropped our two lowest performing players (Breeland, Alexander) and added our first two draft picks. We also added Sullivan but he's barely rated higher than Alexander. We are returning Peterson and Dantzler who is up and down (but actually rates higher than Peterson in pff). At Safety, Harry is rated #2 by pff (over-rated but still top 12 IMO) and we lost Woods who was barely ok ... with Bynum looking good in a very small sample size.
The Bears were ranked #23 and look very similar to us ...
they have a starting CB (Johnson 64.5) similarly ranked to Peterson's 63, although he is an improving 3rd yr player compared to our ancient-of-days. They also drafted a CB (Gordon) and S (Brisker) with their first two picks (2nd rd). I prefer our two picks (if Booth gets and stays healthy). Like Bynum, they have a couple of small sample size players (Burns, Graham) that look good (according to pff) so depth is probably too close to call. Their Safeties are rated #27 (Gipson) and #23 (Jackson) so we clearly have them there. I believe we have an edge but not by much (on paper).
The Packers were ranked #13 in the league and look better than us ...
That ranking was without their best CB most of the year (Alexander who is ranked as elite by pff) ... they should have him back. Their rookie starter Stokes played well by the end of the year, ranking in the top 10 CBs after week 12. Their other starter Douglas who signed mid-year played much better than expected and will also be back. Their Safeties are Amos (#9) and Savage (#18) ... who, in my uninformed opinion, are easily better than us unless Bynum or Cine shoot out of the gate at a really high level.
... that said, ranking secondaries in a vacuum doesn't mean a whole lot unless you take pass rush into account and we have a chance to be really good there.
I do believe that getting rid of Alexander and Breeland is a good thing plus signing a top 10 slot corner from GB is a good thing.....but I wouldn't put us in top 10 until we see how good Cine, Booth and Evans (maybe even Bynym) cover, how the new defense works, and how the pass rush is.
Lots of variables.
zimmer played such a soft prevent defense at the end of each half last season that one can't even consider the quality of our defense with normal metrics...plus zimmer keeping breeland in - danzler out, and his game management - zimmer was just psycho last season...i really think he lost his mind...if zimmer wasn't fired i can't imagine where we'd be right now....last year was like watching a nervous breakdown in slow motion - week by week.....
it's impossible to accurately analyze last year's team - zimmer never gave the offense or defense any chance to win....
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< Message edited by ratoppenheimer -- 5/12/2022 5:57:42 AM >
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