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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/5/2021 8:11:13 PM   
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If Mond or a rookie plays, and shows any promise, there is no reason why Theilen and JJ wouldn't stay, especially if they're getting paid.

Just get rid of Zimmer and trade Cousins, doesn't matter what you lose money wise, cut your loses, get rid of Kirk.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/5/2021 8:18:14 PM   
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We've seen enough of KC, we know he isn't clutch.

Start Mond next week, give him some experience, gives us more to evaluate on him.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/5/2021 8:27:40 PM   
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Teddy Bridgewater has more in game savvy than Kirk Cousins….

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/5/2021 8:30:46 PM   
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It is soo frustrating to watch teams that are better coached, and prepared, it seems like every team in the league has better coaching and position coaches..

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/5/2021 8:35:49 PM   
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From @ESPNStatsInfo: The Vikings blitzed Jared Goff on 14% of his dropbacks Sunday (6 of 43), the lowest blitz rate they've had against him.

Goff went 2-of-5 for 36 yards and took a sack against the blitz Sunday.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/5/2021 8:35:52 PM   
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That was bad coaching there… third down .. three guys going left, tried to go to the one guy on the right, who was doubled, then tried a 4-2 run.. in close quarters..

Not a great end to a really good drive, by Denver.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/5/2021 8:52:53 PM   
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Oh dear Tony Dungy just reviewed the last play of our game. He bursted out laughing asking “what kind of defense is that?”

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/5/2021 9:00:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

Oh dear Tony Dungy just reviewed the last play of our game. He bursted out laughing asking “what kind of defense is that?”

It's not just Tony Dungy. From the ESPN game story:

He (Goff) came through in the end, leading the long drive and delivering a sharp pass without pressure against a three-man rush to a rookie receiver, who took advantage of the Vikings secondary playing too deep in the end zone.

“It was actually crazy,” St. Brown said. “They were 3 or 4 yards in the end zone.”


Rookie wide receivers are laughing at Zimmer.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/5/2021 9:15:23 PM   
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As usual, Zimmer shat his pants when it was winning time. So tired of this Fake Tough Guy and his constant management that dictates all games will come down to the last possession, that he usually sucks at with his terrible decision making.

Not going after Goff when he absolutely sucks under pressure is absolutely unforgivable. He is worse than Dan Campbell, because at least Campbell can get his team up to play a meaningful game. He announced before the game that they were going to "play spoilers," and he got them up to do just that. They were winless; so easy for those players to not play hard and avoid injuries.

On the other hand, Zimmer and Kubiak come out tight and scared. This team has no sense of urgency, and no pride. Jefferson did everything he could, but he can't do it alone. So many selfish, leaderless and overpaid players on this team. Combine that with a clueless coaching staff, and you have a team just playing out the season.

Bench Kirk. Play Mond. Bench Bradbury. Play Cole. Bench Udoh. Play Davis.

Fire Zimmer

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/5/2021 9:16:58 PM   
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As usual, Zimmer shat his pants when it was winning time. So tired of this Fake Tough Guy and his constant management that dictates all games will come down to the last possession, that he usually sucks at with his terrible decision making.

Not going after Goff when he absolutely sucks under pressure is just unforgivable. He is worse than Dan Campbell, because at least Campbell can get his team up to play a meaningful game. He announced before the game that they were going to "play spoilers," and he got them up to do just that. They were winless; so easy for those players to not play hard and avoid injuries.

On the other hand, Zimmer and Kubiak come out tight and scared. This team has no sense of urgency, and no pride. Jefferson did everything he could, but he can't do it alone. So many selfish, leaderless and overpaid players on this team. Combine that with a clueless coaching staff, and you have a team just playing out the season.

Bench Kirk. Play Mond. Bench Bradbury. Play Cole. Bench Udoh. Play Davis.

Fire Zimmer


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/5/2021 9:18:24 PM   
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Sorry for the double post

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/5/2021 9:20:14 PM  1 votes
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

Oh dear Tony Dungy just reviewed the last play of our game. He bursted out laughing asking “what kind of defense is that?”

It's not just Tony Dungy. From the ESPN game story:

He (Goff) came through in the end, leading the long drive and delivering a sharp pass without pressure against a three-man rush to a rookie receiver, who took advantage of the Vikings secondary playing too deep in the end zone.

“It was actually crazy,” St. Brown said. “They were 3 or 4 yards in the end zone.”


Rookie wide receivers are laughing at Zimmer.

The Wilfs should be embarrassed

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/5/2021 9:29:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: marty

If Mond or a rookie plays, and shows any promise, there is no reason why Theilen and JJ wouldn't stay, especially if they're getting paid.

Just get rid of Zimmer and trade Cousins, doesn't matter what you lose money wise, cut your loses, get rid of Kirk.


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/5/2021 9:41:32 PM   
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Its beyond evident... Zimmer and Cousins are losers...

Thats a rather broad statement but its just real, no way around it, they never will have what it takes to excel and take this team further than average. Both have had plenty of chance to disprove their detractors, and cannot...

Zimmer LOSER

Cousins LOSER

final answer...
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/5/2021 9:45:56 PM   
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I take it back.. Bridgewater ain’t good…

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/5/2021 9:50:58 PM   
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Collinsworth talks KC Corner depth and says Mike Hughes is a good corner.

That comes from his incredible coaching in MN

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/5/2021 9:58:08 PM   
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I take it back.. Bridgewater ain’t good…

No he is not
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/5/2021 10:19:11 PM   
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I take it back.. Bridgewater ain’t good…

No he is not


Teddy isn’t great. And yet there they are with a better record than us. They don’t have a Jefferson / Thielen combo and they don’t have a dalvin cook. They’ve got Melvin Gordon and a rookie.

We have the same record as the falcons for crying out loud. They have Matt Ryan at the end of his career and cordarrel Patterson.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/5/2021 11:35:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

Oh dear Tony Dungy just reviewed the last play of our game. He bursted out laughing asking “what kind of defense is that?”

It's not just Tony Dungy. From the ESPN game story:

He (Goff) came through in the end, leading the long drive and delivering a sharp pass without pressure against a three-man rush to a rookie receiver, who took advantage of the Vikings secondary playing too deep in the end zone.

“It was actually crazy,” St. Brown said. “They were 3 or 4 yards in the end zone.”


Rookie wide receivers are laughing at Zimmer.

The Wilfs should be embarrassed


Hopefully getting embarrassed by the National media will be enough to finally make them pull the trigger.

Shame is a powerful thing.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/6/2021 5:34:17 AM   
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Fox radio overnight guy was ripping on Zimmer at 3am this morning.


Basically asking the same questions we are.

“What the hell was he thinking ?”
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/6/2021 6:50:43 AM   
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I hope Zimmer is fired today and then his girlfriend breaks up with him.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/6/2021 8:11:11 AM   
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We currently would have the 10th overall pick in next years draft. I’m thinking with our current level of play we could get that down to 4-6


Way to go Vikes. Your sucktitude has forced me into “next year “ mode

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/6/2021 8:53:43 AM   
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We currently would have the 10th overall pick in next years draft. I’m thinking with our current level of play we could get that down to 4-6


Way to go Vikes. Your sucktitude has forced me into “next year “ mode

Would really help to lose to Bears twice.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/6/2021 8:55:09 AM   
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I can't see more than 1 win in the next 5.

So whatever 6-11 gets us...
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/6/2021 8:58:19 AM   
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I hope Zimmer is fired today and then his girlfriend breaks up with him.

I would be shocked if Spielman came through on it right now (I'm checking the internet before posting this just to cover myself).

My expectation is the consideration has just started to dawn on Spielman after what can only be described as a seminal loss – by any standard.

The good news is, there is no more excuse or straight-faced deniability for this team ... Spielman has to fire Zimmer.

The bad news is, it might not happen until after the season.

The good news is, if Spielman doesn't cauterize this thing right now as he should, the thing will will spread and take him down as well. Hopefully.

< Message edited by Tom Sykes -- 12/6/2021 9:02:55 AM >
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