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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/23/2021 11:07:22 AM

Daniel Lee Young

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Top ten QB…..

LOFNL..

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32071373/nfl-quarterback-rankings-2021-how-all-32-teams-qbs-stack-weekly-big-takeaways

QB CURRENT
RANK PREV.
WEEK TREND QBR
Aaron Rodgers 1 1 67.2
Patrick Mahomes 2 2 58.2
Tom Brady 3 3 64.0
Justin Herbert 4 4 66.1
Josh Allen 5 5 57.6
Dak Prescott 6 7 47.3
Kyler Murray 7 6 56.1
Matthew Stafford 8 8 65.7
Joe Burrow 9 9 49.1
Russell Wilson 10 10 49.3
Derek Carr 11 13 53.3
Mac Jones 12 12 52.2
Lamar Jackson 13 11 50.1
Tua Tagovailoa 14 14 56.4
Carson Wentz 15 15 58.1
Kirk Cousins 16 17 52.3
Jimmy Garoppolo 17 19 54.2
Jalen Hurts 18 20 46.7
Ryan Tannehill 19 16 51.3
Matt Ryan 20 18 48.1
Trevor Lawrence 21 25 31.6
Baker Mayfield 22 26 38.7
Gardner Minshew 23 21 77.0
Taysom Hill 24 30 40.0
Tyler Huntley 25 32 58.8
Taylor Heinicke 26 22 46.0
Justin Fields 27 27 25.3
Case Keenum 28 -- 38.2
Davis Mills 29 40 27.8
Ben Roethlisberger 30 24 40.0
Teddy Bridgewater 31 23 47.1
Zach Wilson 32 29 22.5
Cam Newton 33 31 26.7
Jared Goff 34 34 36.2
Kyle Allen 35 36 6.1
Sam Darnold 36 -- 35.9
Nick Mullens 37 -- 77.9
Garrett Gilbert 38 -- 39.8
Drew Lock 39 -- 4.4
Jake Fromm 40 -- 18.4
Tim Boyle 41 -- 7.2
Mike Glennon 42 39 17.6

Look at the link in itself...Tannebaum rankings....QBR ranking alone has him at about 10...laugh your own f#######KKing ass off. Kirk has had a couple bad QBR rankings weeks in a row...but he will end up right around 10.

No.. he won’t….

He won’t because his coach and his inability to think outside the first option on a given play, his inability to audible out of an obvious bad play such as run plays into a stacked run blitz box, his inability to see receivers running WIDE open, while he quick throws the check down..

He is the definition of mediocrity.. not “Top Ten”…

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/23/2021 11:09:02 AM

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66% Completion Rate, 3656 Yards passing, 29 TDs, 6 INTs. Those are the stats after 3 bad weeks......

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/23/2021 11:11:27 AM

David Levine

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Adam Patrick
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Teams with at least 7 wins in every season since 2014:

- Vikings
- Chiefs
- Patriots
- Saints
- Steelers

How many Playoff appearances and playoff wins for the other 4 teams?

If you're looking for consistently mediocre, then Zim is probably the best in the business.

I mean, how low of a bar is 7 wins?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/23/2021 11:13:54 AM

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Teams with at least 7 wins in every season since 2014:

- Vikings
- Chiefs
- Patriots
- Saints
- Steelers

https://eatdrinkandsleepfootball.com/nfl/most-wins-past-decade.html

6 of the last ten years?

7 wins has been the pinnacle of our success..

Get real Phil…

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/23/2021 11:16:27 AM

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66% Completion Rate, 3656 Yards passing, 29 TDs, 6 INTs. Those are the stats after 3 bad weeks......

7-7 and the entire franchise in desperation mode in a shitty year for the NFC….

Awesome

Those stats are a false flag event..

Which is how cousins steals money…

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/23/2021 11:30:38 AM

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There are already 14 QBR that are better outright, than cousins.. and I suppose it is always possible his rating will jump up while at least 4 of them drop…

But IMO it’s more likely his drops more against our last three opponents…

Hope he proves me wrong.. but betting on Vikings to win 3 straight then , win a playoff game, would turn your family farm into the biggest corporate farm in America, if you want to place that bet in Vegas..

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/23/2021 11:43:24 AM

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Tom Pelissero
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#Vikings RB Dalvin Cook is going on the Reserve/COVID-19 list.

Pretty sure not vaxxed---10 days out.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/23/2021 11:46:15 AM

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#Vikings RB Dalvin Cook is going on the Reserve/COVID-19 list.

Pretty sure not vaxxed---10 days out.

With the latest Omicron variant the most contagious of them all, expect to see more infections on our team in very short order......

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/23/2021 11:46:42 AM

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66% Completion Rate, 3656 Yards passing, 29 TDs, 6 INTs. Those are the stats after 3 bad weeks......

Its a Kirk Cousins way of looking at Kirk Cousins ...

Regurgitate the stats literally without addressing the components that usually decide games.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/23/2021 12:04:37 PM

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66% Completion Rate, 3656 Yards passing, 29 TDs, 6 INTs. Those are the stats after 3 bad weeks......

Its a Kirk Cousins way of looking at Kirk Cousins ...

Regurgitate the stats literally without addressing the components that usually decide games.

Which components? How many gw drives this year w/o a fumble at cincy and a missed FG at Arizona? That was the last goal post.

Team has the 30th ranked Defense, 30th ranked Pass Blocking...those are the facts.

< Message edited by Phil Riewer -- 12/23/2021 12:06:00 PM >

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/23/2021 12:15:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

66% Completion Rate, 3656 Yards passing, 29 TDs, 6 INTs. Those are the stats after 3 bad weeks......

Its a Kirk Cousins way of looking at Kirk Cousins ...

Regurgitate the stats literally without addressing the components that usually decide games.

Which components? How many gw drives this year w/o a fumble at cincy and a missed FG at Arizona? That was the last goal post.

Team has the 30th ranked Defense, 30th ranked Pass Blocking...those are the facts.

I'm so sick of typing this. Not the 30th ranked defense. Not the 30th ranked pass blocking.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/23/2021 12:15:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

66% Completion Rate, 3656 Yards passing, 29 TDs, 6 INTs. Those are the stats after 3 bad weeks......

Its a Kirk Cousins way of looking at Kirk Cousins ...

Regurgitate the stats literally without addressing the components that usually decide games.

Which components? How many gw drives this year w/o a fumble at cincy and a missed FG at Arizona? That was the last goal post.

Team has the 30th ranked Defense, 30th ranked Pass Blocking...those are the facts.

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/23/2021 12:22:35 PM

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The Vikings have a talented team led by an inept head coach, and a QB that can't improvise if the play breaks down. What you get is a circus of close games.

He is a top 10 coach and you better find someone better if you want to replace him. Some of those circus close games are against top teams: Arizona, GB, Balt, Cleveland just to name a few.

It is a challenge to get the Sheldon Richardson's, Patrick Peterson, Vigil, Dalvin Tomlinsons, etc. to sign at reasonable terms (w/o Zimmer)...I guess inept coaches that lose Hunter, Pierce, Griffen, etc. and then move Richardson to DE and sheme it correctly are inept? So you wouldn't have that talent w/o him.

Same applies to the ones that want to cut or trade Cousins....he is only under contract one more year.

Our inept coach has kept us in the playoff picture this year during COVID.

How many game winning drives would Cousin lead w/o a missed kick and turnover (Arizona, Cincy) plus 2 Sunday/Monday Night Prime Time wins in addition to his TD/INT that is leading the league I believe....

Lets bitch about a top 10 coach and top 10 QB.......

Are you okay with hovering around 500 most seasons, maybe making the playoffs every 2-3 years and maybe win a couple of playoff games every decade? Never having a serious Super Bowl run? Not me.

I'm willing to roll the dice until we come up with a mix that gives us a dominate team that has a chance at home field advantage, not a team trying to sneak into a #7 seed wildcard team.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/23/2021 12:51:27 PM

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

66% Completion Rate, 3656 Yards passing, 29 TDs, 6 INTs. Those are the stats after 3 bad weeks......

Its a Kirk Cousins way of looking at Kirk Cousins ...

Regurgitate the stats literally without addressing the components that usually decide games.

Which components? How many gw drives this year w/o a fumble at cincy and a missed FG at Arizona? That was the last goal post.

Team has the 30th ranked Defense, 30th ranked Pass Blocking...those are the facts.

I'm so sick of typing this. Not the 30th ranked defense. Not the 30th ranked pass blocking.

LOL. Think of it as community service. Santa's watching.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/23/2021 12:56:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

66% Completion Rate, 3656 Yards passing, 29 TDs, 6 INTs. Those are the stats after 3 bad weeks......

Its a Kirk Cousins way of looking at Kirk Cousins ...

Regurgitate the stats literally without addressing the components that usually decide games.

Which components? How many gw drives this year w/o a fumble at cincy and a missed FG at Arizona? That was the last goal post.

Team has the 30th ranked Defense, 30th ranked Pass Blocking...those are the facts.

Think of it as the Vikings in the multiverse ...

You are on one plane and I'm on a different one.

Our goal posts will never line up.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/23/2021 12:59:40 PM

David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

66% Completion Rate, 3656 Yards passing, 29 TDs, 6 INTs. Those are the stats after 3 bad weeks......

Its a Kirk Cousins way of looking at Kirk Cousins ...

Regurgitate the stats literally without addressing the components that usually decide games.

Which components? How many gw drives this year w/o a fumble at cincy and a missed FG at Arizona? That was the last goal post.

Team has the 30th ranked Defense, 30th ranked Pass Blocking...those are the facts.

How many wins turn into losses if 1 play is changed?

Zimmer and Cousins aren't snake bit. That shit happens all the time in the NFL. Good teams overcome them. Bad teams use them as excuses.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/23/2021 1:00:18 PM

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/23/2021 1:23:30 PM

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

66% Completion Rate, 3656 Yards passing, 29 TDs, 6 INTs. Those are the stats after 3 bad weeks......

Its a Kirk Cousins way of looking at Kirk Cousins ...

Regurgitate the stats literally without addressing the components that usually decide games.

Which components? How many gw drives this year w/o a fumble at cincy and a missed FG at Arizona? That was the last goal post.

Team has the 30th ranked Defense, 30th ranked Pass Blocking...those are the facts.

How many wins turn into losses if 1 play is changed?

Zimmer and Cousins aren't snake bit. That shit happens all the time in the NFL. Good teams overcome them. Bad teams use them as excuses.

Thanks but a broader perspective does us no good.

It only makes it harder to buttress our narrow arguments.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/23/2021 2:00:18 PM

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

66% Completion Rate, 3656 Yards passing, 29 TDs, 6 INTs. Those are the stats after 3 bad weeks......

Its a Kirk Cousins way of looking at Kirk Cousins ...

Regurgitate the stats literally without addressing the components that usually decide games.

Which components? How many gw drives this year w/o a fumble at cincy and a missed FG at Arizona? That was the last goal post.

Team has the 30th ranked Defense, 30th ranked Pass Blocking...those are the facts.

I'm so sick of typing this. Not the 30th ranked defense. Not the 30th ranked pass blocking.

Tell us what the real rankings are. I think we are 26th on defense. Not sure on the other.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/23/2021 2:00:45 PM

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Rose was reinstated from the Vikings' practice squad COVID-list and cut by the team Tuesday.

The 24-year-old was signed to the Vikings' practice squad in early September but failed to crack the active roster before being let go Tuesday. Rose will now look to find a new team in need of depth at running back, while he's still waiting to make his NFL debut.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/23/2021 2:05:59 PM

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

66% Completion Rate, 3656 Yards passing, 29 TDs, 6 INTs. Those are the stats after 3 bad weeks......

Its a Kirk Cousins way of looking at Kirk Cousins ...

Regurgitate the stats literally without addressing the components that usually decide games.

Which components? How many gw drives this year w/o a fumble at cincy and a missed FG at Arizona? That was the last goal post.

Team has the 30th ranked Defense, 30th ranked Pass Blocking...those are the facts.

I'm so sick of typing this. Not the 30th ranked defense. Not the 30th ranked pass blocking.

Tell us what the real rankings are. I think we are 26th on defense. Not sure on the other.

30th in yards, 23rd in points.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2021/opp.htm

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/23/2021 2:09:07 PM

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

66% Completion Rate, 3656 Yards passing, 29 TDs, 6 INTs. Those are the stats after 3 bad weeks......

Its a Kirk Cousins way of looking at Kirk Cousins ...

Regurgitate the stats literally without addressing the components that usually decide games.

Which components? How many gw drives this year w/o a fumble at cincy and a missed FG at Arizona? That was the last goal post.

Team has the 30th ranked Defense, 30th ranked Pass Blocking...those are the facts.

I'm so sick of typing this. Not the 30th ranked defense. Not the 30th ranked pass blocking.

Tell us what the real rankings are. I think we are 26th on defense. Not sure on the other.

30th in yards, 23rd in points.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2021/opp.htm

I think my stat was before the Bears' game.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/23/2021 2:13:38 PM

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The Vikings have a talented team led by an inept head coach, and a QB that can't improvise if the play breaks down. What you get is a circus of close games.

He is a top 10 coach and you better find someone better if you want to replace him. Some of those circus close games are against top teams: Arizona, GB, Balt, Cleveland just to name a few.

It is a challenge to get the Sheldon Richardson's, Patrick Peterson, Vigil, Dalvin Tomlinsons, etc. to sign at reasonable terms (w/o Zimmer)...I guess inept coaches that lose Hunter, Pierce, Griffen, etc. and then move Richardson to DE and sheme it correctly are inept? So you wouldn't have that talent w/o him.

Same applies to the ones that want to cut or trade Cousins....he is only under contract one more year.

Our inept coach has kept us in the playoff picture this year during COVID.

How many game winning drives would Cousin lead w/o a missed kick and turnover (Arizona, Cincy) plus 2 Sunday/Monday Night Prime Time wins in addition to his TD/INT that is leading the league I believe....

Lets bitch about a top 10 coach and top 10 QB.......

Are you okay with hovering around 500 most seasons, maybe making the playoffs every 2-3 years and maybe win a couple of playoff games every decade? Never having a serious Super Bowl run? Not me.

I'm willing to roll the dice until we come up with a mix that gives us a dominate team that has a chance at home field advantage, not a team trying to sneak into a #7 seed wildcard team.

Yeah. I've defended both guys but they have had enough time to get us over the hump. Time to move on.

If Cousins had a cap number in the low 20s, you probably keep him around for the last year.

Zimmer had 8 years. He had some good years but we need some new direction.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/23/2021 2:21:27 PM

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

66% Completion Rate, 3656 Yards passing, 29 TDs, 6 INTs. Those are the stats after 3 bad weeks......

Its a Kirk Cousins way of looking at Kirk Cousins ...

Regurgitate the stats literally without addressing the components that usually decide games.

Which components? How many gw drives this year w/o a fumble at cincy and a missed FG at Arizona? That was the last goal post.

Team has the 30th ranked Defense, 30th ranked Pass Blocking...those are the facts.

I'm so sick of typing this. Not the 30th ranked defense. Not the 30th ranked pass blocking.

Tell us what the real rankings are. I think we are 26th on defense. Not sure on the other.

30th in yards, 23rd in points.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2021/opp.htm

That has us 28th in yards and 21st in points when I look at it.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/23/2021 2:24:11 PM

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

66% Completion Rate, 3656 Yards passing, 29 TDs, 6 INTs. Those are the stats after 3 bad weeks......

Its a Kirk Cousins way of looking at Kirk Cousins ...

Regurgitate the stats literally without addressing the components that usually decide games.

Which components? How many gw drives this year w/o a fumble at cincy and a missed FG at Arizona? That was the last goal post.

Team has the 30th ranked Defense, 30th ranked Pass Blocking...those are the facts.

I'm so sick of typing this. Not the 30th ranked defense. Not the 30th ranked pass blocking.

Tell us what the real rankings are. I think we are 26th on defense. Not sure on the other.

30th in yards, 23rd in points.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2021/opp.htm

That has us 28th in yards and 21st in points when I look at it.