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RE: Our New Head Coach - 2/1/2022 1:18:21 PM   
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My updated Vikings head coach wishlist:

1.) Jim Harbaugh
2.) Raheem Morris
3.) Doug Pederson
4.) DeMeco Ryans

He is also ok with Rams OC


My updated Vikings head coach wishlist:

1.) Kevin O'Connell
2.) Jim Harbaugh
3.) Raheem Morris
504.) Patrick Graham


I'd be happy with any of the top 3. Although, Harbaugh would make me nervous and excited at the same time.


Kind of like when you've got a woman into an important position?
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RE: Our New Head Coach - 2/1/2022 1:27:21 PM   
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I don’t really want Harbaugh.. TBH..

But I have Zero control..

What I want to see is an explosive offense.

Defense can be middle of the road, ..

We have way too much cap tied up in aging Vets..

We tied up a lot of money on defense, to be rated this badly.

They are 27th against the run, 25th in pass defense, and 25th in points allowed, and 27th in total yards allowed.Dec 18, 2021

Of all of the names that have surfaced, Harbaugh is my least favorite. I absolutely cannot root for a team with Harbaugh as the coach.

First off, the guy is just freakin weird. I don't want a weirdo coaching the Vikings. Harbaugh is the quintessential rah rah guy. Can't do it.

Why would the Vikings want to hire a guy that never seems comfortable in one spot for more than three years?

Based on leaving SF after 4 years? His other moves were for better jobs, clearly better jobs.


Could be a USC/Stanford PAC 12 thing?

With Harbaugh, it's always about a better job. That's what he says every time. The reality is, nobody within any organization or program likes him after one year. He's got an abrasive personality and frankly, is just a little bit weird.

And yes, he's a Wolverine, which should automatically eliminate him from any high-profile jobs in the state of Minnesota. Our new GM should know that! I'd rather see them hire Cal Stoll or Murray Warmath, and both have been dead for a long time.

You mean like our new GM who has both worked with him and likes him enough to include him in his final 4 HC pool.

Pllease continue with your lucid commentary … I have never liked Harbaugh but your campaign against has me warming up to him a little.


i havent liked him either, but if he gets the sunglass endorsement from Brad H, I am all in

I think Brad is all out on Harbaugh because he thinks he might be a conservative.

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RE: Our New Head Coach - 2/1/2022 1:59:14 PM   
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The timing of Jim Harbaugh, 58, entering the mix for the Vikings head coaching vacancy is also of interest. He wasn’t included in the first round of interview requests (neither was Graham) but was added after Kwesi Adofo-Mensah was signed as general manager.

Harbaugh’s addition was at the behest of Adofo-Mensah, who worked with Harbaugh for two years in San Francisco. The two had an initial meeting on Saturday to gauge mutual interest, after the Vikings asked for, and received, permission to interview Harbaugh from the University of Michigan.

There were rumors flying over the past month or so that Harbaugh was ready to return to the NFL, and had been linked at times to the Raiders, Bears, and Dolphins. But there was also a rumor that Harbaugh’s interest was simply a ploy to get a new and better contract from the University of Michigan.

Harbaugh’s decision to fly to Minneapolis on Wednesday, which is the national signing day in college football, after which the Michigan coaching staff has a week off, would seem to indicate that Harbaugh is serious about the Vikings’ head coaching job. Making such a move is bound to create negative uncertainty for the Michigan recruiting process, which wouldn’t help Harbaugh if he were planning to stay in Ann Arbor.

One source, as reported in this article by Aaron Wilson, says:

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“The best players play in the NFL, and the best coaches coach in the NFL,” one source said. “Jim loves college football, but he feels like he has unfinished business in the NFL, so he’s exploring this opportunity. Jim has always had interest in coaching in the NFL again.”


At age 58, Harbaugh may not have a lot of time to get back into the NFL and have a significant tenure, so he could well be ready to pull the trigger now, having taken the Michigan program about as far as it’s likely to go this past season.

For Harbaugh, having a GM that he’s known in the past like Adofo-Mensah may be one reason he’s interested in the Vikings job. He had a well-publicized falling-out with 49ers GM Trent Baalke and CEO Jed York which led to his firing in San Francisco, so having a GM he knows and trusts is doubtless an important consideration for him, as is ownership.

Secondly, Harbaugh- a former NFL quarterback- had former Broncos head coach Vic Fangio as his defensive coordinator for his entire stint with the 49ers, and Fangio’s availability may also be a reason for Harbaugh to make the jump now. It’s not clear that Fangio would sign on with the Vikings should they hire Harbaugh, but that is the speculation. Fangio is one of the best defensive coordinators in the league.

The Harbaugh-Fangio combination, should that be realized, may be too good of an opportunity for the Wilfs to pass up, particularly if it meets with Adofo-Mensah’s approval, having worked with both of them in the past. Harbaugh’s quirky personality and clash with management in San Francisco are reportedly a concern, but they may be willing to move ahead with Harbaugh if their concerns are alleviated.

From the Aaron Wilson article:

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Another source noted that Harbaugh is extremely positive, consistent, and honest in his demeanor and dealings with players and coaches, countering the frequently cited narrative that Harbaugh can be difficult to deal with as completely false. One source emphasized that Harbaugh — a family man with a quirky personality — has an incredible work ethic and mind for the game.

Harbaugh is friends with actor Jason Sudeikis and was a loose inspiration for the Ted Lasso character from the Emmy Award-winning AppleTV+ television program, consulting with the Big Ten Conference Coach about gameday wardrobe choices after getting to know each other when Harbaugh appeared on the television show “Detroiters.”


From his time in San Francisco, it seems that his problems were mainly with Baalke and York, and not with players and other coaches.

It is unusual, even in the not-for-long NFL, for a team to fire a coach that took his team to the NFC Championship game three times in his first 3 years, including a Super Bowl game that he nearly won if not for a bad non-call, and who also averaged 11 wins a season. It’s also unusual for the fired coach to get a Gatorade shower after his last game. But Harbaugh got one.

The reason Harbaugh got fired was simply that the 49ers CEO and owner, Jed York, 34 at the time, didn’t like Harbaugh, and Harbaugh reportedly didn’t like him. And GM Trent Baalke, whom York fired a few years later, had clashes with him about the roster and other issues.

But, if Adofo-Mensah, who knows Harbaugh, worked with him, and recommended interviewing him, thinks he can work with Harbaugh again as GM and head coach, that should be good for the Wilfs, who are normally a pretty hands-off ownership group when it comes to the day-to-day football operations.

As it stands, the mutual interest meeting on Saturday appears to have gone well enough for the Wilfs and Adofo-Mensah to fly Harbaugh in for an interview on Wednesday, which is the last head coaching interview they have scheduled. The three other remaining contenders have had, or will have, two interviews. But no decisions have been made.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2022/2/1/22911891/all-signs-pointing-to-jim-harbaugh-as-vikings-next-head-coach
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RE: Our New Head Coach - 2/1/2022 2:11:56 PM   
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wow, that is a persuasive article

i had thought the Harbaugh talk was all smoke until today
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RE: Our New Head Coach - 2/1/2022 3:04:41 PM   
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Comment from the DN article:

Quote from Harbaugh about Alex Smith when he first got to SF:

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“It was a long process, many hours. This is the job I knew that nobody would be spending more time on it, or thinking about it more than I would. And also getting the input from the coaches, and people within the organization, and the staff. At the end of the time, you know that it’s your decision to make because you’re spending the most time on it, you’re thinking about it the most.

“And did just that. Spent a lot of time watching Alex, and came to the understanding and realization that he was really good. And he needed to be put in a better position. There was play action passing that was missing, and that he would be really good at, and getting out the pocket more than had been being done. Just fitting our scheme. I can just visualize where he would be very successful. But it was a long process to look at all options an do the diligence for what was best for the team.”

Seems like he could work well with Cousins and put him in a position to use his strengths.
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RE: Our New Head Coach - 2/1/2022 3:08:49 PM   
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Could be a little problem in Miami; Harbaugh may want to stay away:

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Oh wow, Brian Flores suing the NFL and NY Giants, alleging racism in hiring. Includes private texts from Bill Belichick https://wigdorlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Complaint-against-National-Football-League-et-al-Filed.pdf
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Flores says that Stephen Ross, the owner of the Miami Dolphins, offered to pay him $100,000 for every loss during 2019 season to help the team get a better draft spot. Was mad when they kept winning.
2:43 PM · Feb 1, 2022·Twitter Web App


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Flores' suit includes texts from Bill Belichick that appear to show him congratulating him on getting the Giants job, mistakenly believing he was texting Brian Daboll. This was before Flores' interview with the Giants took place.

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Former Miami HC Brian Flores is suing the NFL, the Giants, the Dolphins and the Broncos for alleged “racism in hiring”, and he includes texts from Patriots’ HC Bill Belichick in the suit as evidence. Lawsuit filed in Manhattan Federal Court seeking unspecified damages from NFL.

< Message edited by Phil Riewer -- 2/1/2022 3:29:00 PM >


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RE: Our New Head Coach - 2/1/2022 3:13:32 PM   
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Great intel from D-Wolfson:

• Kwesi Adofo-Mensah gave #Vikings 3 HC names when he 1st interviewed: Jim Harbaugh, Patrick Graham & Kevin O'Connell
• "It's going to be [Harbaugh or O'Connell]"
• There are fans of O'Connell within the Vikings circle
• Miami lurking on Harbaugh?

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RE: Our New Head Coach - 2/1/2022 3:42:29 PM   
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Could be a little problem in Miami; Harbaugh may want to stay away:

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Oh wow, Brian Flores suing the NFL and NY Giants, alleging racism in hiring. Includes private texts from Bill Belichick https://wigdorlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Complaint-against-National-Football-League-et-al-Filed.pdf
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Flores says that Stephen Ross, the owner of the Miami Dolphins, offered to pay him $100,000 for every loss during 2019 season to help the team get a better draft spot. Was mad when they kept winning.
2:43 PM · Feb 1, 2022·Twitter Web App


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Flores' suit includes texts from Bill Belichick that appear to show him congratulating him on getting the Giants job, mistakenly believing he was texting Brian Daboll. This was before Flores' interview with the Giants took place.

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Former Miami HC Brian Flores is suing the NFL, the Giants, the Dolphins and the Broncos for alleged “racism in hiring”, and he includes texts from Patriots’ HC Bill Belichick in the suit as evidence. Lawsuit filed in Manhattan Federal Court seeking unspecified damages from NFL.



Well, one the one hand he may get a nice paycheck from the NFL to shut up. On the other he will never work in the NFL again.

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RE: Our New Head Coach - 2/1/2022 3:49:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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Could be a little problem in Miami; Harbaugh may want to stay away:

Alex Weprin
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Oh wow, Brian Flores suing the NFL and NY Giants, alleging racism in hiring. Includes private texts from Bill Belichick https://wigdorlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Complaint-against-National-Football-League-et-al-Filed.pdf
Alex Weprin
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Flores says that Stephen Ross, the owner of the Miami Dolphins, offered to pay him $100,000 for every loss during 2019 season to help the team get a better draft spot. Was mad when they kept winning.
2:43 PM · Feb 1, 2022·Twitter Web App


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Flores' suit includes texts from Bill Belichick that appear to show him congratulating him on getting the Giants job, mistakenly believing he was texting Brian Daboll. This was before Flores' interview with the Giants took place.

Adam Schefter
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Former Miami HC Brian Flores is suing the NFL, the Giants, the Dolphins and the Broncos for alleged “racism in hiring”, and he includes texts from Patriots’ HC Bill Belichick in the suit as evidence. Lawsuit filed in Manhattan Federal Court seeking unspecified damages from NFL.



Well, one the one hand he may get a nice paycheck from the NFL to shut up. On the other he will never work in the NFL again.


The texts can be explained away from Belichick as rumors he had heard. It isn't like Belichick was a Giants employee involved in hiring process. True or not doesn't really matter.
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RE: Our New Head Coach - 2/1/2022 4:25:51 PM   
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Probably makes sense why Harbaugh is interested in us. A couple days ago he seemed like a lock to the Dolphins if he wanted back in.
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RE: Our New Head Coach - 2/1/2022 4:27:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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Could be a little problem in Miami; Harbaugh may want to stay away:

Alex Weprin
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Oh wow, Brian Flores suing the NFL and NY Giants, alleging racism in hiring. Includes private texts from Bill Belichick https://wigdorlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Complaint-against-National-Football-League-et-al-Filed.pdf
Alex Weprin
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Flores says that Stephen Ross, the owner of the Miami Dolphins, offered to pay him $100,000 for every loss during 2019 season to help the team get a better draft spot. Was mad when they kept winning.
2:43 PM · Feb 1, 2022·Twitter Web App


Alex Weprin
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Flores' suit includes texts from Bill Belichick that appear to show him congratulating him on getting the Giants job, mistakenly believing he was texting Brian Daboll. This was before Flores' interview with the Giants took place.

Adam Schefter
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Former Miami HC Brian Flores is suing the NFL, the Giants, the Dolphins and the Broncos for alleged “racism in hiring”, and he includes texts from Patriots’ HC Bill Belichick in the suit as evidence. Lawsuit filed in Manhattan Federal Court seeking unspecified damages from NFL.



Well, one the one hand he may get a nice paycheck from the NFL to shut up. On the other he will never work in the NFL again.


He probably shouldn't have used Adrian Peterson's talking points as the legal basis for the suit.
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RE: Our New Head Coach - 2/1/2022 4:30:53 PM   
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Giants had already interview a few other minority candidates before Flores.
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RE: Our New Head Coach - 2/1/2022 4:35:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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Could be a little problem in Miami; Harbaugh may want to stay away:

Alex Weprin
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Oh wow, Brian Flores suing the NFL and NY Giants, alleging racism in hiring. Includes private texts from Bill Belichick https://wigdorlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Complaint-against-National-Football-League-et-al-Filed.pdf
Alex Weprin
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Flores says that Stephen Ross, the owner of the Miami Dolphins, offered to pay him $100,000 for every loss during 2019 season to help the team get a better draft spot. Was mad when they kept winning.
2:43 PM · Feb 1, 2022·Twitter Web App


Alex Weprin
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Flores' suit includes texts from Bill Belichick that appear to show him congratulating him on getting the Giants job, mistakenly believing he was texting Brian Daboll. This was before Flores' interview with the Giants took place.

Adam Schefter
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11m
Former Miami HC Brian Flores is suing the NFL, the Giants, the Dolphins and the Broncos for alleged “racism in hiring”, and he includes texts from Patriots’ HC Bill Belichick in the suit as evidence. Lawsuit filed in Manhattan Federal Court seeking unspecified damages from NFL.



Well, one the one hand he may get a nice paycheck from the NFL to shut up. On the other he will never work in the NFL again.

Because he told the truth? Then he should get a whistleblower settlement as well.

There is nothing to dispute, really. The vast majority of NFL players are black, but coaching and executive seats are vast majority (or almost entirely white). How could that possibly be? There is no question about past discrimination, and now there is a clear question about what the NFL is doing to rectify the crimes of the past.
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RE: Our New Head Coach - 2/1/2022 4:48:02 PM   
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If you're at all on the fence with Harbaugh listen to Alex Boone talk about what is was like playing for him.

https://youtu.be/se608z9H_H0

I'm in love.
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RE: Our New Head Coach - 2/1/2022 4:54:14 PM   
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The Giants didn't seem to have a problem with hiring a Canadian. (gasp)
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RE: Our New Head Coach - 2/1/2022 4:58:23 PM   
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The Giants didn't seem to have a problem with hiring a Canadian. (gasp)

Only because of the Loonie Rule.
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RE: Our New Head Coach - 2/1/2022 5:08:57 PM   
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After Adofo-Mensah hires Harbaugh, I wonder if he'll have to testify in Flores' suit.
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RE: Our New Head Coach - 2/1/2022 5:09:10 PM   
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If you're at all on the fence with Harbaugh listen to Alex Boone talk about what is was like playing for him.

https://youtu.be/se608z9H_H0

I'm in love.


Good stuff!

DL, that was good stuff, too

Thanks!!
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RE: Our New Head Coach - 2/1/2022 5:13:40 PM   
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The Giants didn't seem to have a problem with hiring a Canadian. (gasp)

Only because of the Loonie Rule.



lol clever.
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RE: Our New Head Coach - 2/1/2022 5:15:42 PM   
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The Giants didn't seem to have a problem with hiring a Canadian. (gasp)

Only because of the Loonie Rule.

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RE: Our New Head Coach - 2/1/2022 6:03:56 PM   
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If you're at all on the fence with Harbaugh listen to Alex Boone talk about what is was like playing for him.

https://youtu.be/se608z9H_H0

I'm in love.

sign me up!

the players are gonna buy in in 2 seconds!
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RE: Our New Head Coach - 2/1/2022 6:07:15 PM   
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i have heard is suggested that the Vikings are just a leverage interview...

Miami is the job Harbaugh wants, and Ross didn't want to be the first person to try to lure him away from his alma mater


I'd be surprised. Ross is one of the worst owners in the NFL

Harbaugh just seems like a Midwest guy to me.
I think he'd love the chance to beat Chicago 2 times a year, since they had no interest in reaching out to him.

I've heard that the GA game, made Harbaugh realize that MI will never be able to recruit like a GA or AL and wants back in the pros desperately.

Any doubt about this Ross call upon the news today?
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RE: Our New Head Coach - 2/1/2022 6:29:01 PM   
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i have heard is suggested that the Vikings are just a leverage interview...

Miami is the job Harbaugh wants, and Ross didn't want to be the first person to try to lure him away from his alma mater


I'd be surprised. Ross is one of the worst owners in the NFL

Harbaugh just seems like a Midwest guy to me.
I think he'd love the chance to beat Chicago 2 times a year, since they had no interest in reaching out to him.

I've heard that the GA game, made Harbaugh realize that MI will never be able to recruit like a GA or AL and wants back in the pros desperately.

Any doubt about this Ross call upon the news today?


With legalized gambling on the NFL. I'm surprised this hasn't blown up more.

Ross should be forced to sell. Paying a coach to throw games is way out of bounds.

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RE: Our New Head Coach - 2/1/2022 7:29:54 PM   
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The interview made me think Harbaugh would be exciting.

Harbaugh/Cousins = Favre

Like Favre's 1st year, would be quite entertaining and good, would win lots of games, and then flame out with a loss in the NFC Championship, or the Super Bowl.

Harbaugh/Watson - Would be quite exciting, and possibly a SB win, just can't imagine it happening with KAM, not sure he is as much a risk taker as Speilman, it would be a big risk

Harbaugh/Pickett - Not as exciting the first year, lots of impatience, mistakes and tempers, but SB win in the 2nd year

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RE: Our New Head Coach - 2/1/2022 8:22:30 PM   
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“Michigan head coach Jim Harbaugh is headed to Minnesota for a Wednesday interview, but multiple sources say it’s a formality. Harbaugh heads there planning to sign a deal to become the NFL Vikings’ head coach.”

Vikings fans, how you feeling?

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9 hours is a long time to interview someone if you’ve already made up your mind about going in another direction…just a reminder that nothing is official yet on the Harbaugh front


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