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RE: Our New Head Coach - 1/10/2022 8:47:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		From the college ranks, I would throw Ryan Day into the mix. He seems to understand what a quarterback is supposed to look like in 2021.

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RE: Our New Head Coach - 1/10/2022 8:55:18 AM   
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From the college ranks, I would throw Ryan Day into the mix. He seems to understand what a quarterback is supposed to look like in 2021.

College coaches in NFL have pretty much all sucked.
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RE: Our New Head Coach - 1/10/2022 8:58:20 AM   
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RE: Our New Head Coach - 1/10/2022 9:03:24 AM   
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From the college ranks, I would throw Ryan Day into the mix. He seems to understand what a quarterback is supposed to look like in 2021.

College coaches in NFL have pretty much all sucked.

There's some truth to that. It's a different game.

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RE: Our New Head Coach - 1/10/2022 9:05:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Brian Flores just jumped to the front of the line for me.

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RE: Our New Head Coach - 1/10/2022 9:08:44 AM   
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RE: Our New Head Coach - 1/10/2022 9:10:15 AM   
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RE: Our New Head Coach - 1/10/2022 9:12:28 AM   
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How about Josh McDaniels? Think he's available. Worth kicking the tires at leat.


1. He's already failed once as a HC
2. He's from the Belichick tree...every other coach from that tree has failed miserably.

I Personally have no interest in McDaniels.

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RE: Our New Head Coach - 1/10/2022 9:12:33 AM   
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I want offense. Tired of a defensive minded guy.

Given our defense the past few years, I wouldn't qualify Zimmer as a defensive minded guy.

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RE: Our New Head Coach - 1/10/2022 9:13:07 AM   
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Brian Flores just jumped to the front of the line for me.



Isn't he the HC of the Dolphins right now?

Let's focus on guys that actually available.

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RE: Our New Head Coach - 1/10/2022 9:13:30 AM   
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RE: Our New Head Coach - 1/10/2022 9:14:07 AM   
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Brian Flores just jumped to the front of the line for me.



Isn't he the HC of the Dolphins right now?

Let's focus on guys that actually available.


He's been fired by the Dolphins.

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RE: Our New Head Coach - 1/10/2022 9:15:29 AM   
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Brian Flores just jumped to the front of the line for me.



Isn't he the HC of the Dolphins right now?

Let's focus on guys that actually available.

Just got whacked in Miami, as I understand it.

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RE: Our New Head Coach - 1/10/2022 9:15:39 AM  1 votes
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RE: Our New Head Coach - 1/10/2022 9:16:14 AM   
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Give me an offensive minded HC who has won a Superbowl and a DC who consistently produces top-ten defenses:

HC - Doug Pederson
DC - Vig Fangio

I want nothing to do with Fangio. It's 2021, not 1998.

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RE: Our New Head Coach - 1/10/2022 9:17:00 AM   
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RE: Our New Head Coach - 1/10/2022 9:17:13 AM   
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Brian Flores just jumped to the front of the line for me.



Isn't he the HC of the Dolphins right now?

Let's focus on guys that actually available.

Just got whacked in Miami, as I understand it.

Well that's some dumb ass shit on the Dolphins part.

Sure they got off to a bad start but they turned it around big time. That takes good coaching.

And they just got done putting a whooping on a Belichik coached team looking to still win their division.

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RE: Our New Head Coach - 1/10/2022 9:18:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Brian Flores just jumped to the front of the line for me.



Isn't he the HC of the Dolphins right now?

Let's focus on guys that actually available.

Just got whacked in Miami, as I understand it.

Well that's some dumb ass shit on the Dolphins part.

Sure they got off to a bad start but they turned it around big time. That takes good coaching.

And they just got done putting a whooping on a Belichik coached team looking to still win their division.

Exactly. He may have gotten some votes for coach of the year. Played the first half of the year with an injured lineup and had his team playing great football down the stretch. Classic Dolphins. They are one of the worst run organizations in the league.

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RE: Our New Head Coach - 1/10/2022 9:30:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		I like watching some of these young coaches, but very few of them are going to have the ultimate success of winning a Super Bowl until they stop treating the game like an Madden EA Sports video game. When playing a video game you can start over. In the NFL you end up missing the playoffs and eventually getting fired.

I watched the kid with the Chargers last night and saw him go for a first down on 4th and 1 from his own 19-yard line in the first half. It ended up costing him a field goal in a tight game. He also killed the Chargers a few weeks ago against Kansas City in a game they should have never lost. I've seen him do it routinely throughout the year and occasionally get burned. Same thing with the kids in Cincinnati and Arizona.

It's fun to watch, but occasionally you get burned.

The most level-headed young coach is in Green Bay. And I like the guy in Philly. You have to be a risk-taker, but occasionally know when to pump the brakes. It's not a video game.

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RE: Our New Head Coach - 1/10/2022 9:35:11 AM   
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RE: Our New Head Coach - 1/10/2022 9:48:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Brian Flores just jumped to the front of the line for me.



Isn't he the HC of the Dolphins right now?

Let's focus on guys that actually available.

Just got whacked in Miami, as I understand it.

Well that's some dumb ass shit on the Dolphins part.

Sure they got off to a bad start but they turned it around big time. That takes good coaching.

And they just got done putting a whooping on a Belichik coached team looking to still win their division.

Exactly. He may have gotten some votes for coach of the year. Played the first half of the year with an injured lineup and had his team playing great football down the stretch. Classic Dolphins. They are one of the worst run organizations in the league.


The guys on NFL Radio this morning were speculating that it had to be some type of conflict within the building because, as they said, his results this season were certainly not worthy of a pink slip.

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RE: Our New Head Coach - 1/10/2022 9:51:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Brian Flores just jumped to the front of the line for me.



Isn't he the HC of the Dolphins right now?

Let's focus on guys that actually available.

Just got whacked in Miami, as I understand it.

Well that's some dumb ass shit on the Dolphins part.

Sure they got off to a bad start but they turned it around big time. That takes good coaching.

And they just got done putting a whooping on a Belichik coached team looking to still win their division.

Exactly. He may have gotten some votes for coach of the year. Played the first half of the year with an injured lineup and had his team playing great football down the stretch. Classic Dolphins. They are one of the worst run organizations in the league.


The guys on NFL Radio this morning were speculating that it had to be some type of conflict within the building because, as they said, his results this season were certainly not worthy of a pink slip.


Dolphins front office resembles the TWolves history of Front Offices.

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RE: Our New Head Coach - 1/10/2022 10:08:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

Give me an offensive minded HC who has won a Superbowl and a DC who consistently produces top-ten defenses:

HC - Doug Pederson
DC - Vig Fangio


I would totally agree......Flores at DC would be good too.

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RE: Our New Head Coach - 1/10/2022 10:12:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Brian Flores just jumped to the front of the line for me.



Isn't he the HC of the Dolphins right now?

Let's focus on guys that actually available.

Just got whacked in Miami, as I understand it.

Well that's some dumb ass shit on the Dolphins part.

Sure they got off to a bad start but they turned it around big time. That takes good coaching.

And they just got done putting a whooping on a Belichik coached team looking to still win their division.

Exactly. He may have gotten some votes for coach of the year. Played the first half of the year with an injured lineup and had his team playing great football down the stretch. Classic Dolphins. They are one of the worst run organizations in the league.


The guys on NFL Radio this morning were speculating that it had to be some type of conflict within the building because, as they said, his results this season were certainly not worthy of a pink slip.


Dolphins front office resembles the TWolves history of Front Offices.


Not so sure:

Sept. 1, 2019 — Traded T Laremy Tunsil, WR Kenny Stills, a 2020 4th-round pick and a 2021 6th-round pick to Houston for DB Johnson Bademosi, T Julién Davenport, a 2020 1st-round pick, a 2020 2nd-round pick and a 2021 1st-round pick

Tunsil is an elite left tackle, but there was never any way to not like this trade. Not then, not last year and certainly not now that it's given the Dolphins the third overall pick.

Sept. 2, 2019 — Traded LB Kiko Alonso to New Orleans for LB Vince Biegel

This already had the look of a good deal for the Dolphins even before Biegel re-signed this past week as unrestricted free agent because Alonso did little but battle injuries with the Saints and he then was traded to the 49ers last year. This also helped with the salary cap.

Sept. 16, 2019 — Traded S Minkah Fitzpatrick, a 2020 4th-round pick and a 2021 7th-round pick to Pittsburgh for a 2020 1st-round pick, a 2021 5th-round pick and a 2021 6th-round pick

This is one that will be revisited for a while, particularly if Fitzpatrick continues piling up All-Pro honors like he did in his first two seasons with the Steelers. It also will depend on how Austin Jackson, taken with that 2020 first-round pick, develops an NFL offensive lineman. Early on, though, this one isn't looking good.

Oct. 28, 2019 — Traded RB Kenyan Drake to Arizona for a 2020 5th-round pick

For some reason, Drake never gained traction in Miami no matter what he did — include the Miracle in Miami — and there was no way he was going to re-sign as a free agent last offseason, so might as well get a draft pick for him.

They went from winless to pretty damn good midseason of 2020 with a bunch of rookies and UDFAs.

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RE: Our New Head Coach - 1/10/2022 11:21:41 AM  1 votes
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First thing they need to do is hire a general manager. Then, the GM names a coach.


YES, the new GM should lead the search for a new head coach.
Personally, I would keep Spielman aa the GM. I think he has done well in the draft and in free agency. He did a great job in keeping the public informed. Good luck Rick.

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