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ORIGINAL: marty

It wouldn't hurt to have another red zone target.

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ORIGINAL: Dave Odle

I can see the Cousins analysis both ways. On the one hand, he puts up ridiculous, gawdy stats from time to time and that makes people take notice. For example, if this was a fantasy QB, I'd probably feel okay rolling the dice. Like was mentioned before, however; it seems like we have witnessed his ceiling. It's not a bad ceiling, either. Think like Tony Romo or some other starting QB who could get everyone excited, but inevitably fizzled.

The hope is that O' Connell can work smoother w/ Cousins as an offensive mind and QB coach and elevate that ceiling. It's not as common so late in a QB's career, but it's happened when players and coaches gel just right. I don't mind Cousins and think you could do worse, but I think he lacks a killer instinct to improvise during broken plays/audibles. I think you kind of have that awareness or you don't to extend plays and sandlot a little bit. It's honestly what makes Romo a slightly better QB because of that added athleticism.

Personally, I'd like for this to be Cousins' last season as a Viking and to find our QBOTF in the upcoming draft, along w/ a solid veteran backup QB. Mond can obviously compete for QB1 or QB2. We honestly don't know what he can do and I don't trust a Zimmer evaluation of a QB for offensive coaching.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Dave Odle

I can see the Cousins analysis both ways. On the one hand, he puts up ridiculous, gawdy stats from time to time and that makes people take notice. For example, if this was a fantasy QB, I'd probably feel okay rolling the dice. Like was mentioned before, however; it seems like we have witnessed his ceiling. It's not a bad ceiling, either. Think like Tony Romo or some other starting QB who could get everyone excited, but inevitably fizzled.

The hope is that O' Connell can work smoother w/ Cousins as an offensive mind and QB coach and elevate that ceiling. It's not as common so late in a QB's career, but it's happened when players and coaches gel just right. I don't mind Cousins and think you could do worse, but I think he lacks a killer instinct to improvise during broken plays/audibles. I think you kind of have that awareness or you don't to extend plays and sandlot a little bit. It's honestly what makes Romo a slightly better QB because of that added athleticism.

Personally, I'd like for this to be Cousins' last season as a Viking and to find our QBOTF in the upcoming draft, along w/ a solid veteran backup QB. Mond can obviously compete for QB1 or QB2. We honestly don't know what he can do and I don't trust a Zimmer evaluation of a QB for offensive coaching.

Improvisation/pulling a play out of his ass is undoubtedly Cousins weakest area. However, I would like for this to be the first of many remaining Cousins seasons with the Vikings leading to multiple Super Bowl wins.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Dave Odle

I can see the Cousins analysis both ways. On the one hand, he puts up ridiculous, gawdy stats from time to time and that makes people take notice. For example, if this was a fantasy QB, I'd probably feel okay rolling the dice. Like was mentioned before, however; it seems like we have witnessed his ceiling. It's not a bad ceiling, either. Think like Tony Romo or some other starting QB who could get everyone excited, but inevitably fizzled.

The hope is that O' Connell can work smoother w/ Cousins as an offensive mind and QB coach and elevate that ceiling. It's not as common so late in a QB's career, but it's happened when players and coaches gel just right. I don't mind Cousins and think you could do worse, but I think he lacks a killer instinct to improvise during broken plays/audibles. I think you kind of have that awareness or you don't to extend plays and sandlot a little bit. It's honestly what makes Romo a slightly better QB because of that added athleticism.

Personally, I'd like for this to be Cousins' last season as a Viking and to find our QBOTF in the upcoming draft, along w/ a solid veteran backup QB. Mond can obviously compete for QB1 or QB2. We honestly don't know what he can do and I don't trust a Zimmer evaluation of a QB for offensive coaching.

Improvisation/pulling a play out of his ass is undoubtedly Cousins weakest area. However, I would like for this to be the first of many remaining Cousins seasons with the Vikings leading to multiple Super Bowl wins.

Let's win a SB with him then kick his ass out of here ... you know, because he's just don't like him

- I personally don't know how we can judge his weakest area when we know he had limitations put on him but we don't know to what extent ... other than you know he couldn't even call a much needed TO even when the coach clearly spaced it out

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

Cousins just has no swag ...

https://twitter.com/ChairwOpinion/status/1536044842299494400?s=20&t=psVDX-EGO1GCVj-C9TXu7Q

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Dave Odle

I can see the Cousins analysis both ways. On the one hand, he puts up ridiculous, gawdy stats from time to time and that makes people take notice. For example, if this was a fantasy QB, I'd probably feel okay rolling the dice. Like was mentioned before, however; it seems like we have witnessed his ceiling. It's not a bad ceiling, either. Think like Tony Romo or some other starting QB who could get everyone excited, but inevitably fizzled.

The hope is that O' Connell can work smoother w/ Cousins as an offensive mind and QB coach and elevate that ceiling. It's not as common so late in a QB's career, but it's happened when players and coaches gel just right. I don't mind Cousins and think you could do worse, but I think he lacks a killer instinct to improvise during broken plays/audibles. I think you kind of have that awareness or you don't to extend plays and sandlot a little bit. It's honestly what makes Romo a slightly better QB because of that added athleticism.

Personally, I'd like for this to be Cousins' last season as a Viking and to find our QBOTF in the upcoming draft, along w/ a solid veteran backup QB. Mond can obviously compete for QB1 or QB2. We honestly don't know what he can do and I don't trust a Zimmer evaluation of a QB for offensive coaching.

Improvisation/pulling a play out of his ass is undoubtedly Cousins weakest area. However, I would like for this to be the first of many remaining Cousins seasons with the Vikings leading to multiple Super Bowl wins.

Let's win a SB with him then kick his ass out of here ... you know, because he's just don't like him

- I personally don't know how we can judge his weakest area when we know he had limitations put on him but we don't know to what extent ... other than you know he couldn't even call a much needed TO even when the coach clearly spaced it out

He was the same way in Washington, and maybe that's why the (then) Redskins fans were happy to say "good riddance".

But we'll see what the year brings. Of course there is a built in excuse for him in 2022, that being a 'new system'. I'm sure 2023 will have its share of excuses, err reasons.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Dave Odle

I can see the Cousins analysis both ways. On the one hand, he puts up ridiculous, gawdy stats from time to time and that makes people take notice. For example, if this was a fantasy QB, I'd probably feel okay rolling the dice. Like was mentioned before, however; it seems like we have witnessed his ceiling. It's not a bad ceiling, either. Think like Tony Romo or some other starting QB who could get everyone excited, but inevitably fizzled.

The hope is that O' Connell can work smoother w/ Cousins as an offensive mind and QB coach and elevate that ceiling. It's not as common so late in a QB's career, but it's happened when players and coaches gel just right. I don't mind Cousins and think you could do worse, but I think he lacks a killer instinct to improvise during broken plays/audibles. I think you kind of have that awareness or you don't to extend plays and sandlot a little bit. It's honestly what makes Romo a slightly better QB because of that added athleticism.

Personally, I'd like for this to be Cousins' last season as a Viking and to find our QBOTF in the upcoming draft, along w/ a solid veteran backup QB. Mond can obviously compete for QB1 or QB2. We honestly don't know what he can do and I don't trust a Zimmer evaluation of a QB for offensive coaching.

Improvisation/pulling a play out of his ass is undoubtedly Cousins weakest area. However, I would like for this to be the first of many remaining Cousins seasons with the Vikings leading to multiple Super Bowl wins.

Let's win a SB with him then kick his ass out of here ... you know, because he's just don't like him

- I personally don't know how we can judge his weakest area when we know he had limitations put on him but we don't know to what extent ... other than you know he couldn't even call a much needed TO even when the coach clearly spaced it out

He was the same way in Washington, and maybe that's why the (then) Redskins fans were happy to say "good riddance".

But we'll see what the year brings. Of course there is a built in excuse for him in 2022, that being a 'new system'. I'm sure 2023 will have its share of excuses, err reasons.

I'm ok with the 'new system' excuse having no validity this upcoming year. I do believe, however, we have to give him this next year without reservation - I mean either that or one could be looked upon as one who actually found nothing wrong with Zimmer and his alleged interference with not only the offense but Cousins as well.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Dave Odle

I can see the Cousins analysis both ways. On the one hand, he puts up ridiculous, gawdy stats from time to time and that makes people take notice. For example, if this was a fantasy QB, I'd probably feel okay rolling the dice. Like was mentioned before, however; it seems like we have witnessed his ceiling. It's not a bad ceiling, either. Think like Tony Romo or some other starting QB who could get everyone excited, but inevitably fizzled.

The hope is that O' Connell can work smoother w/ Cousins as an offensive mind and QB coach and elevate that ceiling. It's not as common so late in a QB's career, but it's happened when players and coaches gel just right. I don't mind Cousins and think you could do worse, but I think he lacks a killer instinct to improvise during broken plays/audibles. I think you kind of have that awareness or you don't to extend plays and sandlot a little bit. It's honestly what makes Romo a slightly better QB because of that added athleticism.

Personally, I'd like for this to be Cousins' last season as a Viking and to find our QBOTF in the upcoming draft, along w/ a solid veteran backup QB. Mond can obviously compete for QB1 or QB2. We honestly don't know what he can do and I don't trust a Zimmer evaluation of a QB for offensive coaching.

Improvisation/pulling a play out of his ass is undoubtedly Cousins weakest area. However, I would like for this to be the first of many remaining Cousins seasons with the Vikings leading to multiple Super Bowl wins.

Let's win a SB with him then kick his ass out of here ... you know, because he's just don't like him

- I personally don't know how we can judge his weakest area when we know he had limitations put on him but we don't know to what extent ... other than you know he couldn't even call a much needed TO even when the coach clearly spaced it out

He was the same way in Washington, and maybe that's why the (then) Redskins fans were happy to say "good riddance".

But we'll see what the year brings. Of course there is a built in excuse for him in 2022, that being a 'new system'. I'm sure 2023 will have its share of excuses, err reasons.

I'm ok with the 'new system' excuse having no validity this upcoming year. I do believe, however, we have to give him this next year without reservation - I mean either that or one could be looked upon as one who actually found nothing wrong with Zimmer and his alleged interference with not only the offense but Cousins as well.

With the two good WRs, Cook, maybe Irv Smith, and a passing coordinator as HC, it's been said Cousins has some of the best weapons in the league and the table is set. Barring injuries I think he will put up great stats.

But if one believes the QB is the focal point of the offense and really, outside of a generational defense, the team, I don't see him suddenly transitioning to a leader who has the moxie to put the team on his back when the chips are down or to find his own way out of a tough situation.

Some analyst recently said he is a system QB. I think that's a perfect description. He'll go as far as the system dictates... instead of making up for deficiencies.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Dave Odle

I can see the Cousins analysis both ways. On the one hand, he puts up ridiculous, gawdy stats from time to time and that makes people take notice. For example, if this was a fantasy QB, I'd probably feel okay rolling the dice. Like was mentioned before, however; it seems like we have witnessed his ceiling. It's not a bad ceiling, either. Think like Tony Romo or some other starting QB who could get everyone excited, but inevitably fizzled.

The hope is that O' Connell can work smoother w/ Cousins as an offensive mind and QB coach and elevate that ceiling. It's not as common so late in a QB's career, but it's happened when players and coaches gel just right. I don't mind Cousins and think you could do worse, but I think he lacks a killer instinct to improvise during broken plays/audibles. I think you kind of have that awareness or you don't to extend plays and sandlot a little bit. It's honestly what makes Romo a slightly better QB because of that added athleticism.

Personally, I'd like for this to be Cousins' last season as a Viking and to find our QBOTF in the upcoming draft, along w/ a solid veteran backup QB. Mond can obviously compete for QB1 or QB2. We honestly don't know what he can do and I don't trust a Zimmer evaluation of a QB for offensive coaching.

Improvisation/pulling a play out of his ass is undoubtedly Cousins weakest area. However, I would like for this to be the first of many remaining Cousins seasons with the Vikings leading to multiple Super Bowl wins.

Let's win a SB with him then kick his ass out of here ... you know, because he's just don't like him

- I personally don't know how we can judge his weakest area when we know he had limitations put on him but we don't know to what extent ... other than you know he couldn't even call a much needed TO even when the coach clearly spaced it out

He was the same way in Washington, and maybe that's why the (then) Redskins fans were happy to say "good riddance".

But we'll see what the year brings. Of course there is a built in excuse for him in 2022, that being a 'new system'. I'm sure 2023 will have its share of excuses, err reasons.

I'm ok with the 'new system' excuse having no validity this upcoming year. I do believe, however, we have to give him this next year without reservation - I mean either that or one could be looked upon as one who actually found nothing wrong with Zimmer and his alleged interference with not only the offense but Cousins as well.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

Cousins just has no swag ...

https://twitter.com/ChairwOpinion/status/1536044842299494400?s=20&t=psVDX-EGO1GCVj-C9TXu7Q

I don't like swag. I'm glad he has none.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

KC has a chance to go from 33-29-1as a Viking to something like 60-36-1 with a SB win over the next few years.

Can't be anything less than revered at that point.

I would have cast him off but never really hated him. It'll be interesting to watch the transformation.

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ORIGINAL: marty

It's too bad the Vikings didn't sign Keenum, he would have been a decent back QB.

About the only thing I see stopping the Bills from winning it all is Leslie, or a boatload of injuries.

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ORIGINAL: marty

It's too bad the Vikings didn't sign Keenum, he would have been a decent back QB.

About the only thing I see stopping the Bills from winning it all is Leslie, or a boatload of injuries.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

Reports abound that the Vikings have ongoing contract negotiations with Ndamukong Suh. I'd say it's better than 50/50 that we sign him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twkmPuMJIUo

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

Reports abound that the Vikings have ongoing contract negotiations with Ndamukong Suh. I'd say it's better than 50/50 that we sign him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twkmPuMJIUo

That’s interesting. How much does he have in the tank?

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: marty

It's too bad the Vikings didn't sign Keenum, he would have been a decent back QB.

About the only thing I see stopping the Bills from winning it all is Leslie, or a boatload of injuries.

The only thing I see stopping the Bills from winning it all is another team beating them.