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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Nope, add SF to your list Tom. They would overpower us. Ravens, we would have a chance.

No one could know that ... not with this team

Stepping back just a bit, our team is a notch below the better teams. You can choose to ignore it or dismiss it or whatever.

It's a lot of fun seeing us consistently beat other similar or worse teams ... and beat somebody like the Bills that are generally considered better (although that has come down a bit). Our resilience has been awesome and missing for a long time.

But ... is it okay to talk about our chances as something other than just a floaty bird thing with fluffy wings?

GZUZ, its just trying to be honest about competition level and the big picture.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

The Patriots D had given up 8.6 ppg in their 6 games prior to last night.

Lions (the early Oct version)
@ Browns
Bears
@ Jets
Colts
Jets

No Greatest Show on Turf teams there.

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Sure, but they do average 21.6 ppg collectively, that would be more like 23 ppg if you don't include the NE games

Before that,
Ravens 37pts
@ Packers 27 points

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That would be the late Sept early Oct version of the Pats

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Nope, add SF to your list Tom. They would overpower us. Ravens, we would have a chance.

No one could know that ... not with this team

Stepping back just a bit, our team is a notch below the better teams. You can choose to ignore it or dismiss it or whatever.

It's a lot of fun seeing us consistently beat other similar or worse teams ... and beat somebody like the Bills that are generally considered better (although that has come down a bit). Our resilience has been awesome and missing for a long time.

But ... is it okay to talk about our chances as something other than just a floaty bird thing with fluffy wings?

GZUZ, its just trying to be honest about competition level and the big picture.

Sure it is! But let me ask you something, is it okay for me to give an opinion about what I think, especially when someone thinks SF is all that? I'm saying, how can you tell what this team is going to do?

Bill basically gave no weight to Todd O's post saying "Pats D had given up 8.6 ppg in their 6 games prior to last night" based on their strength of schedule.

I'm being fluffy because I don't buy into 5-5 SF who's played 8 teams without a winning record to date?

I'll save my negativity for something better than that

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Nope, add SF to your list Tom. They would overpower us. Ravens, we would have a chance.

No one could know that ... not with this team

Stepping back just a bit, our team is a notch below the better teams. You can choose to ignore it or dismiss it or whatever.

It's a lot of fun seeing us consistently beat other similar or worse teams ... and beat somebody like the Bills that are generally considered better (although that has come down a bit). Our resilience has been awesome and missing for a long time.

But ... is it okay to talk about our chances as something other than just a floaty bird thing with fluffy wings?

GZUZ, its just trying to be honest about competition level and the big picture.

Sure it is! But let me ask you something, is it okay for me to give an opinion about what I think, especially when someone thinks SF is all that? I'm saying, how can you tell what this team is going to do?

Bill basically gave no weight to Todd O's post saying "Pats D had given up 8.6 ppg in their 6 games prior to last night" based on their strength of schedule.

I'm being fluffy because I don't buy into 5-5 SF who's played 8 teams without a winning record to date?

I'll save my negativity for something better than that

Dismissing an opinion with 'who knows' or 'you don't know that' is not offering an opinion. It's just saying what goes without saying.

At least Bill answered Todd with a legitimate rebuttal. You might not think the response 'gave weight' because its not in your negativity-protected happy place ... but at least Bill researched his answer. Kind of like if I pointed out the 49ers are 6-4, not 5-5.

Offering the lamest asininish cockamamiest kookiest most-harebrainiest opinion - as I often do - AND THEN adding 'but who knows ..' is at least something.

"You don't know that' by itself ... not a lot of anything. IMO.

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Allen

Vikes need to somewhat blow it up next year.

Get rid of Cook, Kendricks, and Harrison Smith.

Restructure Thielen.

Draft WR, CB, DT, LB, S, QB?

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Nope, add SF to your list Tom. They would overpower us. Ravens, we would have a chance.

No one could know that ... not with this team

Stepping back just a bit, our team is a notch below the better teams. You can choose to ignore it or dismiss it or whatever.

It's a lot of fun seeing us consistently beat other similar or worse teams ... and beat somebody like the Bills that are generally considered better (although that has come down a bit). Our resilience has been awesome and missing for a long time.

But ... is it okay to talk about our chances as something other than just a floaty bird thing with fluffy wings?

GZUZ, its just trying to be honest about competition level and the big picture.

Sure it is! But let me ask you something, is it okay for me to give an opinion about what I think, especially when someone thinks SF is all that? I'm saying, how can you tell what this team is going to do?

Bill basically gave no weight to Todd O's post saying "Pats D had given up 8.6 ppg in their 6 games prior to last night" based on their strength of schedule.

I'm being fluffy because I don't buy into 5-5 SF who's played 8 teams without a winning record to date?

I'll save my negativity for something better than that

Dismissing an opinion with 'who knows' or 'you don't know that' is not offering an opinion. It's just saying what goes without saying.

At least Bill answered Todd with a legitimate rebuttal. You might not think the response 'gave weight' because its not in your negativity-protected happy place ... but at least Bill researched his answer. Kind of like if I pointed out the 49ers are 6-4, not 5-5.

Offering the lamest asininish cockamamiest kookiest most-harebrainiest opinion - as I often do - AND THEN adding 'but who knows ..' is at least something.

"You don't know that' by itself ... not a lot of anything. IMO.

Nice. You mad, Tom?

You're flowery insults never stop impressing - Do you teach creative writing or do you just think your cute style of writing impresses everyone?

This is not a legitimate rebuttal: I don't buy into 5-5 SF who's played 8 teams without a winning record to date?

I didn't research it? How long do you think it took me to put the list of playing teams with winning records together?

FU

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Liked seeing Cousins slamming the ball down when they - yet again - couldn't get the play off in time.

Are the playcalls too long? X-right, fluff, fluff, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, on... seven.

Every game, they have to burn timeouts.

Even with everyone lining up with ten seconds to go can be dicey as they go through a litany of shit. Just hike the damn ball.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Nope, add SF to your list Tom. They would overpower us. Ravens, we would have a chance.

No one could know that ... not with this team

Stepping back just a bit, our team is a notch below the better teams. You can choose to ignore it or dismiss it or whatever.

It's a lot of fun seeing us consistently beat other similar or worse teams ... and beat somebody like the Bills that are generally considered better (although that has come down a bit). Our resilience has been awesome and missing for a long time.

But ... is it okay to talk about our chances as something other than just a floaty bird thing with fluffy wings?

GZUZ, its just trying to be honest about competition level and the big picture.

Sure it is! But let me ask you something, is it okay for me to give an opinion about what I think, especially when someone thinks SF is all that? I'm saying, how can you tell what this team is going to do?

Bill basically gave no weight to Todd O's post saying "Pats D had given up 8.6 ppg in their 6 games prior to last night" based on their strength of schedule.

I'm being fluffy because I don't buy into 5-5 SF who's played 8 teams without a winning record to date?

I'll save my negativity for something better than that

Dismissing an opinion with 'who knows' or 'you don't know that' is not offering an opinion. It's just saying what goes without saying.

At least Bill answered Todd with a legitimate rebuttal. You might not think the response 'gave weight' because its not in your negativity-protected happy place ... but at least Bill researched his answer. Kind of like if I pointed out the 49ers are 6-4, not 5-5.

Offering the lamest asininish cockamamiest kookiest most-harebrainiest opinion - as I often do - AND THEN adding 'but who knows ..' is at least something.

"You don't know that' by itself ... not a lot of anything. IMO.

Nice. You mad, Tom?

You're flowery insults never stop impressing - Do you teach creative writing or do you just think your cute style of writing impresses everyone?

This is not a legitimate rebuttal: I don't buy into 5-5 SF who's played 8 teams without a winning record to date?

I didn't research it? How long do you think it took me to put the list of playing teams with winning records together?

FU

Not mad at all Ricky.

I write the way I write. I apologize for it … I know its bent and over the top but thats just the way I keep myself interested.

I responded to ‘you dont know that’ … you can backfill that comment after the fact with all the argument you want. My reaction or over-reaction was based on you and Todd dissmissing an argument simply because it wasn’t positive.

I’m done with it, you should get over it too.

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ORIGINAL: eagleflorida

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Liked seeing Cousins slamming the ball down when they - yet again - couldn't get the play off in time.

Are the playcalls too long? X-right, fluff, fluff, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, on... seven.

Every game, they have to burn timeouts.

Even with everyone lining up with ten seconds to go can be dicey as they go through a litany of shit. Just hike the damn ball.

It's a real headscratcher for sure. Then you have to add in Cousin's covering the ear holes in his helmet cuz he can't hear the signal call.....AT HOME for crying out loud, that consumes priceless seconds.

But just keep on winning guys.

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ORIGINAL: eagleflorida

Then you have to add in Cousin's covering the ear holes in his helmet cuz he can't hear the signal call.....AT HOME for crying out loud, that consumes priceless seconds.

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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PFF….

Best
WR Justin Jefferson 86.1
QB Kirk Cousins 70.8
WR Adam Thielen 70.6

Worst
RB Dalvin Cook 54.9
LT Blake Brandel 55.2
RG Ed Ingram 57.2

Best
ILB Eric Kendricks 81.8
OLB Za’Darius Smith 79.7
CB Patrick Peterson 77.1

Worst
OLB D.J. Wonnum 47.9
S Camryn Bynum 52.0
DE Ross Blacklock 54.9

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: eagleflorida

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Liked seeing Cousins slamming the ball down when they - yet again - couldn't get the play off in time.

Are the playcalls too long? X-right, fluff, fluff, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, on... seven.

Every game, they have to burn timeouts.

Even with everyone lining up with ten seconds to go can be dicey as they go through a litany of shit. Just hike the damn ball.

It's a real headscratcher for sure. Then you have to add in Cousin's covering the ear holes in his helmet cuz he can't hear the signal call.....AT HOME for crying out loud, that consumes priceless seconds.

But just keep on winning guys.

Just spitballing cuz I didn't research when we couldn't get the next play off in time but I know one was after a deep pass to JJ. Most teams have trouble getting the next play ran in time due to players celebrating and then being tired and just stroll down the field and precious seconds tick off.

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

I should clarify about my SF opinion. We can beat anyone when we are on. We just suck against “power” teams and that’s what I see them as. We really struggle with teams that are great in the trenches. We have as much firepower as anyone but if we get no time we are screwed.

I’ve been more supportive on Cousins than most but lets be honest. When he gets off his axis he’s not very good. And don’t even get me started on the D. They are just old and soft as hell.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Anyone else notice how Cook seems less elusive than in the past?

That pass out in the flat around the NE 10-15 yard line where he had space would normally have been a TD. Instead he looked like Rudy and was tackled by the first defender.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: eagleflorida

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Liked seeing Cousins slamming the ball down when they - yet again - couldn't get the play off in time.

Are the playcalls too long? X-right, fluff, fluff, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, on... seven.

Every game, they have to burn timeouts.

Even with everyone lining up with ten seconds to go can be dicey as they go through a litany of shit. Just hike the damn ball.

It's a real headscratcher for sure. Then you have to add in Cousin's covering the ear holes in his helmet cuz he can't hear the signal call.....AT HOME for crying out loud, that consumes priceless seconds.

But just keep on winning guys.

Just spitballing cuz I didn't research when we couldn't get the next play off in time but I know one was after a deep pass to JJ. Most teams have trouble getting the next play ran in time due to players celebrating and then being tired and just stroll down the field and precious seconds tick off.

Yes one of those plays occurred after what I think was a 36 yard pass. Not 60 or 80 yards. Shit, what would they do if Moss was on the team catching bombs.

With KOC spouting War & Peace every play, they have time to stroll 30 yards (huddling behind the LOS).