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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2022 7:47:40 AM

marty

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I think the Vikings match up poorly against Dallas and Philly.

It would be best if those 2 get upset.

The weird part about SF, I think the Vikings would more likely pull the upset in SF, then at home. Nobody would expect Minnesota to win at SF (just like at Buffalo), so the Vikes would probably surprise.

At home, many would be thinking the Vikes could upset SF, but SF would practice extra hard, look at film how Minnesota came back against Indy, and realize they need to seal the deal with their DL. Having Minnesota at home, SF is more likely to overlook or underestimate Minnesota.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2022 7:52:11 AM

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Brad,
All I know is everything went wrong against the Colts (INT Return, Blocked Punt, 2 fumble recoveries for TD ignored, and giving up the ball inside your own 50 twice) and they still came back and won.

Are you ok with Kirk now? 7 game winning drives this year.

Oh yeah....the bucs. Didn't they get outscored 27-0 after a 17-0 lead at home?

Eagles....they just about got beat by the Bears.

I agree on the 49ers being tough.

The Vikes came off of a tough week against a very tough Jets team and the Colts came off of a bye week.

Cousins has played better football this season. He's still Kirk Cousins. If a guy has been in the league for 10 years, he's going to have good stretches and bad stretches. He's had a good stretch in 2022. But again, he's still Kirk Cousins. He's protected the ball better in 2022. I'll give him that.

The Vikings have had the fortunes of facing quarterbacks in tough spots in 2022. Week one they faced Rodgers with all new weapons and no preseason experience. Week four they had Andy Dalton, who had just come in to replace the starter. Week 6 it was a backup in Teddy Bridgewater. Week 8 it was Heinicke, who was taking over for Wentz. Week 9 it was Josh Allen with a bad wing. Week 12 it was Mike White.

< Message edited by Brad H -- 12/21/2022 8:00:32 AM >

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2022 7:56:23 AM

Brad H

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I think the Vikings match up poorly against Dallas and Philly.

It would be best if those 2 get upset.

The weird part about SF, I think the Vikings would more likely pull the upset in SF, then at home. Nobody would expect Minnesota to win at SF (just like at Buffalo), so the Vikes would probably surprise.

At home, many would be thinking the Vikes could upset SF, but SF would practice extra hard, look at film how Minnesota came back against Indy, and realize they need to seal the deal with their DL. Having Minnesota at home, SF is more likely to overlook or underestimate Minnesota.

Yes and no. I could see San Francisco running the ball 40 straight times and the game being over in the middle of the second quarter. The Viking defense is a complete mess. Get behind 33-0 to San Francisco and the final score could be 60-0. Just way too many Chernobyl quarters from the Vikings to consider them a real threat. In order to beat the Eagles they would have to play four quarters of football. I haven't seen that since week one.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2022 7:56:52 AM

Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Brad,
All I know is everything went wrong against the Colts (INT Return, Blocked Punt, 2 fumble recoveries for TD ignored, and giving up the ball inside your own 50 twice) and they still came back and won.

Are you ok with Kirk now? 7 game winning drives this year.

Oh yeah....the bucs. Didn't they get outscored 27-0 after a 17-0 lead at home?

Eagles....they just about got beat by the Bears.

I agree on the 49ers being tough.

The Vikes came off of a tough week against a very tough Jets team and the Colts came off of a bye week.

Cousins has played better football this season. He's still Kirk Cousins. If a guy has been in the league for 10 years, he's going to have good stretches and bad stretches. He's had a good stretch in 2022. But again, he's still Kirk Cousins. He's protected the ball better in 2022.

The Vikings have had the fortunes of facing quarterbacks in tough spots in 2022. Week one they faced Rodgers with all new weapons and no preseason experience. Week four they had Andy Dalton, who had just come in to replace the starter. Week 6 it was a backup in Teddy Bridgewater. Week 8 it was Heinicke, who was taking over for Wentz. Week 9 it was Josh Allen with a bad wing. Week 12 it was Mike White.

Look at the Bucs schedule...Dalton x2, Darnold and Baker, Mariota and Ridder....that is the beacon of facing tough QBs I guess.

Bucs lost to Rodgers 14-12 the next week.

Lost to Trubisky (Pitt)
Best QB they have beaten is Stafford.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2022 7:59:06 AM

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Brad,
All I know is everything went wrong against the Colts (INT Return, Blocked Punt, 2 fumble recoveries for TD ignored, and giving up the ball inside your own 50 twice) and they still came back and won.

Are you ok with Kirk now? 7 game winning drives this year.

Oh yeah....the bucs. Didn't they get outscored 27-0 after a 17-0 lead at home?

Eagles....they just about got beat by the Bears.

I agree on the 49ers being tough.

The Vikes came off of a tough week against a very tough Jets team and the Colts came off of a bye week.

Cousins has played better football this season. He's still Kirk Cousins. If a guy has been in the league for 10 years, he's going to have good stretches and bad stretches. He's had a good stretch in 2022. But again, he's still Kirk Cousins. He's protected the ball better in 2022.

The Vikings have had the fortunes of facing quarterbacks in tough spots in 2022. Week one they faced Rodgers with all new weapons and no preseason experience. Week four they had Andy Dalton, who had just come in to replace the starter. Week 6 it was a backup in Teddy Bridgewater. Week 8 it was Heinicke, who was taking over for Wentz. Week 9 it was Josh Allen with a bad wing. Week 12 it was Mike White.

Look at the Bucs schedule...Dalton x2, Darnold and Baker, Mariota and Ridder....that is the beacon of facing tough QBs I guess.

The Bucs are terrible. The only reason they remain in the conversation is their division. Not sure why you keep bringing them up.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2022 8:01:23 AM

Phil Riewer

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Brad,
All I know is everything went wrong against the Colts (INT Return, Blocked Punt, 2 fumble recoveries for TD ignored, and giving up the ball inside your own 50 twice) and they still came back and won.

Are you ok with Kirk now? 7 game winning drives this year.

Oh yeah....the bucs. Didn't they get outscored 27-0 after a 17-0 lead at home?

Eagles....they just about got beat by the Bears.

I agree on the 49ers being tough.

The Vikes came off of a tough week against a very tough Jets team and the Colts came off of a bye week.

Cousins has played better football this season. He's still Kirk Cousins. If a guy has been in the league for 10 years, he's going to have good stretches and bad stretches. He's had a good stretch in 2022. But again, he's still Kirk Cousins. He's protected the ball better in 2022.

The Vikings have had the fortunes of facing quarterbacks in tough spots in 2022. Week one they faced Rodgers with all new weapons and no preseason experience. Week four they had Andy Dalton, who had just come in to replace the starter. Week 6 it was a backup in Teddy Bridgewater. Week 8 it was Heinicke, who was taking over for Wentz. Week 9 it was Josh Allen with a bad wing. Week 12 it was Mike White.

Look at the Bucs schedule...Dalton x2, Darnold and Baker, Mariota and Ridder....that is the beacon of facing tough QBs I guess.

The Bucs are terrible. The only reason they remain in the conversation is their division.

You used them in your example.

Ill take beating Allen on the Road and Rodgers any time.

If I remember right Kirk is 5-2 against Rodgers.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2022 8:03:25 AM

Brad H

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Brad,
All I know is everything went wrong against the Colts (INT Return, Blocked Punt, 2 fumble recoveries for TD ignored, and giving up the ball inside your own 50 twice) and they still came back and won.

Are you ok with Kirk now? 7 game winning drives this year.

Oh yeah....the bucs. Didn't they get outscored 27-0 after a 17-0 lead at home?

Eagles....they just about got beat by the Bears.

I agree on the 49ers being tough.

The Vikes came off of a tough week against a very tough Jets team and the Colts came off of a bye week.

Cousins has played better football this season. He's still Kirk Cousins. If a guy has been in the league for 10 years, he's going to have good stretches and bad stretches. He's had a good stretch in 2022. But again, he's still Kirk Cousins. He's protected the ball better in 2022.

The Vikings have had the fortunes of facing quarterbacks in tough spots in 2022. Week one they faced Rodgers with all new weapons and no preseason experience. Week four they had Andy Dalton, who had just come in to replace the starter. Week 6 it was a backup in Teddy Bridgewater. Week 8 it was Heinicke, who was taking over for Wentz. Week 9 it was Josh Allen with a bad wing. Week 12 it was Mike White.

Look at the Bucs schedule...Dalton x2, Darnold and Baker, Mariota and Ridder....that is the beacon of facing tough QBs I guess.

The Bucs are terrible. The only reason they remain in the conversation is their division.

You used them in your example.

I did. I said; "The Bucs are awful on offense, and at-best mediocre on defense. Brady is finished. At this point, he's only tarnishing what has been a phenomenal career. His receivers drop a ton of passes and the coaching combination of Todd Bowles and Byron Leftwich have got to go."

The win against Buffalo on the road was the best win of the season, IMO. No doubt about that. Buffalo has a very good defense. The Vikings made them look pedestrian.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2022 8:12:13 AM

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If I'm the Vikings I want Detroit to make the playoffs. With the Lions as the 6-seed they could knock off a team like San Francisco or Dallas on a good day. I don't see the Giants, Washington or Seattle doing that. The Vikings need some dominoes to fall in order to get to Philly. And Detroit has the potential to give the Eagles some problems. IMO, the Lions are the team that neither Philly, Dallas or San Francisco wants to see squeak into the playoffs.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2022 8:19:43 AM

Phil Riewer

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If I'm the Vikings I want Detroit to make the playoffs. With the Lions as the 6-seed they could knock off a team like San Francisco or Dallas on a good day. I don't see the Giants, Washington or Seattle doing that. The Vikings need some dominoes to fall in order to get to Philly. And Detroit has the potential to give the Eagles some problems. IMO, the Lions are the team that neither Philly, Dallas or San Francisco wants to see squeak into the playoffs.

They may have a let down after the Jets; very physical team.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2022 8:31:57 AM

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The team nobody is talking about in the AFC right now is the Chargers. They are playing very good football and have gotten healthy in recent weeks with Allen and Williams returning. They have a very soft schedule remaining and could end up 11-6.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2022 8:39:04 AM

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Minnesota is an above average team that happens to have a glossy record.

- That record was helped by playing a string of backup QBs, having only seven pure road games in a 17 game season, extreme luck (for example the Bills fumbling in the EZ to survive a sure loss).

- They were massacred by Philly and Dallas. They played well against Buffalo in what was for Vikings fans just a great game.

- They routinely allow QBs - especially inexperienced QBs - to have career or near-career days because their pass defense is crap.

It's good to enjoy the ride and with incredible/one for the ages good fortune the season will continue well in the playoffs, but it looks like people have convinced themselves the 11-3 record is legit.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2022 9:22:16 AM

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The team nobody is talking about in the AFC right now is the Chargers. They are playing very good football and have gotten healthy in recent weeks with Allen and Williams returning. They have a very soft schedule remaining and could end up 11-6.

Their coach is an idiot.

Best thing that could happen to them is to lose out and get Sean Payton for 2023.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2022 9:30:59 AM

Brad H

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The team nobody is talking about in the AFC right now is the Chargers. They are playing very good football and have gotten healthy in recent weeks with Allen and Williams returning. They have a very soft schedule remaining and could end up 11-6.

Their coach is an idiot.

Best thing that could happen to them is to lose out and get Sean Payton for 2023.

Completely agree on the coach. So tired about hearing the term analytics. It's not baseball. Going for it on your own 30 is just stupid. He's one of the biggest abusers of logical decision making, and gets burned often. He somehow managed to escape last week. Lost at least three games for the Chargers in 2021.

Having said that, it's a team with a lot of talent.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2022 10:31:40 AM

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Ahhh, bs post - deleted ... rip me for it if you want

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2022 10:45:43 AM

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Ahhh .

Andrew Krammer:

Josh Rosen said he first met Kevin O'Connell in high school during the 2014 Elite 11 national QB camp when O'Connell was helping coach.

KOC: "A guy I’ve kind of known for a long time.. think a lot of Josh and his talent. I think he has a high ceiling as a quarterback."

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2022 11:16:49 AM 1 votes

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Minnesota is an above average team that happens to have a glossy record.

- That record was helped by playing a string of backup QBs, having only seven pure road games in a 17 game season, extreme luck (for example the Bills fumbling in the EZ to survive a sure loss).

- They were massacred by Philly and Dallas. They played well against Buffalo in what was for Vikings fans just a great game.

- They routinely allow QBs - especially inexperienced QBs - to have career or near-career days because their pass defense is crap.

It's good to enjoy the ride and with incredible/one for the ages good fortune the season will continue well in the playoffs, but it looks like people have convinced themselves the 11-3 record is legit.

The one thing this team has going for it that better Vikings teams from the past didn't is that they are clutch. They don't pee down their leg when the pressure is on. The team is flawed in many ways, but they do have the best WR in the game and a guy who can get him the ball well if given time. They are fortunate to have the 11-3 record and are underdogs to win the SB, but I'm going to enjoy rooting for them anyway.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2022 12:32:27 PM

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Minnesota is an above average team that happens to have a glossy record.

- That record was helped by playing a string of backup QBs, having only seven pure road games in a 17 game season, extreme luck (for example the Bills fumbling in the EZ to survive a sure loss).

- They were massacred by Philly and Dallas. They played well against Buffalo in what was for Vikings fans just a great game.

- They routinely allow QBs - especially inexperienced QBs - to have career or near-career days because their pass defense is crap.

It's good to enjoy the ride and with incredible/one for the ages good fortune the season will continue well in the playoffs, but it looks like people have convinced themselves the 11-3 record is legit.

The one thing this team has going for it that better Vikings teams from the past didn't is that they are clutch. They don't pee down their leg when the pressure is on. The team is flawed in many ways, but they do have the best WR in the game and a guy who can get him the ball well if given time. They are fortunate to have the 11-3 record and are underdogs to win the SB, but I'm going to enjoy rooting for them anyway.

We are all going to root for them. Some of us by praying ... some of us by displaying bendable Hellraiser action figures in pentagrams (you know who you are). I myself will add a mountain of jalapenos to my magical nachos recipe and sacrifice my body for the team.

But I'm sorry, regular season clutch against middling teams has been done before, just never on the scale of this year.

IMO we will need to make noise in the playoffs to even be in the same conversation as other 'real good Viking teams'. I don't expect another miracle ending like 2017 but they'd have to at least show up in the NFCG and make a game of it for this season to surpass 2017, as an example. In my book anyway.

If they fall short of that ... I will still consider this an amazing thrilling season ... by a team that crushed expectations all season long. Until it really mattered. That's not a lot different than other Viking teams.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2022 12:34:26 PM

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But absolutely hoping for the best.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2022 12:35:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Minnesota is an above average team that happens to have a glossy record.

- That record was helped by playing a string of backup QBs, having only seven pure road games in a 17 game season, extreme luck (for example the Bills fumbling in the EZ to survive a sure loss).

- They were massacred by Philly and Dallas. They played well against Buffalo in what was for Vikings fans just a great game.

- They routinely allow QBs - especially inexperienced QBs - to have career or near-career days because their pass defense is crap.

It's good to enjoy the ride and with incredible/one for the ages good fortune the season will continue well in the playoffs, but it looks like people have convinced themselves the 11-3 record is legit.

The one thing this team has going for it that better Vikings teams from the past didn't is that they are clutch. They don't pee down their leg when the pressure is on. The team is flawed in many ways, but they do have the best WR in the game and a guy who can get him the ball well if given time. They are fortunate to have the 11-3 record and are underdogs to win the SB, but I'm going to enjoy rooting for them anyway.

Good stuff, mon!

And, nah, I don't think anyone really believes we're a traditional 11-3 great. We're the new 11-3 great. My how the world is changing.

Yeah, obviously we're not the 75 Steelers with a 200+ pt diff (in a 14 game season no less). And most people wouldn't confuse our record with being as good as the 99 Rams. But I don't see anyone turning off their TVs and just maybe we can some how get on the Worst team to win a SB list like the 07 Giants or be the flip opp of the 00 Ravens.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2022 12:57:40 PM

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Minnesota is an above average team that happens to have a glossy record.

- That record was helped by playing a string of backup QBs, having only seven pure road games in a 17 game season, extreme luck (for example the Bills fumbling in the EZ to survive a sure loss).

- They were massacred by Philly and Dallas. They played well against Buffalo in what was for Vikings fans just a great game.

- They routinely allow QBs - especially inexperienced QBs - to have career or near-career days because their pass defense is crap.

It's good to enjoy the ride and with incredible/one for the ages good fortune the season will continue well in the playoffs, but it looks like people have convinced themselves the 11-3 record is legit.

The one thing this team has going for it that better Vikings teams from the past didn't is that they are clutch. They don't pee down their leg when the pressure is on. The team is flawed in many ways, but they do have the best WR in the game and a guy who can get him the ball well if given time. They are fortunate to have the 11-3 record and are underdogs to win the SB, but I'm going to enjoy rooting for them anyway.

Good stuff, mon!

And, nah, I don't think anyone really believes we're a traditional 11-3 great. We're the new 11-3 great. My how the world is changing.

Yeah, obviously we're not the 75 Steelers with a 200+ pt diff (in a 14 game season no less). And most people wouldn't confuse our record with being as good as the 99 Rams. But I don't see anyone turning off their TVs and just maybe we can some how get on the Worst team to win a SB list like the 07 Giants or be the flip opp of the 00 Ravens.

good one.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2022 1:24:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Minnesota is an above average team that happens to have a glossy record.

- That record was helped by playing a string of backup QBs, having only seven pure road games in a 17 game season, extreme luck (for example the Bills fumbling in the EZ to survive a sure loss).

- They were massacred by Philly and Dallas. They played well against Buffalo in what was for Vikings fans just a great game.

- They routinely allow QBs - especially inexperienced QBs - to have career or near-career days because their pass defense is crap.

It's good to enjoy the ride and with incredible/one for the ages good fortune the season will continue well in the playoffs, but it looks like people have convinced themselves the 11-3 record is legit.

The one thing this team has going for it that better Vikings teams from the past didn't is that they are clutch. They don't pee down their leg when the pressure is on. The team is flawed in many ways, but they do have the best WR in the game and a guy who can get him the ball well if given time. They are fortunate to have the 11-3 record and are underdogs to win the SB, but I'm going to enjoy rooting for them anyway.

Good stuff, mon!

And, nah, I don't think anyone really believes we're a traditional 11-3 great. We're the new 11-3 great. My how the world is changing.

Yeah, obviously we're not the 75 Steelers with a 200+ pt diff (in a 14 game season no less). And most people wouldn't confuse our record with being as good as the 99 Rams. But I don't see anyone turning off their TVs and just maybe we can some how get on the Worst team to win a SB list like the 07 Giants or be the flip opp of the 00 Ravens.

good one.

I'd be good with that. The 87 Twins are considered one of the weakest World Series winners of all time. I still love that team.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2022 2:40:19 PM

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Minnesota is an above average team that happens to have a glossy record.

- That record was helped by playing a string of backup QBs, having only seven pure road games in a 17 game season, extreme luck (for example the Bills fumbling in the EZ to survive a sure loss).

- They were massacred by Philly and Dallas. They played well against Buffalo in what was for Vikings fans just a great game.

- They routinely allow QBs - especially inexperienced QBs - to have career or near-career days because their pass defense is crap.

It's good to enjoy the ride and with incredible/one for the ages good fortune the season will continue well in the playoffs, but it looks like people have convinced themselves the 11-3 record is legit.

The one thing this team has going for it that better Vikings teams from the past didn't is that they are clutch. They don't pee down their leg when the pressure is on. The team is flawed in many ways, but they do have the best WR in the game and a guy who can get him the ball well if given time. They are fortunate to have the 11-3 record and are underdogs to win the SB, but I'm going to enjoy rooting for them anyway.

They say a team will take on the personality of their HC.

If this is the case Zimmer was nothing more than a blowhard pee down your leg mental midget.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2022 3:46:46 PM

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Minnesota is an above average team that happens to have a glossy record.

- That record was helped by playing a string of backup QBs, having only seven pure road games in a 17 game season, extreme luck (for example the Bills fumbling in the EZ to survive a sure loss).

- They were massacred by Philly and Dallas. They played well against Buffalo in what was for Vikings fans just a great game.

- They routinely allow QBs - especially inexperienced QBs - to have career or near-career days because their pass defense is crap.

It's good to enjoy the ride and with incredible/one for the ages good fortune the season will continue well in the playoffs, but it looks like people have convinced themselves the 11-3 record is legit.

I agree, the record defies 'you are what your record says you are' ...

although I would add, we may not be considered upper echelon in other seasons but we stand toe to toe with most of this year's watered down contenders (in our conference). The illegitimacy is spread out wide like so much avocado oil mayonnaise.

The one or two teams in our conference that most people think are head and shoulders above the rest, have not been playing that well lately.

(Are Philly and Dal that much better than us or did they just catch us on a lousy game when they were at their best?)

I don't know. I mean, do the top AFC teams seem like they are playing at an unbeatable level this season? I don't think so.

A lot of this is up for grabs. More than usual.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2022 4:10:45 PM

Bill Johanesen

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But absolutely hoping for the best.

And don't forget the obligatory "And I'll be rooting for them" add-on to the pseudo die-hard themes.

A look in the Game Day Thread seeing how people 'root' for the team week in and week out shows few stick through a quarter, half, or game without wanting things blown up right then and there. LMAO!

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/21/2022 4:21:08 PM

Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

But absolutely hoping for the best.

And don't forget the obligatory "And I'll be rooting for them" add-on to the pseudo die-hard themes.

A look in the Game Day Thread seeing how people 'root' for the team week in and week out shows few stick through a quarter, half, or game without wanting things blown up right then and there. LMAO!

I'd be fun for everyone to laugh at themselves a little and admit where your head was at during worst moments of that game. I think I only posted once and to say the poor folks who wasted the time, money and energy going to the game. And poor little Johnny being at his first game.

Hopefully Johnny won't have to say, "Yeah, and Dad made us leave at half-time" when he gets a little older.

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