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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/26/2022 11:38:00 AM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/26/2022 11:49:46 AM  1 votes
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Status: offline 		Good stuff Bill and TJ.

I still maintain that switching Ingram to his more natural position of LG during the off-season will cure the stepsies problem.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/26/2022 11:54:02 AM   
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The Packers beat the Vikings next weekend, then SF likely gets the #2 seed, and GB is going to SF in wildcard round. The Vikings get the Giants, and the Bucs get the Cowboys. I see this as the most likely scenario right now.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/26/2022 12:03:11 PM   
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I predicted about 14 wins this os. A SB as well. But I was envisioning a very different team. The reality of what they are falls short in a few ways but is also this giant wonderful thing.

I'm worried about what falling short this year will feel like. Pre living imagined anxiety and depression.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/26/2022 12:22:32 PM   
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Good stuff Bill and TJ.

I still maintain that switching Ingram to his more natural position of LG during the off-season will cure the stepsies problem.

No it wouldn't. The problem is that he takes a humongous first step back and in on the pass block. The only difference would be that the giant step back and right instead of back and left. The issue is technique, not side.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/26/2022 12:35:53 PM   
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Maybe Kirk fumbles, and Ingram picks up the loose ball to score the game winner ?

A fumbled snap caused by Ingram stepping on Cousins foot again.

Kirk is switching to steal toed boots the rest of the season

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i believe the foot-stepping is because ingram played left-guard for four years at lsu....


added: just read marty's post above - i agree with him....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/26/2022 12:55:12 PM   
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Good stuff Bill and TJ.

I still maintain that switching Ingram to his more natural position of LG during the off-season will cure the stepsies problem.

About the only scenario where i could see this happening is if we let Ezra walk (being he will be a FA) and we draft a plug and play RG.

Both Bradbury and Cleveland are set to become FA's this off season. I'd prefer to move on from both but we have little to no depth. I think Ezra is more suited to play LT. He gets bullied too much as a G but is certainly the better player of the two.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/26/2022 12:59:01 PM   
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Good stuff Bill and TJ.

I still maintain that switching Ingram to his more natural position of LG during the off-season will cure the stepsies problem.

No it wouldn't. The problem is that he takes a humongous first step back and in on the pass block. The only difference would be that the giant step back and right instead of back and left. The issue is technique, not side.

Good point. His technique is still very sloppy and switching sides might take a year to readjust too. As a result both of Kirk's feet might even out and we will have a running qb.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/26/2022 1:38:27 PM   
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- I'm a sad creature to sit here and worry about GB, I know
- I guess the flip would be, How cool would it be to beat them in the first round?

How cool would it be to just beat the crap out of them this week and not worry about them in the first round?

And in turn, beat each team we play through the Super Bowl, and none of the worries about who we play and when matter.

Just take care of business, even if it has to come down to a last second FG
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/26/2022 1:45:35 PM   
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Wash hosts the hapless eliminated Browns and then the Cowboys who will more than likely be resting their starters

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/26/2022 1:53:30 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/26/2022 2:09:45 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/26/2022 2:11:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		....switching sides might take a year to readjust too. As a result both of Kirk's feet might even out and we will have a running qb.

Lol 🤣🤣

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/26/2022 2:40:36 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/26/2022 2:47:48 PM   
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pff's cornerback ratings....

patrick peterson #7
duke shelley #14

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/26/2022 2:58:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Is there any analysis on best average pff for teams offensive and defensive average rankings and how that equates to W’s and L’s ?

Sort of use it for predicting game outcomes?
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/26/2022 3:40:37 PM   
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Pts Against Per Game
Minnesota 28th 24.9
Green Bay 17th 22.3

Total Yards Against Per Game
Minnesota 31st 402.27
Green Bay 17th 336.80

Passing Yards Against Per Game
Minnesota 32nd 281.47
Green Bay 3rd 192.40
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/26/2022 4:12:23 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/26/2022 4:17:27 PM   
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How cool would it be to just beat the crap out of them this week and not worry about them in the first round?



Best case scenario!
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/26/2022 5:16:59 PM   
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Is there any analysis on best average pff for teams offensive and defensive average rankings and how that equates to W’s and L’s ?

Sort of use it for predicting game outcomes?


As the season progresses, IMO the correlation is better but only because as teams win, it's either somewhat natural or intentional to bump up the scores of players. Then there is a likely halo effect for perennial All-Pros.

And like Zimmer said, it's very subjective because they don't know the play or assignments. And should a player get credit so to speak for plays where for example the D schemes to stop that player. Like Moss getting all kinds of coverage.

Even if it was accurate, you'd have to account for injuries (both where a player was out or hampered (and the latter could be masked)), the opponent player, grass vs artificial turf, home v away, etc.

Seems an average of the aggregate would be less accurate, i.e. you'd want to slice and dice the data.

Who knows though.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/26/2022 5:20:53 PM   
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FTP and anyone who thinks they might win for any FTP reason.

I want the NFCN Champion to hand them seats on the sidelines for the entire playoffs.

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**** THE PACK

LETS SEND THEM HOME FOR NO PLAYOFFSS..

RIDICULOUS RISE IN SPOUSAL ABUSE BE DAMNED..

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/26/2022 5:49:18 PM   
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Good stuff Bill and TJ.

I still maintain that switching Ingram to his more natural position of LG during the off-season will cure the stepsies problem.

About the only scenario where i could see this happening is if we let Ezra walk (being he will be a FA) and we draft a plug and play RG.

Both Bradbury and Cleveland are set to become FA's this off season. I'd prefer to move on from both but we have little to no depth. I think Ezra is more suited to play LT. He gets bullied too much as a G but is certainly the better player of the two.

Cleveland has another year on his contract. He'd be a FA after next season.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/27/2022 7:52:37 AM   
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Good stuff Bill and TJ.

I still maintain that switching Ingram to his more natural position of LG during the off-season will cure the stepsies problem.

About the only scenario where i could see this happening is if we let Ezra walk (being he will be a FA) and we draft a plug and play RG.

Both Bradbury and Cleveland are set to become FA's this off season. I'd prefer to move on from both but we have little to no depth. I think Ezra is more suited to play LT. He gets bullied too much as a G but is certainly the better player of the two.

Cleveland has another year on his contract. He'd be a FA after next season.

Thanks for the correction

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/27/2022 8:09:27 AM   
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The Bears waived both Duke Shelley and Khyiris Tonga on August 31 this year.

Both players are now playing at a high level for the Vikings, each posting a top 15 grade at their position. Either would be the highest-graded defender on the Bears' defense right now.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/27/2022 8:19:09 AM   
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Merry Christmas to all here !!

So with Pack still potentially making the Wild Card last spot, do we play next weekend to win and kick them out or coast and let them in that spot to potentially face them in first round in our house?

You win to get the 2 seed.

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