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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Because the cap charge for the current league year isn’t reduced until June, designating a player as a post-June 1 cut hasn’t been hugely advantageous for teams historically. Typically, by June, just about every notable free agent is off the board. However, this year is a bit of a different story – Jadeveon Clowney, Logan Ryan, Larry Warford, and other notable vets are still on the board.

Free agent opportunities aside, releasing a player in the spring and designating him a post-June 1 cut can be mutually beneficial for a player and his team. It allows the player to hit the market when potential suitors still have cap room and are still looking to add free agents, and it allows the club to spread out the player’s cap charge without having to actually wait until June 1 to release him — waiting until that point could mean paying roster or workout bonuses in the interim. Additionally, even if the team doesn’t need that June cap space for free agency, it can come in handy for signing draft picks.

If they are thinking of post June 1 cuts, it might be worth seeing who has any substantial 2023 roster bonuses or whatever category Brzez may have parked more millions.

When I was gathering the numbers I posted I used overthecap.com for the pre 6/1 and post 6/1 cut cap savings. The roster bonuses are listed on the site (1.5M for Thielen and 0.5M for HSmith). I assume they are including those in their cap savings.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Because the cap charge for the current league year isn’t reduced until June, designating a player as a post-June 1 cut hasn’t been hugely advantageous for teams historically. Typically, by June, just about every notable free agent is off the board. However, this year is a bit of a different story – Jadeveon Clowney, Logan Ryan, Larry Warford, and other notable vets are still on the board.

Free agent opportunities aside, releasing a player in the spring and designating him a post-June 1 cut can be mutually beneficial for a player and his team. It allows the player to hit the market when potential suitors still have cap room and are still looking to add free agents, and it allows the club to spread out the player’s cap charge without having to actually wait until June 1 to release him — waiting until that point could mean paying roster or workout bonuses in the interim. Additionally, even if the team doesn’t need that June cap space for free agency, it can come in handy for signing draft picks.

If they are thinking of post June 1 cuts, it might be worth seeing who has any substantial 2023 roster bonuses or whatever category Brzez may have parked more millions.

When I was gathering the numbers I posted I used overthecap.com for the pre 6/1 and post 6/1 cut cap savings. The roster bonuses are listed on the site (1.5M for Thielen and 0.5M for HSmith). I assume they are including those in their cap savings.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Because the cap charge for the current league year isn’t reduced until June, designating a player as a post-June 1 cut hasn’t been hugely advantageous for teams historically. Typically, by June, just about every notable free agent is off the board. However, this year is a bit of a different story – Jadeveon Clowney, Logan Ryan, Larry Warford, and other notable vets are still on the board.

Free agent opportunities aside, releasing a player in the spring and designating him a post-June 1 cut can be mutually beneficial for a player and his team. It allows the player to hit the market when potential suitors still have cap room and are still looking to add free agents, and it allows the club to spread out the player’s cap charge without having to actually wait until June 1 to release him — waiting until that point could mean paying roster or workout bonuses in the interim. Additionally, even if the team doesn’t need that June cap space for free agency, it can come in handy for signing draft picks.

If they are thinking of post June 1 cuts, it might be worth seeing who has any substantial 2023 roster bonuses or whatever category Brzez may have parked more millions.

When I was gathering the numbers I posted I used overthecap.com for the pre 6/1 and post 6/1 cut cap savings. The roster bonuses are listed on the site (1.5M for Thielen and 0.5M for HSmith). I assume they are including those in their cap savings.

I take that back. Thielen and HSmith have per-game roster bonuses so they won't come into play in a cut. Kirk has the only true roster bonus which is 20 million.

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ORIGINAL: Nate

Maybe a Cousins for Wilson swap with the Jets? Perhaps KOC could QB whisper Wilson into being more than a cougar conqueror.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

This Cousins talk is ridiculously pointless and frivolous. Cousins is the QB next year, for sure.

I'll be surprised if he's not the QB here for the two years after that as well (on an extension).

I could see them signing a cheap non-threatening reclamation project as a pure backup. Like a Darnold.

'We went 13-4! We know what we're doing! Third best team in our division come playoff time? Abject playoff failure? Donatell fired, problem solved!'

What a shame. I just don't think this regime will shoot higher.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

This Cousins talk is ridiculously pointless and frivolous. Cousins is the QB next year, for sure.

I'll be surprised if he's not the QB here for the two years after that as well (on an extension).

I could see them signing a cheap non-threatening reclamation project as a pure backup. Like a Darnold.

'We went 13-4! We know what we're doing! Third best team in our division come playoff time? Abject playoff failure? Donatell fired, problem solved!'

What a shame. I just don't think this regime will shoot higher.

Unfortanately I agree. Starts at the top. The Wilf's are more than satisfied that they can sell us the 13-4 season as a SB victory. Even though we all know were more or less a bottom feeder.

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

Jandro with a poop cannon at the internet wall..

Bradbury is not our biggest problem,

offense is not our biggest problem

Finding a defensive co-ordination and implementing a scheme that puts us in the position to win games even if the offense struggles against a good defense is far and away more important and a key to franchise success than Bradbury@center.

Forrest/ trees.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young
Jandro with a poop cannon at the internet wall..
Bradbury is not our biggest problem,
offense is not our biggest problem
Finding a defensive co-ordination and implementing a scheme that puts us in the position to win games even if the offense struggles against a good defense is far and away more important and a key to franchise success than Bradbury@center.
Forrest/ trees.

Goes w/o saying the defense is a much bigger concern.
But your overlooking that we do not have a C on the roster other than some PS guy named Josh Sokol. So a move needs to be made for a starting C.
So yes it is a valid concern.

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

If you can acquire Lance for some late draft picks it seems like a low risk high reward type move.

Only issue I see is his rookie deal has already been going for two years.

Damn shame there still isn't NFL Europe, draft QBs and ship them off to see if there is anything there.

Kurt Warner wasn't Kurt Warner until he seasoned himself in Arena League and NFL Europe.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

What we'll never know, how many players would of been great if they only had a real chance, instead of relying on "the experts"

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I don't think this is the way:
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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

If you can acquire Lance for some late draft picks it seems like a low risk high reward type move.

Only issue I see is his rookie deal has already been going for two years.

Damn shame there still isn't NFL Europe, draft QBs and ship them off to see if there is anything there.

Kurt Warner wasn't Kurt Warner until he seasoned himself in Arena League and NFL Europe.

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

If you can acquire Lance for some late draft picks it seems like a low risk high reward type move.

Only issue I see is his rookie deal has already been going for two years.

Damn shame there still isn't NFL Europe, draft QBs and ship them off to see if there is anything there.

Kurt Warner wasn't Kurt Warner until he seasoned himself in Arena League and NFL Europe.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

What we'll never know, how many players would of been great if they only had a real chance, instead of relying on "the experts"

I'd love to see some type of scientific study on this (if it's even possible). So many mediocre players get 100 chances (Ponder for example - and 1000s like him - not just QBs) and so many get no chance in a real game. Seriously - do we ever get to see Tom Brady if Bledsoe doesn't get hurt? It's scary to me how many superstars never get a shot there might be.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

What we'll never know, how many players would of been great if they only had a real chance, instead of relying on "the experts"

I'd love to see some type of scientific study on this (if it's even possible). So many mediocre players get 100 chances (Ponder for example - and 1000s like him - not just QBs) and so many get no chance in a real game. Seriously - do we ever get to see Tom Brady if Bledsoe doesn't get hurt? It's scary to me how many superstars never get a shot there might be.

Right. I was thinking of that example for sure and how about Purdy? He's going to have a lot more opportunities going forward than he would not have if two people don't go down in front of him (and maybe when they did).

Not sure the a scientific study will do it. Maybe the universe will help us out that one one day - who knows

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

If you can acquire Lance for some late draft picks it seems like a low risk high reward type move.

Only issue I see is his rookie deal has already been going for two years.

Damn shame there still isn't NFL Europe, draft QBs and ship them off to see if there is anything there.

Kurt Warner wasn't Kurt Warner until he seasoned himself in Arena League and NFL Europe.

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