Tom Sykes
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If Rodgers is traded away the NFC North has the most underwhelming collection of QB's outside the NFC South.
I think the division is wide open if Rodgers leaves. I seriously doubt that equals "playoff run" by any of the teams but 9 wins will keep you in the mix all year.
Are you content with winning a week division? I'm not.
No, but it is what it is.
If you think the Vikings are going to release/trade everybody on the roster and shoot for 0-17 to get Caleb Williams be prepared to be disappointed.
After this season if they think Caleb Williams is the next Mahomes, I would have no issue trading away Jefferson and 3 or 4 future first round picks. I say this because I would trade 8-10 future first round picks for Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes has done fine without Hill.
Kwesi will be judged by his next QB and if he doesn’t get aggressive and/or hit a home run I will be disappointed. Drafting whoever is available and living with it for 3 years would be “very Speilman”.
The true elite QBs don’t need HOF WR. Manning Brady Mahomes seem to have done fine with WR that were barely average.
They didn't have an elite TE or weapons either? Manning (Clark, Harrison), Brady (Gronk, Edelman), Mahomes (Kelce).
You can trade away Jefferson who is 23 and ascending? You want to trade him on the other end of the curve like the Pack did as Devate is 30.
Apples and oranges. The Packers weren't trying to trade way up for a QB.
I don't see Caleb as the next Mahomes. I would rather draft McKee or Bill's guy in the middle rounds.
The point was clearly stated that if the regime thinks Caleb is the next Mahomes then he wouldn't have a problem trading JJ and more to move up in the draft.
Then another point was made that the packers example you made is immaterial as the two trades would end up being for entirely different purposes.
The above valid statements have nothing to do with you thinking Caleb is not the next Mahomes, so why even say that?
yes, that was my point. IF Kwesi thinks the next Mahomes is in the upcoming draft or 2024 draft he should get him, no matter what the cost is.
IMO it's impossible to say "That's too much to give up for Mahomes".
In 2017, the Chiefs gave up their First rd pick (#27 overall), their Third rd pick, as well as their 2018 First rd pick for Buffalo's first rd #10 pick. And drafted Mahomes. (Sound of cash register cha-chinging)
That year, Chicago gave up their First rd (#3 overall), Third rd and 4th rd selections as well as a Third rd pick in 2018 to move up one spot and draft Trubisky at #2. [sound of Chinese balloon deflating]
Both franchises knew without a doubt who they wanted, committed to it 'no matter what the cost,' and went for it. Although even after going all in, the Chiefs still had a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th rd pick that year. (The Bears still had a 2nd, two 4ths and a 5th)
IMO given Kwesi's previous draft, the state of the team and its resources ... not sure I want us maneuvering around for a QB this year. As critical as I think it is to improve the position. [not taking a QB with our first or second [that we don't have] ... IMO ensures Cousins through a drafted QB incubationary period in 2024 ... which would be hard for me to stomach]
If the regime likes a QB in the 15-25 range of the draft and he's still there at #23, please go for it. But trade up and augment our roster with a QB at #16 and a LB with the remaining pick in the 5th rd ... I don't think so.
Depressing.
< Message edited by Tom Sykes -- 2/6/2023 3:40:00 PM >
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