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ORIGINAL: stfrank

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Full details on the #Vikings’ Harrison Smith deal:
— 4 years, $64M extension.
— Overall, 5 years, $74.83M
— Smith gets $22.5M in the next 8 month, highest in NFL history for a safety
— For 2022 to 2024, the new money average is $15.3M.
— The extension includes $26.38M guaranteed.
1:31 PM · Aug 29, 2021

Spielman doled this contract to a 32 year old

Can we call Spielman and fire him again

Edit: Kwesi turned 6ml into a signing bonus last season so whatever his dead cap hit was add 6ml to.

Note to the Wilfs. Short-termism is an obvious downside to a GM on tenuous footing. They try to maximize their own future prospects at the expense of the team's long-term success.

It's past time to bottom out, clean up the cap and start a rebuild. But, I fear instead they will re-up Cousins and push the cap problem out farther and up higher.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

So, would a person now, before just about any off-season moves have been made, bet the Vikings will or will not, win more than 8 games?

Hm: SF, TB, NO, SD, KC, gb, chi, det
Aw: Cinn, Phil, Car, Atl, Oak, Den, gb, chi, det

Itll be interesting to see the over/under number.

What would a person so sure of next year's results be willing to bet?

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

So, would a person now, before just about any off-season moves have been made, bet the Vikings will or will not, win more than 8 games?

Hm: SF, TB, NO, SD, KC, gb, chi, det
Aw: Cinn, Phil, Car, Atl, Oak, Den, gb, chi, det

Itll be interesting to see the over/under number.

What would a person so sure of next year's results be willing to bet?

Vegas is very good at that. My guess is the Vikings will be set at 8.5 wins.

The two apps I use to bet on don't have season Over Unders out yet. I am sure some places have them available.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

So, would a person now, before just about any off-season moves have been made, bet the Vikings will or will not, win more than 8 games?

Hm: SF, TB, NO, SD, KC, gb, chi, det
Aw: Cinn, Phil, Car, Atl, Oak, Den, gb, chi, det

Itll be interesting to see the over/under number.

What would a person so sure of next year's results be willing to bet?

Vegas is very good at that. My guess is the Vikings will be set at 8.5 wins.

The two apps I use to bet on don't have season Over Unders out yet. I am sure some places have them available.

Right, I checked FanDual and there was nothing. I bet a dollar on 10 teams last year and won 6. I wouldn't be surprised to see your 8.5 be the number

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

So, would a person now, before just about any off-season moves have been made, bet the Vikings will or will not, win more than 8 games?

Hm: SF, TB, NO, SD, KC, gb, chi, det
Aw: Cinn, Phil, Car, Atl, Oak, Den, gb, chi, det

Itll be interesting to see the over/under number.

What would a person so sure of next year's results be willing to bet?

Vegas is very good at that. My guess is the Vikings will be set at 8.5 wins.

The two apps I use to bet on don't have season Over Unders out yet. I am sure some places have them available.

Right, I checked FanDual and there was nothing. I bet a dollar on 10 teams last year and won 6. I wouldn't be surprised to see your 8.5 be the number

I like to bet a few dollars on the teams to win super bowl. I go only as deep as I can and still win money if any of them actually win it. Crazy KC was 10-1 to win super bowl last year.

Guessing Season Over / Unders will not come out to the big casinos until the QB shuffle is settled. KC will no doubt be overwhelming favorites. They lose nobody and Mahomes is the best QB in the leauge and frankly the second best QB is so far back it's an insult to Mahomes to call whoever it is the 2nd best.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Full details on the #Vikings’ Harrison Smith deal:
— 4 years, $64M extension.
— Overall, 5 years, $74.83M
— Smith gets $22.5M in the next 8 month, highest in NFL history for a safety
— For 2022 to 2024, the new money average is $15.3M.
— The extension includes $26.38M guaranteed.
1:31 PM · Aug 29, 2021

Spielman doled this contract to a 32 year old

Can we call Spielman and fire him again

Edit: Kwesi turned 6ml into a signing bonus last season so whatever his dead cap hit was add 6ml to.

Note to the Wilfs. Short-termism is an obvious downside to a GM on tenuous footing. They try to maximize their own future prospects at the expense of the team's long-term success.

It's past time to bottom out, clean up the cap and start a rebuild. But, I fear instead they will re-up Cousins and push the cap problem out farther and up higher.

Having just made the playoffs, the organization has the fans exactly where they want them. A move or two and, with seven months between games, most of the fans will think this is the year. People suffer from amnesia from January to August. Vikings' fans desperately want to believe this is the year.

Watch this site for a prime example. After the loss to the Giants, people were destroyed and understood there was no chance of this team ever winning unless they improved the defense. Reality set in. On a scale of 1-to-10, pessimism was at a 9.5. After draft day it will be at 5.5. When the season starts it will be at 3. It only takes Viking fans about seven months for most to completely forget how bad the season ended. I've been watching it in here for two decades now. Right around August 1 some well-wisher will be in here posting the schedule and giving the Vikings 15 wins. They will completely forget that the Vikings were 11-0 in one score games heading into the playoffs, with almost no chance of repeating that feat in 2023.

With no real hope of major changes due to the Cousins situation, this team will not reach .500 next season. You heard it here first. I like Brian Flores, but he has no chance with this collection of talentless hacks.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Full details on the #Vikings’ Harrison Smith deal:
— 4 years, $64M extension.
— Overall, 5 years, $74.83M
— Smith gets $22.5M in the next 8 month, highest in NFL history for a safety
— For 2022 to 2024, the new money average is $15.3M.
— The extension includes $26.38M guaranteed.
1:31 PM · Aug 29, 2021

Spielman doled this contract to a 32 year old

Can we call Spielman and fire him again

Edit: Kwesi turned 6ml into a signing bonus last season so whatever his dead cap hit was add 6ml to.

Note to the Wilfs. Short-termism is an obvious downside to a GM on tenuous footing. They try to maximize their own future prospects at the expense of the team's long-term success.

It's past time to bottom out, clean up the cap and start a rebuild. But, I fear instead they will re-up Cousins and push the cap problem out farther and up higher.

Having just made the playoffs, the organization has the fans exactly where they want them. A move or two and, with seven months between games, most of the fans will think this is the year. People suffer from amnesia from January to August. Vikings' fans desperately want to believe this is the year.

Watch this site for a prime example. After the loss to the Giants, people were destroyed and understood there was no chance of this team ever winning unless they improved the defense. Reality set in. On a scale of 1-to-10, pessimism was at a 9.5. After draft day it will be at 5.5. When the season starts it will be at 3. It only takes Viking fans about seven months for most to completely forget how bad the season ended. I've been watching it in here for two decades now. Right around August 1 some well-wisher will be in here posting the schedule and giving the Vikings 15 wins. They will completely forget that the Vikings were 11-0 in one score games heading into the playoffs, with almost no chance of repeating that feat in 2023.

With no real hope of major changes due to the Cousins situation, this team will not reach .500 next season. You heard it here first. I like Brian Flores, but he has no chance with this collection of talentless hacks.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Food for thought

If Erin retires Cousins will be the oldest starting qb in the league.

But let's ext him and reassemble the geriatric band and run it back one more time.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Full details on the #Vikings’ Harrison Smith deal:
— 4 years, $64M extension.
— Overall, 5 years, $74.83M
— Smith gets $22.5M in the next 8 month, highest in NFL history for a safety
— For 2022 to 2024, the new money average is $15.3M.
— The extension includes $26.38M guaranteed.
1:31 PM · Aug 29, 2021

Spielman doled this contract to a 32 year old

Can we call Spielman and fire him again

Edit: Kwesi turned 6ml into a signing bonus last season so whatever his dead cap hit was add 6ml to.

Note to the Wilfs. Short-termism is an obvious downside to a GM on tenuous footing. They try to maximize their own future prospects at the expense of the team's long-term success.

It's past time to bottom out, clean up the cap and start a rebuild. But, I fear instead they will re-up Cousins and push the cap problem out farther and up higher.

Having just made the playoffs, the organization has the fans exactly where they want them. A move or two and, with seven months between games, most of the fans will think this is the year. People suffer from amnesia from January to August. Vikings' fans desperately want to believe this is the year.

Watch this site for a prime example. After the loss to the Giants, people were destroyed and understood there was no chance of this team ever winning unless they improved the defense. Reality set in. On a scale of 1-to-10, pessimism was at a 9.5. After draft day it will be at 5.5. When the season starts it will be at 3. It only takes Viking fans about seven months for most to completely forget how bad the season ended. I've been watching it in here for two decades now. Right around August 1 some well-wisher will be in here posting the schedule and giving the Vikings 15 wins. They will completely forget that the Vikings were 11-0 in one score games heading into the playoffs, with almost no chance of repeating that feat in 2023.

With no real hope of major changes due to the Cousins situation, this team will not reach .500 next season. You heard it here first. I like Brian Flores, but he has no chance with this collection of talentless hacks.

Exhibit A for ‘Site Sociopath’.

Any sports fan with a genuine emotional investment in any sports team is going to cycle through expectations …

But you’d have to be genuinely invested to grasp that. For you, this is just an intellectual exercise. Without the intellect.

Condescending tool.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Won't be me next season.
I'm retired from being a sucker.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Full details on the #Vikings’ Harrison Smith deal:
— 4 years, $64M extension.
— Overall, 5 years, $74.83M
— Smith gets $22.5M in the next 8 month, highest in NFL history for a safety
— For 2022 to 2024, the new money average is $15.3M.
— The extension includes $26.38M guaranteed.
1:31 PM · Aug 29, 2021

Spielman doled this contract to a 32 year old

Can we call Spielman and fire him again

Edit: Kwesi turned 6ml into a signing bonus last season so whatever his dead cap hit was add 6ml to.

Note to the Wilfs. Short-termism is an obvious downside to a GM on tenuous footing. They try to maximize their own future prospects at the expense of the team's long-term success.

It's past time to bottom out, clean up the cap and start a rebuild. But, I fear instead they will re-up Cousins and push the cap problem out farther and up higher.

Having just made the playoffs, the organization has the fans exactly where they want them. A move or two and, with seven months between games, most of the fans will think this is the year. People suffer from amnesia from January to August. Vikings' fans desperately want to believe this is the year.

Watch this site for a prime example. After the loss to the Giants, people were destroyed and understood there was no chance of this team ever winning unless they improved the defense. Reality set in. On a scale of 1-to-10, pessimism was at a 9.5. After draft day it will be at 5.5. When the season starts it will be at 3. It only takes Viking fans about seven months for most to completely forget how bad the season ended. I've been watching it in here for two decades now. Right around August 1 some well-wisher will be in here posting the schedule and giving the Vikings 15 wins. They will completely forget that the Vikings were 11-0 in one score games heading into the playoffs, with almost no chance of repeating that feat in 2023.

With no real hope of major changes due to the Cousins situation, this team will not reach .500 next season. You heard it here first. I like Brian Flores, but he has no chance with this collection of talentless hacks.

Exhibit A for ‘Site Sociopath’.

Any sports fan with a genuine emotional investment in any sports team is going to cycle through expectations …

But you’d have to be genuinely invested to grasp that. For you, this is just an intellectual exercise. Without the intellect.

Condescending tool.

Most posters are pretty realistic and yes in general sort of bump up expectations a bit by Sept. Now, for a few (not most) every damn free agent and draftee is projected to be this and that, and boy with a fast start HFA is going to be a real option on yet another "deep SB run".

As an adult being a fan includes looking at the team subjectively, the good and bad. Kids can wear the purple shades 24/7/365. If adult posters choose to, only to be 'deflated' for the millionth time or conjure up their yearly dumb-ass excuses, they are pretty foolish in my book.

That said, I have just some hope that Flores can turn a sow's ear into a silk purse. I have zero hope Cousins will suddenly play like the team leader when he needs to. I'm neutral on Kwesi, but returns from last offseason are crap.

But yeah, for him to blast most of the board as if he has some dynamic news shows he's got his.... well, whatever. Condescending, good word choice there.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Full details on the #Vikings’ Harrison Smith deal:
— 4 years, $64M extension.
— Overall, 5 years, $74.83M
— Smith gets $22.5M in the next 8 month, highest in NFL history for a safety
— For 2022 to 2024, the new money average is $15.3M.
— The extension includes $26.38M guaranteed.
1:31 PM · Aug 29, 2021

Spielman doled this contract to a 32 year old

Can we call Spielman and fire him again

Edit: Kwesi turned 6ml into a signing bonus last season so whatever his dead cap hit was add 6ml to.

Note to the Wilfs. Short-termism is an obvious downside to a GM on tenuous footing. They try to maximize their own future prospects at the expense of the team's long-term success.

It's past time to bottom out, clean up the cap and start a rebuild. But, I fear instead they will re-up Cousins and push the cap problem out farther and up higher.

Having just made the playoffs, the organization has the fans exactly where they want them. A move or two and, with seven months between games, most of the fans will think this is the year. People suffer from amnesia from January to August. Vikings' fans desperately want to believe this is the year.

Watch this site for a prime example. After the loss to the Giants, people were destroyed and understood there was no chance of this team ever winning unless they improved the defense. Reality set in. On a scale of 1-to-10, pessimism was at a 9.5. After draft day it will be at 5.5. When the season starts it will be at 3. It only takes Viking fans about seven months for most to completely forget how bad the season ended. I've been watching it in here for two decades now. Right around August 1 some well-wisher will be in here posting the schedule and giving the Vikings 15 wins. They will completely forget that the Vikings were 11-0 in one score games heading into the playoffs, with almost no chance of repeating that feat in 2023.

With no real hope of major changes due to the Cousins situation, this team will not reach .500 next season. You heard it here first. I like Brian Flores, but he has no chance with this collection of talentless hacks.

Exhibit A for ‘Site Sociopath’.

Any sports fan with a genuine emotional investment in any sports team is going to cycle through expectations …

But you’d have to be genuinely invested to grasp that. For you, this is just an intellectual exercise. Without the intellect.

Condescending tool.

Most posters are pretty realistic and yes in general sort of bump up expectations a bit by Sept. Now, for a few (not most) every damn free agent and draftee is projected to be this and that, and boy with a fast start HFA is going to be a real option on yet another "deep SB run".

As an adult being a fan includes looking at the team subjectively, the good and bad. Kids can wear the purple shades 24/7/365. If adult posters choose to, only to be 'deflated' for the millionth time or conjure up their yearly dumb-ass excuses, they are pretty foolish in my book.

That said, I have just some hope that Flores can turn a sow's ear into a silk purse. I have zero hope Cousins will suddenly play like the team leader when he needs to. I'm neutral on Kwesi, but returns from last offseason are crap.

But yeah, for him to blast most of the board as if he has some dynamic news shows he's got his.... well, whatever. Condescending, good word choice there.

Oh boy, here we go. At the first sight of rational discourse, some already feel the need to throw around personal attacks.

It must be the off-season.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Full details on the #Vikings’ Harrison Smith deal:
— 4 years, $64M extension.
— Overall, 5 years, $74.83M
— Smith gets $22.5M in the next 8 month, highest in NFL history for a safety
— For 2022 to 2024, the new money average is $15.3M.
— The extension includes $26.38M guaranteed.
1:31 PM · Aug 29, 2021

Spielman doled this contract to a 32 year old

Can we call Spielman and fire him again

Edit: Kwesi turned 6ml into a signing bonus last season so whatever his dead cap hit was add 6ml to.

Note to the Wilfs. Short-termism is an obvious downside to a GM on tenuous footing. They try to maximize their own future prospects at the expense of the team's long-term success.

It's past time to bottom out, clean up the cap and start a rebuild. But, I fear instead they will re-up Cousins and push the cap problem out farther and up higher.

Having just made the playoffs, the organization has the fans exactly where they want them. A move or two and, with seven months between games, most of the fans will think this is the year. People suffer from amnesia from January to August. Vikings' fans desperately want to believe this is the year.

Watch this site for a prime example. After the loss to the Giants, people were destroyed and understood there was no chance of this team ever winning unless they improved the defense. Reality set in. On a scale of 1-to-10, pessimism was at a 9.5. After draft day it will be at 5.5. When the season starts it will be at 3. It only takes Viking fans about seven months for most to completely forget how bad the season ended. I've been watching it in here for two decades now. Right around August 1 some well-wisher will be in here posting the schedule and giving the Vikings 15 wins. They will completely forget that the Vikings were 11-0 in one score games heading into the playoffs, with almost no chance of repeating that feat in 2023.

With no real hope of major changes due to the Cousins situation, this team will not reach .500 next season. You heard it here first. I like Brian Flores, but he has no chance with this collection of talentless hacks.

Exhibit A for ‘Site Sociopath’.

Any sports fan with a genuine emotional investment in any sports team is going to cycle through expectations …

But you’d have to be genuinely invested to grasp that. For you, this is just an intellectual exercise. Without the intellect.

Condescending tool.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

He definitely has the "word salad" part of the job down.

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

He definitely has the "word salad" part of the job down.

It works well for Falvey.