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ORIGINAL: David Levine

He definitely has the "word salad" part of the job down.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Kwesi gave a clinic today at the combine on "Dancing, worming, shilly-shallying, pussyfooting 101"
https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-kwesi-adofo-mensah-justin-jefferson-brian-flores-more-nfl-combine

On Cousins:

"Let’s go all the way numbers, let’s go full numbers," Adofo-Mensah said. "So, we talk about necessary and sufficient conditions, right, in math. And so a necessary condition is having a starter-level quarterback, a quarterback of above a certain threshold. Now that doesn’t mean for sure you’re going to win, that’s not the only thing you need, but that is one of the things you need, right? So having a good-level quarterback is a necessary condition. Kirk meets that threshold, so we know that. OK, well now how do you build the rest of the team around him to make sure that you can win in that way? Different quarterbacks require different things around them, but we know that for sure, he meets that threshold.

How long does he meet that threshold? Those are things we’ve got to answer. Is there a chance to add somebody maybe with different skill sets? Those are all questions we’ve got to answer, so there’s not one right way, but I do know one thing, I know he is good enough, he meets that first threshold, and that’s a question that a lot of people can’t answer with a yes, so we’ve got to make sure we treat that in the proper importance that it is."

Online KAM-speak translator:

sufficient / starter-level quarterback / above a certain threshold / good level quarterback = Cousins = one year placeholder.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Kirk meets that threshold, so we know that. OK, well now how do you build the rest of the team around him

How about fielding an IOL that can actually pass block.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Kwesi gave a clinic today at the combine on "Dancing, worming, shilly-shallying, pussyfooting 101"
https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-kwesi-adofo-mensah-justin-jefferson-brian-flores-more-nfl-combine

On Cousins:

"Let’s go all the way numbers, let’s go full numbers," Adofo-Mensah said. "So, we talk about necessary and sufficient conditions, right, in math. And so a necessary condition is having a starter-level quarterback, a quarterback of above a certain threshold. Now that doesn’t mean for sure you’re going to win, that’s not the only thing you need, but that is one of the things you need, right? So having a good-level quarterback is a necessary condition. Kirk meets that threshold, so we know that. OK, well now how do you build the rest of the team around him to make sure that you can win in that way? Different quarterbacks require different things around them, but we know that for sure, he meets that threshold.

How long does he meet that threshold? Those are things we’ve got to answer. Is there a chance to add somebody maybe with different skill sets? Those are all questions we’ve got to answer, so there’s not one right way, but I do know one thing, I know he is good enough, he meets that first threshold, and that’s a question that a lot of people can’t answer with a yes, so we’ve got to make sure we treat that in the proper importance that it is."

Online KAM-speak translator:

sufficient / starter-level quarterback / above a certain threshold / good level quarterback = Cousins = one year placeholder.

He sounds like a schmoe off the street who googled "QB" for the first time and tap danced some psychobabble to hide his lack of football acumen.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Kwesi gave a clinic today at the combine on "Dancing, worming, shilly-shallying, pussyfooting 101"
https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-kwesi-adofo-mensah-justin-jefferson-brian-flores-more-nfl-combine

On Cousins:

"Let’s go all the way numbers, let’s go full numbers," Adofo-Mensah said. "So, we talk about necessary and sufficient conditions, right, in math. And so a necessary condition is having a starter-level quarterback, a quarterback of above a certain threshold. Now that doesn’t mean for sure you’re going to win, that’s not the only thing you need, but that is one of the things you need, right? So having a good-level quarterback is a necessary condition. Kirk meets that threshold, so we know that. OK, well now how do you build the rest of the team around him to make sure that you can win in that way? Different quarterbacks require different things around them, but we know that for sure, he meets that threshold.

How long does he meet that threshold? Those are things we’ve got to answer. Is there a chance to add somebody maybe with different skill sets? Those are all questions we’ve got to answer, so there’s not one right way, but I do know one thing, I know he is good enough, he meets that first threshold, and that’s a question that a lot of people can’t answer with a yes, so we’ve got to make sure we treat that in the proper importance that it is."

Online KAM-speak translator:

sufficient / starter-level quarterback / above a certain threshold / good level quarterback = Cousins = one year placeholder.

He sounds like a schmoe off the street who googled "QB" for the first time and tap danced some psychobabble to hide his lack of football acumen.

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

extending a QB that is getting very old and never won at a high level would be a huge mistake. Might as well kept Speilman if that is the plan.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

extending a QB that is getting very old and never won at a high level would be a huge mistake. Might as well kept Speilman if that is the plan.

I wonder if he would have won at a high level last year if the defense was even close to the middle of the road. Just a sniff of the middle of the pack.

Worst defenses in Viking history, where does this one rank? I really don't know but I do know what side of the Bell Curve it is on

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

extending a QB that is getting very old and never won at a high level would be a huge mistake. Might as well kept Speilman if that is the plan.

I wonder if he would have won at a high level last year if the defense was even close to the middle of the road. Just a sniff of the middle of the pack.

Worst defenses in Viking history, where does this one rank? I really don't know but I do know what side of the Bell Curve it is on

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Kwesi gave a clinic today at the combine on "Dancing, worming, shilly-shallying, pussyfooting 101"
https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-kwesi-adofo-mensah-justin-jefferson-brian-flores-more-nfl-combine

On Cousins:

"Let’s go all the way numbers, let’s go full numbers," Adofo-Mensah said. "So, we talk about necessary and sufficient conditions, right, in math. And so a necessary condition is having a starter-level quarterback, a quarterback of above a certain threshold. Now that doesn’t mean for sure you’re going to win, that’s not the only thing you need, but that is one of the things you need, right? So having a good-level quarterback is a necessary condition. Kirk meets that threshold, so we know that. OK, well now how do you build the rest of the team around him to make sure that you can win in that way? Different quarterbacks require different things around them, but we know that for sure, he meets that threshold.

How long does he meet that threshold? Those are things we’ve got to answer. Is there a chance to add somebody maybe with different skill sets? Those are all questions we’ve got to answer, so there’s not one right way, but I do know one thing, I know he is good enough, he meets that first threshold, and that’s a question that a lot of people can’t answer with a yes, so we’ve got to make sure we treat that in the proper importance that it is."

Online KAM-speak translator:

sufficient / starter-level quarterback / above a certain threshold / good level quarterback = Cousins = one year placeholder.

He sounds like a schmoe off the street who googled "QB" for the first time and tap danced some psychobabble to hide his lack of football acumen.

It was weird. I’m biased but even so, hard not to read into.

He sounded like a GM talking about Jefferson … (when a GM has his balls in a vise.)

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

extending a QB that is getting very old and never won at a high level would be a huge mistake. Might as well kept Speilman if that is the plan.

I wonder if he would have won at a high level last year if the defense was even close to the middle of the road. Just a sniff of the middle of the pack.

Worst defenses in Viking history, where does this one rank? I really don't know but I do know what side of the Bell Curve it is on

After you brought that up about a month ago, someone pointed out we had top 10 (?) defenses in two of his years here.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Nope, changed it once. Glad to know you are tracking my edits, and since I edit a LOT you should redouble your efforts to get a more accurate take. Sometimes I edit just for a misplaced comma (obviously, grammar is not a big deal for you)!

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

extending a QB that is getting very old and never won at a high level would be a huge mistake. Might as well kept Speilman if that is the plan.

I wonder if he would have won at a high level last year if the defense was even close to the middle of the road. Just a sniff of the middle of the pack.

Worst defenses in Viking history, where does this one rank? I really don't know but I do know what side of the Bell Curve it is on

After you brought that up about a month ago, someone pointed out we had top 10 (?) defenses in two of his years here.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

extending a QB that is getting very old and never won at a high level would be a huge mistake. Might as well kept Speilman if that is the plan.

I wonder if he would have won at a high level last year if the defense was even close to the middle of the road. Just a sniff of the middle of the pack.

Worst defenses in Viking history, where does this one rank? I really don't know but I do know what side of the Bell Curve it is on

After you brought that up about a month ago, someone pointed out we had top 10 (?) defenses in two of his years here.

2018: 9th in Points, 4th in Yards. Missed the Playoffs.
2019: 5th in Points, 14th in Yards. Won WC, Lost Divisional

Its amazing how fast the defense fell off under Zim.

2013: Frazier's final year: 32nd in Points, 31st in Yards.
2014: Zim's first year: 11th in Points, 14th in Yards.
2015: 5th in Points, 13th in Yards.
2016: 6th in Points, 3rd in Yards.
2017: 1st in Points, 1st in Yards.
2018: 9th in Points, 4th in Yards.
2019: 5th in Points, 14th in Yards.
2020: 29th in Points, 27 in Yards.
2021: 24th in Points, 30th in Yards.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Kwesi gave a clinic today at the combine on "Dancing, worming, shilly-shallying, pussyfooting 101"
https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-kwesi-adofo-mensah-justin-jefferson-brian-flores-more-nfl-combine

On Cousins:

"Let’s go all the way numbers, let’s go full numbers," Adofo-Mensah said. "So, we talk about necessary and sufficient conditions, right, in math. And so a necessary condition is having a starter-level quarterback, a quarterback of above a certain threshold. Now that doesn’t mean for sure you’re going to win, that’s not the only thing you need, but that is one of the things you need, right? So having a good-level quarterback is a necessary condition. Kirk meets that threshold, so we know that. OK, well now how do you build the rest of the team around him to make sure that you can win in that way? Different quarterbacks require different things around them, but we know that for sure, he meets that threshold.

How long does he meet that threshold? Those are things we’ve got to answer. Is there a chance to add somebody maybe with different skill sets? Those are all questions we’ve got to answer, so there’s not one right way, but I do know one thing, I know he is good enough, he meets that first threshold, and that’s a question that a lot of people can’t answer with a yes, so we’ve got to make sure we treat that in the proper importance that it is."

Online KAM-speak translator:

sufficient / starter-level quarterback / above a certain threshold / good level quarterback = Cousins = one year placeholder.

He sounds like a schmoe off the street who googled "QB" for the first time and tap danced some psychobabble to hide his lack of football acumen.

It was weird. I’m biased but even so, hard not to read into.

He sounded like a GM talking about Jefferson … (when a GM has his balls in a vise.)

Collaborative lingo at its finest! Everyone walks away thinking, whew, I'm saved from the ax. But when the question is asked about what he really meant, everyone just shakes their head.

Conversely, usually when someone keeps blabbing like that you get the sense that person is hiding their real intentions behind word vomit. But in Kwesi's case, you have to adjust the length of the answer to accommodate for 'KwesiSpeak'.

We'll see if it translates into double-reverse smoke screens. As of now, it would appear other GMs have no clue about anything he will do because he's a weirdo in the GM world.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Nope, changed it once. Glad to know you are tracking my edits, and since I edit a LOT you should redouble your efforts to get a more accurate take. Sometimes I edit just for a misplaced comma (obviously, grammar is not a big deal for you)!

Nope, first time you changed it was before the little "message edit by Bill" popped up" - beat the window of time - making the second edit sound better than the first ripping you started with

re: Glad to know you are tracking my edits ... I'm not, just happened to be there, that and no one jumps all over people about edits like you do - hense, my not being about to resist. Funny thing is, I probably deserve it and if someone has called me on it almost as much as you through out history it'd be Todd. ;/

But, I should have let that go. No doubt.

- do you enjoy pointing our all the negative things that pop up into your Id as you read (almost) everyone's posts?

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Kwesi gave a clinic today at the combine on "Dancing, worming, shilly-shallying, pussyfooting 101"
https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-kwesi-adofo-mensah-justin-jefferson-brian-flores-more-nfl-combine

On Cousins:

"Let’s go all the way numbers, let’s go full numbers," Adofo-Mensah said. "So, we talk about necessary and sufficient conditions, right, in math. And so a necessary condition is having a starter-level quarterback, a quarterback of above a certain threshold. Now that doesn’t mean for sure you’re going to win, that’s not the only thing you need, but that is one of the things you need, right? So having a good-level quarterback is a necessary condition. Kirk meets that threshold, so we know that. OK, well now how do you build the rest of the team around him to make sure that you can win in that way? Different quarterbacks require different things around them, but we know that for sure, he meets that threshold.

How long does he meet that threshold? Those are things we’ve got to answer. Is there a chance to add somebody maybe with different skill sets? Those are all questions we’ve got to answer, so there’s not one right way, but I do know one thing, I know he is good enough, he meets that first threshold, and that’s a question that a lot of people can’t answer with a yes, so we’ve got to make sure we treat that in the proper importance that it is."

Online KAM-speak translator:

sufficient / starter-level quarterback / above a certain threshold / good level quarterback = Cousins = one year placeholder.

He sounds like a schmoe off the street who googled "QB" for the first time and tap danced some psychobabble to hide his lack of football acumen.

It was weird. I’m biased but even so, hard not to read into.

He sounded like a GM talking about Jefferson … (when a GM has his balls in a vise.)

Collaborative lingo at its finest! Everyone walks away thinking, whew, I'm saved from the ax. But when the question is asked about what he really meant, everyone just shakes their head.

Conversely, usually when someone keeps blabbing like that you get the sense that person is hiding their real intentions behind word vomit. But in Kwesi's case, you have to adjust the length of the answer to accommodate for 'KwesiSpeak'.

We'll see if it translates into double-reverse smoke screens. As of now, it would appear other GMs have no clue about anything he will do because he's a weirdo in the GM world.

Yes hard to read so far. Not necessarily a bad thing of course, it just didn't come across as tactical or competitive advantage crap. For a young, sleek, fashion-plated 'smart-guy' ... his necessary and sufficient numbers fell well short of analysis. More chatty than anything.

I was hoping for a cold analytical intelligence, you know like the spindly-legged 'Alien' creature ... no emotions just cold pure analytical hostility, running around bleeding acid on the other franchises. Yesterday was more of a spindly-legged bon vivant trying to bob and weave his way out of a media question. The lack of hostility vexes me. Collaborative being the opposite of hostile.

Just airing my fears. Year two is about to begin in earnest ... the next two-three weeks should really clarify things on all levels.

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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this is taken from an article about problems people are developing by overleveraging their auto loans - 'negative equity'...i reminded me of extending cousins one more time - and dead cap....


“I don’t want to be paying interest on cars that I don’t even have anymore,” said Martin, a 36-year-old data engineer.

The build-up in negative equity — or the amount that debt exceeds a vehicle’s value — is rattling consumers and raising alarms within the industry. Though it’s not unusual for drivers to carry negative equity, some dealers say more people are arriving at their lots up to $10,000 underwater, or “upside down,” on their trade-ins. They’re buying at still-sky-high prices and rolling debt from one car to another and even onto a third. Loans are commonly stretching to seven years.

“As trade-in values begin to cool, each month more and more consumers will find themselves falling from positive to negative equity,” said Ivan Drury, director of insights at auto-market researcher Edmunds. “Unless American car shoppers break their habit of buying again too soon, we’ll see the negative equity tide continue to rise.”

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Nope, changed it once. Glad to know you are tracking my edits, and since I edit a LOT you should redouble your efforts to get a more accurate take. Sometimes I edit just for a misplaced comma (obviously, grammar is not a big deal for you)!

Nope, first time you changed it was before the little "message edit by Bill" popped up" - beat the window of time - making the second edit sound better than the first ripping you started with

re: Glad to know you are tracking my edits ... I'm not, just happened to be there, that and no one jumps all over people about edits like you do - hense, my not being about to resist. Funny thing is, I probably deserve it and if someone has called me on it almost as much as you through out history it'd be Todd. ;/

But, I should have let that go. No doubt.

- do you enjoy pointing our all the negative things that pop up into your Id as you read (almost) everyone's posts?

Bottomline, I am flattered you track my edits

Did you catch this edit? Or edits?

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

I gave Kwesi a pass last year being new to the job and getting settled in. But he was deathly slow at getting things done before the new calendar year and he appears to be well behind this year as well.

Most teams have cut players and have reneg others to get in cap compliance. Meanwhile what has Kwesi done? He had a deadline with Tomlison and had to post date that. Why? You knew about this deadline for a year.

Couple this with reading his blather while rubbing shoulders with other GM's at the combine has me wondering about this guy.

Sorry, just thinking out loud.