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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/13/2023 3:47:32 PM   
Phil Riewer


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Source: The #Steelers are signing Pro Bowl CB Patrick Peterson. A surprise! A perennial star headed to a historic franchise to beef up their back end.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/13/2023 3:50:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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Source: The #Steelers are signing Pro Bowl CB Patrick Peterson. A surprise! A perennial star headed to a historic franchise to beef up their back end.

Let's hope it is for big $$$.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/13/2023 3:53:13 PM   
Bill Johanesen


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Status: offline 		2022 was such a huge outlier season for Peterson. Not worth the risk of reverting back, unless they play the Donnashell defense.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PetePa00.htm
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/13/2023 4:01:19 PM   
Phil Riewer


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The #Commanders claimed CB Cameron Dantzler off waivers from the #Vikings.


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Washington Commanders claim CB Cameron Dantzler off waivers after he was let go last Friday by #Vikings.
So they pick up the nonguaranteed $2.743 million he has been due to make in the final year of his contract.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/13/2023 4:13:45 PM   
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Free agent WR JuJu Smith-Schuster has agreed to a contract with the Minnesota #Vikings , the Super Bowl champion will now team up with the offensive player of the year Justin Jefferson.

Interesting.

Kwesi better start focusing on clearing some more cap room.

Do these signings mean we have already decided to dump both Smiths and Cook?

And Hicks. Don't forget Hicks.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/13/2023 4:15:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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NFL on EPSN@simpleryan_
Free agent WR JuJu Smith-Schuster has agreed to a contract with the Minnesota #Vikings , the Super Bowl champion will now team up with the offensive player of the year Justin Jefferson.

Interesting.

Kwesi better start focusing on clearing some more cap room.

Do these signings mean we have already decided to dump both Smiths and Cook?

And Hicks. Don't forget Hicks.



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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/13/2023 4:24:37 PM   
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Status: online 		Oliver is an interesting pickup.

He was drafted as a receiving TE, but turned into one of the best blockers in the game:

Josh Oliver’s development has been a unique one. Oliver was not a great blocker at San Jose State and looked to be more of an athletic receiving target in the NFL.

At the NFL Combine, Oliver ran a 4.63-second 40-yard dash, which places him in the 83rd percentile. With that, it looked like Oliver would best fit as a seam breaker tight end to help extend the field vertically.

Now, take all that information and throw it away.

After moving to the Baltimore Ravens, Oliver became one of the best run-blocking tight ends in the NFL. Last season, Oliver ranked second in the NFL, according to Pro Football Focus’ run-blocking grade. Just ahead of him was Ravens teammate Isaiah likely. What is important about these scores is that they were earned mostly inline and not split out as a receiver.

Oliver made his money by being a good run blocker. That’s why the Ravens played him a lot. It’s also why the Vikings likely prioritized Oliver on the first day of free agency.

https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/lists/what-the-josh-oliver-signing-means-for-the-vikings/
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/13/2023 4:29:55 PM   
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Players and agents and “ media specialists are all over social media, planting rumors, outright lies, and setting of smoke screens and “OOOOOOH, SQUIRREL!!!” Fake trade or deal news left and right..

It is called “ legal Tampering period”, for a reason.

I understand the need to find any information you can…

But social media and clickbait “headlines” should be read while chugging a tumbler full of seawater and apple cider vinegar..

Seriously.

Information out there about FA moves and Contracts is about as reliable as using generic single ply toilet paper, one square at a time, after gorging on Taco Bell and beer…

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/13/2023 4:30:10 PM   
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You're over the cap and desperate for defense....why not make your 1st move in FA signing a back up TE?
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/13/2023 4:33:53 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/13/2023 4:34:41 PM   
Phil Riewer


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This is Kwesi trying to show how he's so smart.

You're over the cap and desperate for defense....why not make your 1st move in FA signing a back up TE?


You are looking at it all wrong...wait until the final numbers come in. How often have the Vikes been in on the first day? Usually it is 3rd day to week later and 2nd level FAs....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/13/2023 4:35:59 PM   
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Were definitely seeing Kirk be the guy next year.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/13/2023 4:36:54 PM   
Todd M

 

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

This is Kwesi trying to show how he's so smart.

You're over the cap and desperate for defense....why not make your 1st move in FA signing a back up TE?


You are looking at it all wrong...wait until the final numbers come in. How often have the Vikes been in on the first day? Usually it is 3rd day to week later and 2nd level FAs....


We made our 3rd day move lickity split on day 1.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/13/2023 4:39:19 PM   
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Oliver is an interesting pickup.

He was drafted as a receiving TE, but turned into one of the best blockers in the game:

Josh Oliver’s development has been a unique one. Oliver was not a great blocker at San Jose State and looked to be more of an athletic receiving target in the NFL.

At the NFL Combine, Oliver ran a 4.63-second 40-yard dash, which places him in the 83rd percentile. With that, it looked like Oliver would best fit as a seam breaker tight end to help extend the field vertically.

Now, take all that information and throw it away.

After moving to the Baltimore Ravens, Oliver became one of the best run-blocking tight ends in the NFL. Last season, Oliver ranked second in the NFL, according to Pro Football Focus’ run-blocking grade. Just ahead of him was Ravens teammate Isaiah likely. What is important about these scores is that they were earned mostly inline and not split out as a receiver.

Oliver made his money by being a good run blocker. That’s why the Ravens played him a lot. It’s also why the Vikings likely prioritized Oliver on the first day of free agency.

https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/lists/what-the-josh-oliver-signing-means-for-the-vikings/

I already discredited myself from commenting on Oliver by hyperventilating over the whole TE signing thing ... but dam he looks like a beast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjQd__FcFck

... if we can get Cousins to scamper around like Jackson and extend plays.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/13/2023 4:42:07 PM   
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FB is probably our next move.


Good. Cutting Ham should be out next move.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/13/2023 4:46:00 PM   
David Levine


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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Oliver is an interesting pickup.

He was drafted as a receiving TE, but turned into one of the best blockers in the game:

Josh Oliver’s development has been a unique one. Oliver was not a great blocker at San Jose State and looked to be more of an athletic receiving target in the NFL.

At the NFL Combine, Oliver ran a 4.63-second 40-yard dash, which places him in the 83rd percentile. With that, it looked like Oliver would best fit as a seam breaker tight end to help extend the field vertically.

Now, take all that information and throw it away.

After moving to the Baltimore Ravens, Oliver became one of the best run-blocking tight ends in the NFL. Last season, Oliver ranked second in the NFL, according to Pro Football Focus’ run-blocking grade. Just ahead of him was Ravens teammate Isaiah likely. What is important about these scores is that they were earned mostly inline and not split out as a receiver.

Oliver made his money by being a good run blocker. That’s why the Ravens played him a lot. It’s also why the Vikings likely prioritized Oliver on the first day of free agency.

https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/lists/what-the-josh-oliver-signing-means-for-the-vikings/

I already discredited myself from commenting on Oliver by hyperventilating over the whole TE signing thing ... but dam he looks like a beast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjQd__FcFck

... if we can get Cousins to scamper around like Jackson and extend plays.


He's a beast blocking. Also pretty good at catching poorly thrown passes (man...Jackson is all over the place with his accuracy),
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/13/2023 4:55:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Oliver is an interesting pickup.

He was drafted as a receiving TE, but turned into one of the best blockers in the game:

Josh Oliver’s development has been a unique one. Oliver was not a great blocker at San Jose State and looked to be more of an athletic receiving target in the NFL.

At the NFL Combine, Oliver ran a 4.63-second 40-yard dash, which places him in the 83rd percentile. With that, it looked like Oliver would best fit as a seam breaker tight end to help extend the field vertically.

Now, take all that information and throw it away.

After moving to the Baltimore Ravens, Oliver became one of the best run-blocking tight ends in the NFL. Last season, Oliver ranked second in the NFL, according to Pro Football Focus’ run-blocking grade. Just ahead of him was Ravens teammate Isaiah likely. What is important about these scores is that they were earned mostly inline and not split out as a receiver.

Oliver made his money by being a good run blocker. That’s why the Ravens played him a lot. It’s also why the Vikings likely prioritized Oliver on the first day of free agency.

https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/lists/what-the-josh-oliver-signing-means-for-the-vikings/

I already discredited myself from commenting on Oliver by hyperventilating over the whole TE signing thing ... but dam he looks like a beast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjQd__FcFck

... if we can get Cousins to scamper around like Jackson and extend plays.


God he abused Miles Garrett several times, once blocking him all the way across the LOS.

He is on his man in a flash.

Probably our best blocker regardless of position.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/13/2023 4:56:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Oliver is an interesting pickup.

He was drafted as a receiving TE, but turned into one of the best blockers in the game:

Josh Oliver’s development has been a unique one. Oliver was not a great blocker at San Jose State and looked to be more of an athletic receiving target in the NFL.

At the NFL Combine, Oliver ran a 4.63-second 40-yard dash, which places him in the 83rd percentile. With that, it looked like Oliver would best fit as a seam breaker tight end to help extend the field vertically.

Now, take all that information and throw it away.

After moving to the Baltimore Ravens, Oliver became one of the best run-blocking tight ends in the NFL. Last season, Oliver ranked second in the NFL, according to Pro Football Focus’ run-blocking grade. Just ahead of him was Ravens teammate Isaiah likely. What is important about these scores is that they were earned mostly inline and not split out as a receiver.

Oliver made his money by being a good run blocker. That’s why the Ravens played him a lot. It’s also why the Vikings likely prioritized Oliver on the first day of free agency.

https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/lists/what-the-josh-oliver-signing-means-for-the-vikings/

I already discredited myself from commenting on Oliver by hyperventilating over the whole TE signing thing ... but dam he looks like a beast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjQd__FcFck

... if we can get Cousins to scamper around like Jackson and extend plays.


God he abused Miles Garrett several times, once blocking him all the way across the LOS.

He is on his man in a flash.

Probably our best blocker regardless of position.


He looks like the kind of blocker that people imagined Kleinsasser was...

Considering the issues our OLine is going to continue to have, I have a hard time finding fault with the signing.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/13/2023 4:57:15 PM   
Bill Johanesen


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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

This is Kwesi trying to show how he's so smart.

You're over the cap and desperate for defense....why not make your 1st move in FA signing a back up TE?


You are looking at it all wrong...wait until the final numbers come in. How often have the Vikes been in on the first day? Usually it is 3rd day to week later and 2nd level FAs....


We made our 3rd day move lickity split on day 1.


Yes, we swooped in!
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/13/2023 5:19:51 PM   
Tom Sykes

 

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Oliver is an interesting pickup.

He was drafted as a receiving TE, but turned into one of the best blockers in the game:

Josh Oliver’s development has been a unique one. Oliver was not a great blocker at San Jose State and looked to be more of an athletic receiving target in the NFL.

At the NFL Combine, Oliver ran a 4.63-second 40-yard dash, which places him in the 83rd percentile. With that, it looked like Oliver would best fit as a seam breaker tight end to help extend the field vertically.

Now, take all that information and throw it away.

After moving to the Baltimore Ravens, Oliver became one of the best run-blocking tight ends in the NFL. Last season, Oliver ranked second in the NFL, according to Pro Football Focus’ run-blocking grade. Just ahead of him was Ravens teammate Isaiah likely. What is important about these scores is that they were earned mostly inline and not split out as a receiver.

Oliver made his money by being a good run blocker. That’s why the Ravens played him a lot. It’s also why the Vikings likely prioritized Oliver on the first day of free agency.

https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/lists/what-the-josh-oliver-signing-means-for-the-vikings/

I already discredited myself from commenting on Oliver by hyperventilating over the whole TE signing thing ... but dam he looks like a beast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjQd__FcFck

... if we can get Cousins to scamper around like Jackson and extend plays.


God he abused Miles Garrett several times, once blocking him all the way across the LOS.

He is on his man in a flash.

Probably our best blocker regardless of position.

So ...

Oliver
Darrisaw
O'Neill
Ham
Hock
Cook
Osborne
JJ
Cousins
Jennifer who runs out during the time-outs with the water bottles
Ingram
Cleveland
*Bradbury

*still trying to resign
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/13/2023 5:25:21 PM   
Bill Johanesen


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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Oliver is an interesting pickup.

He was drafted as a receiving TE, but turned into one of the best blockers in the game:

Josh Oliver’s development has been a unique one. Oliver was not a great blocker at San Jose State and looked to be more of an athletic receiving target in the NFL.

At the NFL Combine, Oliver ran a 4.63-second 40-yard dash, which places him in the 83rd percentile. With that, it looked like Oliver would best fit as a seam breaker tight end to help extend the field vertically.

Now, take all that information and throw it away.

After moving to the Baltimore Ravens, Oliver became one of the best run-blocking tight ends in the NFL. Last season, Oliver ranked second in the NFL, according to Pro Football Focus’ run-blocking grade. Just ahead of him was Ravens teammate Isaiah likely. What is important about these scores is that they were earned mostly inline and not split out as a receiver.

Oliver made his money by being a good run blocker. That’s why the Ravens played him a lot. It’s also why the Vikings likely prioritized Oliver on the first day of free agency.

https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/lists/what-the-josh-oliver-signing-means-for-the-vikings/

I already discredited myself from commenting on Oliver by hyperventilating over the whole TE signing thing ... but dam he looks like a beast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjQd__FcFck

... if we can get Cousins to scamper around like Jackson and extend plays.


God he abused Miles Garrett several times, once blocking him all the way across the LOS.

He is on his man in a flash.

Probably our best blocker regardless of position.

So ...

Oliver
Darrisaw
O'Neill
Ham
Hock
Cook
Osborne
JJ
Cousins
Jennifer who runs out during the time-outs with the water bottles
Ingram
Cleveland
*Bradbury

*still trying to resign


As of this moment, yes.

Drop the British e and go with plain ole American Osborn.

I don't think they will keep Cooke.

< Message edited by Bill Johanesen -- 3/13/2023 5:27:51 PM >
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/13/2023 5:34:06 PM   
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We've got someone who can block! Whew! Especially since Kirk ain't going anywhere this year.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/13/2023 5:45:39 PM   
Bill Jandro

 

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*still trying to resign


I hope not

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/13/2023 6:08:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Vikings agreed to terms with Oliver on a three-year deal, per sources.

What it means: The Vikings are looking for ways to elevate their run efficiency after ranking No. 26 in the NFL last season with 4.1 yards per carry, while tying for No. 23 in the league with a first-down rate of 23%. This move suggests they will attempt to do so with an increased rate of "12" personnel, featuring two tight ends, after using it at the NFL's seventh-lowest rate in 2022. Because there's no reason to think that Oliver, who has 26 catches in 35 NFL games, will cut into the playing time of incumbent tight end T.J. Hockenson. And the Vikings didn't jump out on the first day of free agency to sign a part-time player. Oliver developed a reputation as a strong run blocker during his time in Baltimore.

What's the risk: We will see exactly what the real numbers look like from Oliver's contract, but it's not often a team jumps out and grabs a blocking tight end on the first day of free agency. How much return does a team get from a tight end who, based on previous patterns, is not a threat in the passing game? Does a team need to act with this kind of urgency to lock one down, or can one be found in the mid-to-late parts of the draft? For a team that was still working to get under the salary cap at the time it made this deal, every dollar counts.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/13/2023 6:45:15 PM   
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Status: online 		I am just glad Josh Oliver has a "J" in his name, anyone that catches passes for the Vikings should have a "J" in their name.

JuJu Smith-Schuster also fits the bill.

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