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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/28/2023 3:18:34 AM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/28/2023 7:40:57 AM   
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This off season, I would have moved him to LG, where he played in college.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/28/2023 7:46:29 AM  2 votes
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I think if Ed Ingram takes a step forward this season, then he'll stop stepping on Kirk's foot.


That's a good line.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/30/2023 1:56:06 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/30/2023 4:57:19 PM   
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What the hell isn't right with Dantzler? Seems so strange...


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Think Zimmer ruined every cb Rick drafted.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/30/2023 10:14:36 PM   
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What the hell isn't right with Dantzler? Seems so strange...


John Keim
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Commanders announce they have released CB Cam Dantzler. Placed G Andrew Norwell on the reserve/PUP list.
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Think Zimmer ruined every cb Rick drafted.

Under zimmer, the fourth round Dantzler looked like a competent NFL player when healthy

< Message edited by thebigo -- 5/30/2023 10:15:45 PM >
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/31/2023 1:34:51 AM   
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Full of himself, not a team guy..

Taunting ring any bells?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/31/2023 1:44:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: David F.

What the hell isn't right with Dantzler? Seems so strange...


John Keim
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Commanders announce they have released CB Cam Dantzler. Placed G Andrew Norwell on the reserve/PUP list.
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Think Zimmer ruined every cb Rick drafted.

Under zimmer, the fourth round Dantzler looked like a competent NFL player when healthy



Washington had zero cap space and dantzler was making $2.8mm due to escalators...if he clears waivers he can be had for vet minimum - i'd bring him back here for $1mm....





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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/31/2023 7:07:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		I would definitely bring back Dantzler for vet minimum, he could excell as a 4th or 5th CB, and bring a little veteran presence for the young 2ndary.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/31/2023 8:45:30 AM   
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If Dantzler is a problem child why bring him back?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/31/2023 9:40:45 AM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/31/2023 1:06:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		So the Vikings got Diggs for a 5th rounder, then got a 1st rounder from the Bills for him that they used to draft Jefferson. So for a 5th round pick, we've got 5 years of Diggs, 3 years (and counting) of a 23 year old Jefferson. Not bad.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/31/2023 1:09:09 PM   
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https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/news-trevon-diggs-drops-major-update-stefon-diggs-cowboys-future-now-deleted-tweet

https://heavy.com/sports/buffalo-bills/concerns-grow-bills-stefon-diggs-cryptic-posts/
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/31/2023 1:12:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Diggs is a very destructive personality at the first sign of trouble IMO.

He is a lot of things but a leader isn't one of them.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/31/2023 5:01:19 PM   
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Diggs is a very destructive personality at the first sign of trouble IMO.

He is a lot of things but a leader isn't one of them.


I think he is way too emotional which makes him a problematic leader.

Hopkins is looking at KC and Buffalo as landing spots......

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/31/2023 6:35:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Blackmon, Booth, Evans, and Murphy.....

If Dantzler is a problem child why bring him back?

I don't know, maybe because the current lineup is: Blackmon, Booth, Evans and Murphy.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/31/2023 7:05:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Murphy started 9 games last season, so he missed 8 games ?

Booth looked bad, and he missed most of the season.

Evans was the 4th CB last year, and he missed the last month.

Blackmon is a rookie, haven't seen him play an NFL down yet.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/1/2023 8:01:55 AM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/1/2023 9:10:59 AM   
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See if they make Cook a June 1 casualty., although I believe teams can designate up to two players as June 1 cuts prior to that date. Allows those players to hit the market earlier.

Should be interesting. I would hate to stand still and lean on Cook’s diminishing returns.

Would also love to purge more salary / zimmer aftertaste.

Would like to see a KOC offense with more of a KOC stamp …
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/1/2023 10:39:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

See if they make Cook a June 1 casualty., although I believe teams can designate up to two players as June 1 cuts prior to that date. Allows those players to hit the market earlier.

Should be interesting. I would hate to stand still and lean on Cook’s diminishing returns.

Would also love to purge more salary / zimmer aftertaste.

Would like to see a KOC offense with more of a KOC stamp …



there's a metric some use where they look at a rb's first 10 carries in a game and then carries 11-20...the good rb's have more yds/carry in the second tier - after the defense tires a bit....

over the last two seasons cook has been something like 4.5 and then 3.5...time to let him go....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/1/2023 10:47:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

See if they make Cook a June 1 casualty., although I believe teams can designate up to two players as June 1 cuts prior to that date. Allows those players to hit the market earlier.

Should be interesting. I would hate to stand still and lean on Cook’s diminishing returns.

Would also love to purge more salary / zimmer aftertaste.

Would like to see a KOC offense with more of a KOC stamp …



there's a metric some use where they look at a rb's first 10 carries in a game and then carries 11-20...the good rb's have more yds/carry in the second tier - after the defense tires a bit....

over the last two seasons cook has been something like 4.5 and then 3.5...time to let him go....


Roll unused cap to next year. Kwesi would call that a conditional defrayed budgetary decision.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/1/2023 10:56:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

See if they make Cook a June 1 casualty., although I believe teams can designate up to two players as June 1 cuts prior to that date. Allows those players to hit the market earlier.

Should be interesting. I would hate to stand still and lean on Cook’s diminishing returns.

Would also love to purge more salary / zimmer aftertaste.

Would like to see a KOC offense with more of a KOC stamp …



there's a metric some use where they look at a rb's first 10 carries in a game and then carries 11-20...the good rb's have more yds/carry in the second tier - after the defense tires a bit....

over the last two seasons cook has been something like 4.5 and then 3.5...time to let him go....


My very untrained, and unqualified opinion of Cook's running style has been that he look's like a guy making business decisions everytime he surveys the oncoming tacklers.

Next!

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/1/2023 11:11:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

See if they make Cook a June 1 casualty., although I believe teams can designate up to two players as June 1 cuts prior to that date. Allows those players to hit the market earlier.

Should be interesting. I would hate to stand still and lean on Cook’s diminishing returns.

Would also love to purge more salary / zimmer aftertaste.

Would like to see a KOC offense with more of a KOC stamp …



there's a metric some use where they look at a rb's first 10 carries in a game and then carries 11-20...the good rb's have more yds/carry in the second tier - after the defense tires a bit....

over the last two seasons cook has been something like 4.5 and then 3.5...time to let him go....


My very untrained, and unqualified opinion of Cook's running style has been that he look's like a guy making business decisions everytime he surveys the oncoming tacklers.

Next!


I think he should have had shoulder surgery over 2 years ago after he received his extension in Sept 2020.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/1/2023 11:38:13 AM   
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2023: $10.4M salary, $100K workout bonus, $500K LTBE playing-time incentive, $11M cap hit

2024: $11.9M salary, $100K bonus, $500K incentive, $12.5M cap hit

2025: $13.9M salary, $100K bonus, $500K incentive, $14.5M cap hit
9:52 AM · May 31, 2023

No team is trading for this...

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/1/2023 11:50:27 AM   
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What an acquiring team would owe Dalvin Cook:

2023: $10.4M salary, $100K workout bonus, $500K LTBE playing-time incentive, $11M cap hit

2024: $11.9M salary, $100K bonus, $500K incentive, $12.5M cap hit

2025: $13.9M salary, $100K bonus, $500K incentive, $14.5M cap hit
9:52 AM · May 31, 2023

No team is trading for this...


Tell them we’ll throw in reagor and a 2035 conditional seventh round pick….

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