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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/12/2023 5:18:08 PM   
David Levine


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Too bad we can't trade Cousins to the Jets


Now, that's not a terrible idea. It would be giving up on this season, but we'd be able to stockpile draft picks which, in my opinion, are more valuable than Cousins at this point.


Way better to get something rather than nothing for him. It's not giving up on the season as much as believing the season is going to go bad anyway. Bit of a difference. If the thinking is we should be able to sniff the playoffs, then that would be giving up.

I didn't expect a lot out of the D, but it let Baker Mayfield build confidence to the point he was laughing and making plays at will to win the game. Meanwhile, I didn't see Cousins interact once with a player. He sat on the edge of the bench by himself, although sometimes with an assistant yapping with his iPad.


Because you have video of him for the entire time on the sidelines for the whole game to make this assessment?

Come on.


What can't you comprehend from "I didn't see..."


You're making a pretty strong judgement based on what you did see. And I did see him talking with JJ at one point. You are making a pretty strong judgement based on an unverifiable assumption.

I comprehend very well. You judge unfairly in my opinion based solely on the limited video you saw which probably covered less than 30 seconds of the time he was on the sidelines.


Yeah I guess when the camera was not on him at the end of the bench by himself, he walking the sidelines inspiring his teammates, conferring with KOC, and even chuckling about a couple of things to try to show he wasn't really mentally isolated. Right. Got it.


You have NO IDEA. You are INDEED GUESSING.


And so are YOU! Clearly, his time on the camera supports my assertion and not yours. Deal with it.


Of course I am. I can at least admit that.

You can't seem to get that you are making an assertion based on excessively limited facts. Like asserting that since a guy didn't contribute week one, he's useless. Guess JJ was useless in 2020 then.


So the camera wasn't on KC the entire game. What a revelation! OMG! How seemingly smart you are! What bothers you so much about "I didn't see... KC anywhere except on the bench."? Is it getting in your craw? LMAO!

I don't know what your 'useless' thing is with me, but it's off base. Wrong, but good try though as a disingenuous desperation move.


I am not in any way desperate.

My point, from the beginning, with Richard, since you can't comprehend it, was simple. He made an assessment of KC's interaction with teammates on the sidelines based soley on the few seconds of video the network showed of him during the game.

Useless was the word Richard used and you hopped on the critical of Kwesi bandwagon with him. Nothing is in my craw.

I just think one game is too short a time to make judgements on an entire season. and Less then a minute enough video to judge a QBs interaction with teammates on the sidelines.

I know that's hard for you to understand.

But whatever. Thus throw some more insults and attacks my way. That is your MO in Every thread.


I personally don't care what took place on the sideline. Kirk seems like a nice guy and a good person. My issue with Cousins is that he doesn't have a killer instinct. I want a QB that is going to look you in the eye as he cuts out your heart and laughs at you as he does it. Take a look at the great QB's, they all have that killer instinct. Cousins just doesn't have that "I'm going to crush you until you give up" attitude...we need someone with a Michael Jordan attitude.


Good Luck finding that. The last one we had like that was probably Tommy and he didn't have the talent to win it all....

You just have to build a better team.....Philly thought they had it all last year.....2023 back to the drawing board.


When you lose the SB by 3 points and have a 25-year-old stud QB, there is no "back to the drawing board". You just regroup and try again.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/12/2023 5:18:53 PM   
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Sorry DL I was just watching highlights, and posted.

Just saw your post…😳
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/12/2023 5:43:31 PM   
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Another positive note-

Those throwback uniforms were freakin amazing…..

A shame to lose in them, but hope to see the road whites with the UCLA stripes on the shoulders on Thursday.

I love the whites! Prob more so than the home jersey
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/12/2023 5:48:43 PM   
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I liked my performance, I think I did pretty good...

WTF!!! where is leadership???

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/12/2023 5:49:51 PM   
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...just in case u didnt know.
Ed Turnstile after the game.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/12/2023 7:32:31 PM   
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Vikings had the ball for just under 10 min in the 2nd half. Ouch!

3 drives. The 20 play 76 yarder for a TD was nice but the next two were almost identically sad : minus yds pass play, dink/dunk, incomplete short ... kiind of hard for JJ or anyone else to go off in that environment

No doubt the interception by the goal line makes it a whole different game before the half, but you'll have that every game (see #19)

I seen comments that "the defense wore down in the 2nd half". Well da.

Looking like Bowles made good halftime adjustments. O'Connell not so much.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/12/2023 8:29:47 PM   
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My favorite tweet this week

https://twitter.com/davehill77/status/1701610014631452775
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/12/2023 9:21:37 PM   
Richard Neussendorfer

 

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Can we go to the "throwbacks" permanently??
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/13/2023 7:06:31 AM   
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Is Risner more of a possibility now that the Vikings restructured O'Neill's contract to clear $10M?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/13/2023 7:06:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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Another positive note-

Those throwback uniforms were freakin amazing…..

A shame to lose in them, but hope to see the road whites with the UCLA stripes on the shoulders on Thursday.

I love the whites! Prob more so than the home jersey

Me too Ricky

Sharp!
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/13/2023 7:21:35 AM   
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Can we go to the "throwbacks" permanently??



That would be great….

Big upgrade, especially from those USFL uni’s we had prior to last years edition.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/13/2023 7:49:29 AM   
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My favorite tweet this week

https://twitter.com/davehill77/status/1701610014631452775


Cheeseheads are really stupid

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/13/2023 7:55:24 AM   
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I think it's time to sit Ingram. He didn't looked like he has improved at all and now has graduated to stripping Cousins of the ball vs stepping on his foot. Time to give Brandel an opportunity.

I was hoping Kwesi wasn't one of those GM's that is more concerned about being right about a player than what is good for the team. Ingram is the worst G in the NFL by a country mile.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/13/2023 10:07:17 AM   
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This is crazy:

@Andrew_Krammer
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Raschaad White told http://Buccaneers.com that Baker Mayfield said "we got all their signals" at halftime re: Vikings' defensive adjustments before snap.

TB far from prolific, but they had three 10+ play drives and limited Vikings to 9:57 time of possession in 2H.

https://x.com/Andrew_Krammer/status/1701967819686981711?s=20
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/13/2023 10:33:24 AM   
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This is crazy:

@Andrew_Krammer
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Raschaad White told http://Buccaneers.com that Baker Mayfield said "we got all their signals" at halftime re: Vikings' defensive adjustments before snap.

TB far from prolific, but they had three 10+ play drives and limited Vikings to 9:57 time of possession in 2H.

https://x.com/Andrew_Krammer/status/1701967819686981711?s=20



Question

How did they get the signals?

This should tell Flores and KOC they need to be better at disguising and they need to adapt at Hafltime.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/13/2023 10:48:59 AM   
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Some day we’ll be a team that prepares, executes, and finishes. Doesn’t shoot themselves in the foot.

Barely hanging on here. Not sure what will be left after we start 0-2 getting killed by the Eagles.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/13/2023 10:52:54 AM   
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This is crazy:

@Andrew_Krammer
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Raschaad White told http://Buccaneers.com that Baker Mayfield said "we got all their signals" at halftime re: Vikings' defensive adjustments before snap.

TB far from prolific, but they had three 10+ play drives and limited Vikings to 9:57 time of possession in 2H.

https://x.com/Andrew_Krammer/status/1701967819686981711?s=20



Question

How did they get the signals?

This should tell Flores and KOC they need to be better at disguising and they need to adapt at Hafltime.


Well you really analyzed the problem and came up with a solution there didn’t you?

< Message edited by Todd M -- 9/13/2023 10:54:51 AM >
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/13/2023 11:08:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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This is crazy:

@Andrew_Krammer
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Raschaad White told http://Buccaneers.com that Baker Mayfield said "we got all their signals" at halftime re: Vikings' defensive adjustments before snap.

TB far from prolific, but they had three 10+ play drives and limited Vikings to 9:57 time of possession in 2H.

https://x.com/Andrew_Krammer/status/1701967819686981711?s=20



Question

How did they get the signals?

This should tell Flores and KOC they need to be better at disguising and they need to adapt at Hafltime.


Well you really analyzed the problem and came up with a solution there didn’t you?

Baker Mayfield just helped the vikings more than most of the offseason moves.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/13/2023 11:09:10 AM   
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Some day we’ll be a team that prepares, executes, and finishes. Doesn’t shoot themselves in the foot.

Barely hanging on here. Not sure what will be left after we start 0-2 getting killed by the Eagles.


When will that be?
Been waiting a long time...
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/13/2023 11:12:40 AM   
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Some day we’ll be a team that prepares, executes, and finishes. Doesn’t shoot themselves in the foot.

Barely hanging on here. Not sure what will be left after we start 0-2 getting killed by the Eagles.


When will that be?
Been waiting a long time...


In 30 years as we approach our 100th season…and still haven’t won a SB…there will stilll be some calling the next year the year we finally get it done.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/13/2023 11:17:53 AM   
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Some day we’ll be a team that prepares, executes, and finishes. Doesn’t shoot themselves in the foot.

Barely hanging on here. Not sure what will be left after we start 0-2 getting killed by the Eagles.

Since we played the Eagles week 2 last year ... will be interesting to see if our our 'offseason plan' has gained any ground on the big boys.

And by big boys I mean the tough teams from start to finish.

Not that offseason plans are all that. It doesn't mean that a team can't start slow and end strong or that a good team can't fizzle.

Course corrections and adjustments are more important than offseason and game plans.

IMO adding Hockensen last year in season was about the only course correction that happened.

One small answer is standing out there begging for an opportunity. Not sure Risner's any good ... something is turning people off. But if we're going to audition felony RBs, the least we can do is give him a non-guaranteed shot.

< Message edited by Tom Sykes -- 9/13/2023 11:20:25 AM >
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/13/2023 11:19:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Some day we’ll be a team that prepares, executes, and finishes. Doesn’t shoot themselves in the foot.

Barely hanging on here. Not sure what will be left after we start 0-2 getting killed by the Eagles.


When will that be?
Been waiting a long time...


In 30 years as we approach our 100th season…and still haven’t won a SB…there will stilll be some calling the next year the year we finally get it done.

And wondering why we still have Kirk 'gives us our best chance' Cousins dead money on the books.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/13/2023 11:19:45 AM   
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This is crazy:

@Andrew_Krammer
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Raschaad White told http://Buccaneers.com that Baker Mayfield said "we got all their signals" at halftime re: Vikings' defensive adjustments before snap.

TB far from prolific, but they had three 10+ play drives and limited Vikings to 9:57 time of possession in 2H.

https://x.com/Andrew_Krammer/status/1701967819686981711?s=20



Question

How did they get the signals?

This should tell Flores and KOC they need to be better at disguising and they need to adapt at Hafltime.


Well you really analyzed the problem and came up with a solution there didn’t you?

Baker Mayfield just helped the vikings more than most of the offseason moves.

I'm thinking that little bit of info is pretty valuable myself
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/13/2023 11:22:16 AM   
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Some day we’ll be a team that prepares, executes, and finishes. Doesn’t shoot themselves in the foot.

Barely hanging on here. Not sure what will be left after we start 0-2 getting killed by the Eagles.

Since we played the Eagles week 2 last year ... will be interesting to see if our our 'offseason plan' has gained any ground on the big boys.

And by big boys I mean the tough teams from start to finish.

Not that offseason plans are all that. It doesn't mean that a team can't start slow and end strong or that a good team can't fizzle.

Course corrections and adjustments are more important than offseason and game plans.

IMO adding Hockensen last year in season was about the only course correction that happened.

One small answer is standing out there begging for an opportunity. Not sure Risner's any good ... something is turning people off. But if we're going to audition felony RBs, the least we can do is give him a non-guaranteed shot.

Unfortunately we've turned Hock into a 3 yard and a cloud of dust receiving TE.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/13/2023 11:23:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

This is crazy:

@Andrew_Krammer
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Raschaad White told http://Buccaneers.com that Baker Mayfield said "we got all their signals" at halftime re: Vikings' defensive adjustments before snap.

TB far from prolific, but they had three 10+ play drives and limited Vikings to 9:57 time of possession in 2H.

https://x.com/Andrew_Krammer/status/1701967819686981711?s=20



Question

How did they get the signals?

This should tell Flores and KOC they need to be better at disguising and they need to adapt at Hafltime.


Well you really analyzed the problem and came up with a solution there didn’t you?

Baker Mayfield just helped the vikings more than most of the offseason moves.

I'm thinking that little bit of info is pretty valuable myself

It has to be an overstatement.

No way our new aggressive unpredictable multi-faceted keep-the-offense-guessing mastermind could be that transparently predictable.

Right?
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