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Just keep in mind, you and Sims could GUESS right or wrong. Its still a wild guess.

I don't think it's a wild guess. I really believe Simms is good at this.

Nobody picking Zach Wilson over Lawrence is good at this.

He’s in the same ballpark as kiper and zierlein and a bunch of others. l
do give him credit for being willing to go against the grain … like he did with Wilson and he’s doing this year with Nix and Maye.

Seems more like shtick than science.

As I’ve mentioned, I have a buddy who follows college football obsessively who completely agrees with him on Nix.

He also had Mond as one of the 3 best qb's in that class

First of all he had Mond 4th. 2nd duh he's going to get some wrong. He's right more than anybody else.

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From the poll at the bottom of the article:

"Should the Vikings trade draft picks #11 and #42 and a 4th round pick this year, along with their 2025 first- and third-round picks for the Commanders #2 pick this year and draft Jayden Daniels?"

That would be exciting if nothing else!

A lot of top 5 qb's bust. Just think Mitch Trubisky, Zach Wilson, and Trey Lance. I'd rather take my chances with Penix and his knees than trading draft capital for a wing and a prayer.

I don't think you can let fear enter the equation.

If you like a guy, go get him. You job is likely going to hinge on who you get as your QB, so do whatever you can to get the guy yiu think is the best. Not the last man standing.

And you might as well trade future picks. If you nail the QB pick, you can survive giving up those picks. If you miss on the QB, you likely won't be here to draft anyways...

All this do whatever it takes to get one player in the draft that you like is ridiculous. There comes a point where it's too expensive. What if the cost is Jefferson, Darrisaw, Addison, and our next 10 first round picks. If that is what it takes do you do it? No and sure that's ridiculous, but it's just to prove the point that you don't do whatever it takes no matter what. There is a point it becomes too expensive.

That is not what he said and you know it. David's point was that if you identify someone you think is the guy, you shouldn't be afraid to get him because he might bust. Nobody has advocated selling the farm to move up 4 or 5 spots. Stating a ridiculous hypothetical doesn't make your point. There are value charts that govern what it takes to move up.

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Unless we can get to 2 the Daniel’s dream is done.

Get to 5 and choose between JJ, Maye, or Penix. They might all be gone at 11.

I don’t want the runt of the litter, Nix. The 6th freaking option. Though Nix Six does have a ring to it.

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Not securing a QB is not a good look, but picking a QB who ends up being a bust after two+ years of starting is an even worse look.

At the end of the day, it's entirely possible the regime thinks trading for Caleb and Daniels will cost too much (on the order of 3-4 first rounders) AND they don't think Maye, Penix, McCarthy, or Nix project to being successful QBs.

In that case they take a top defender at #11 and, if the 'top six' QBs are gone, they take a Rattler-type at #42. Or defense with both picks.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Not securing a QB is not a good look, but picking a QB who ends up being a bust after two+ years of starting is an even worse look.

At the end of the day, it's entirely possible the regime thinks trading for Caleb and Daniels will cost too much (on the order of 3-4 first rounders) AND they don't think Maye, Penix, McCarthy, or Nix project to being successful QBs.

In that case they take a top defender at #11 and, if the 'top six' QBs are gone, they take a Rattler-type at #42. Or defense with both picks.

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Not securing a QB is not a good look, but picking a QB who ends up being a bust after two+ years of starting is an even worse look.

At the end of the day, it's entirely possible the regime thinks trading for Caleb and Daniels will cost too much (on the order of 3-4 first rounders) AND they don't think Maye, Penix, McCarthy, or Nix project to being successful QBs.

In that case they take a top defender at #11 and, if the 'top six' QBs are gone, they take a Rattler-type at #42. Or defense with both picks.

If they don't take a QB at 11, they trade down to add picks. It's that simple.

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Not securing a QB is not a good look, but picking a QB who ends up being a bust after two+ years of starting is an even worse look.

At the end of the day, it's entirely possible the regime thinks trading for Caleb and Daniels will cost too much (on the order of 3-4 first rounders) AND they don't think Maye, Penix, McCarthy, or Nix project to being successful QBs.

In that case they take a top defender at #11 and, if the 'top six' QBs are gone, they take a Rattler-type at #42. Or defense with both picks.

I would say, picking a QB that starts for two years and ends up being a dud is not worse than NOT taking a QB …especially this year.

Even Williams is a risk … there’s risk in every draft pick. The issue wasn’t taking a chance on Ponder, given the options, it was holding on to him way too long. Course correct and move on. Everybody misses on picks. Some picks blow past expectations.

If this was year one … ok … be choosy and patient. Year two … there’s more pressure to to make a more aggressive move or take a higher risk guy (i dont mean a 5th rounder). If you don’t see potential starter in the first two rds - and you couldnt trade up … ok. I still think its a failure to not take a chance on someone in the grab bag third rd.

Year 3? Not only have we misplayed the veteran starter position, we need a backup and a developmental player to, at the very least kick Hall to the curb.

I’m not selling out for just anybody but I am taking a chance on somebody to give ourselves a chance. Even as you say, if they only see starter potential in the top two, you cant tell me that we can go another year without giving attention to the position. Urgently.

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Agree Bill. If that's their thoughts just pass and sign a guy like Minchew, trade down and keep acquiring talent. We are just a QB away.

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Not securing a QB is not a good look, but picking a QB who ends up being a bust after two+ years of starting is an even worse look.

At the end of the day, it's entirely possible the regime thinks trading for Caleb and Daniels will cost too much (on the order of 3-4 first rounders) AND they don't think Maye, Penix, McCarthy, or Nix project to being successful QBs.

In that case they take a top defender at #11 and, if the 'top six' QBs are gone, they take a Rattler-type at #42. Or defense with both picks.

I would say, picking a QB that starts for two years and ends up being a dud is not worse than NOT taking a QB …especially this year.

Even Williams is a risk … there’s risk in every draft pick. The issue wasn’t taking a chance on Ponder, given the options, it was holding on to him way too long. Course correct and move on. Everybody misses on picks. Some picks blow past expectations.

If this was year one … ok … be choosy and patient. Year two … there’s more pressure to to make a more aggressive move or take a higher risk guy (i dont mean a 5th rounder). If you don’t see potential starter in the first two rds - and you couldnt trade up … ok. I still think its a failure to not take a chance on someone in the grab bag third rd.

Year 3? Not only have we misplayed the veteran starter position, we need a backup and a developmental player to, at the very least kick Hall to the curb.

I’m not selling out for just anybody but I am taking a chance on somebody to give ourselves a chance. Even as you say, if they only see starter potential in the top two, you cant tell me that we can go another year without giving attention to the position. Urgently.

I'm just saying if they believe, strongly believe, the other four QBs won't be any good, then don't take them in the first place. Or take one somewhere in the 2nd round (or late 1st?... assuming one is around) depending on how they weigh the pick vs the player.

But as you allude to, they would come across as misplaying the position. So that might factor in.

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Agree Bill. If that's their thoughts just pass and sign a guy like Minchew, trade down and keep acquiring talent. We are just a QB away.

I would argue about the QB away.

But my big issue is with the, ‘just sign a guy like …’ which has no more certainty than, ‘just trade up for / just take whover falls to #11’ etc.

There’s no agency in it. I have no idea how we rate the prospects but I’d prefer we at least have the appearance of trying to make something happen.

I want to see Kwesi stick his long slender swan-like neck out.

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Should Dallas Turner fall to the Vikes, do they have a place for him ?

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I’d make Washington an offer they can’t refuse.

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Pennix has a strong accurate arm, has no mobility and choked in the big game. Sound familiar?