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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Dave Odle

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

I've got a University of Michigan Polo shirt that my wife mistakenly bought me thinking it was Minnesota. I'm going to be wearing it in anticipation of us drafting JJ McCarthy hopefully at 8 or later.

Honestly, it's McCarthy's meteoric ascent from a projected 2nd rounder to a top 5 pick that really scares me; but that's the beauty of the draft. You just never know until at least a year later. There are lots of 1st round picks who flame out. Sam Darnold is one of them and our placeholder right now.

The numbers for McCarthy are ridiculously good, but just at low volume. I think he is fine at 11 and consider his age he might even be worth a small trade up. I don't think his arm will fall off throwing 30-40 passes a game instead of 20.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Draft Day Checklist:
1. Put KGBum on Ignore.
2. Everything else.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

ESPN. Yates final Mock:

Projected trade: Minnesota can't wait any longer
Vikings get: No. 8
Falcons get: No. 11, No. 129 and a 2025 third-rounder

This is a smaller move up the board than we've discussed frequently during the pre-draft process -- Minnesota jumping into the Nos. 3-5 range -- but the Vikings can slide up just three spots at a much less prohibitive cost to snag a quarterback here based on the way the board is coming together.

8. Minnesota Vikings (via mock trade with ATL)
J.J. McCarthy, QB, Michigan

McCarthy would be in an excellent situation with Minnesota's supporting cast, and the Vikings would also preserve their No. 23 pick by moving to only No. 8 to get him. McCarthy has the high-end accuracy to get the ball to Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison, as well as the mobility to pick up yards on the ground. And I know Minnesota has Sam Darnold, but I believe McCarthy would start right away.

23. Minnesota Vikings (via CLE/HOU)
Laiatu Latu, EDGE, UCLA

Latu would join Jonathan Greenard for Minnesota's new-look pass rush on defense. He had the best tape of any defensive player in the class and can become a double-digit sack artist in the NFL. After all, he had 23.5 of them over the past two seasons at UCLA. Medical concerns over a prior neck injury (while at Washington in 2020) would be the only reason he slides to this slot.

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He has Byron Murphy going 11, Penix 13 and Nix 19 to the Rams.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2024/insider/story/_/id/40006988/2024-nfl-mock-draft-field-yates-first-round-32-picks-final-predictions

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ORIGINAL: Dave Odle

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Draft Day Checklist:
1. Put KGBum on Ignore.
2. Everything else.

No idea, man. I've been gone for a long time. Just talking football!

I'm really excited for tonight. It's good to "see" everyone again!

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

ESPN. Yates final Mock:

Projected trade: Minnesota can't wait any longer
Vikings get: No. 8
Falcons get: No. 11, No. 129 and a 2025 third-rounder

This is a smaller move up the board than we've discussed frequently during the pre-draft process -- Minnesota jumping into the Nos. 3-5 range -- but the Vikings can slide up just three spots at a much less prohibitive cost to snag a quarterback here based on the way the board is coming together.

8. Minnesota Vikings (via mock trade with ATL)
J.J. McCarthy, QB, Michigan

McCarthy would be in an excellent situation with Minnesota's supporting cast, and the Vikings would also preserve their No. 23 pick by moving to only No. 8 to get him. McCarthy has the high-end accuracy to get the ball to Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison, as well as the mobility to pick up yards on the ground. And I know Minnesota has Sam Darnold, but I believe McCarthy would start right away.

23. Minnesota Vikings (via CLE/HOU)
Laiatu Latu, EDGE, UCLA

Latu would join Jonathan Greenard for Minnesota's new-look pass rush on defense. He had the best tape of any defensive player in the class and can become a double-digit sack artist in the NFL. After all, he had 23.5 of them over the past two seasons at UCLA. Medical concerns over a prior neck injury (while at Washington in 2020) would be the only reason he slides to this slot.

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He has Byron Murphy going 11, Penix 13 and Nix 19 to the Rams.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2024/insider/story/_/id/40006988/2024-nfl-mock-draft-field-yates-first-round-32-picks-final-predictions

Make it Chop over Latu and I’m all in.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

ESPN. Yates final Mock:

Projected trade: Minnesota can't wait any longer
Vikings get: No. 8
Falcons get: No. 11, No. 129 and a 2025 third-rounder

This is a smaller move up the board than we've discussed frequently during the pre-draft process -- Minnesota jumping into the Nos. 3-5 range -- but the Vikings can slide up just three spots at a much less prohibitive cost to snag a quarterback here based on the way the board is coming together.

8. Minnesota Vikings (via mock trade with ATL)
J.J. McCarthy, QB, Michigan

McCarthy would be in an excellent situation with Minnesota's supporting cast, and the Vikings would also preserve their No. 23 pick by moving to only No. 8 to get him. McCarthy has the high-end accuracy to get the ball to Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison, as well as the mobility to pick up yards on the ground. And I know Minnesota has Sam Darnold, but I believe McCarthy would start right away.

23. Minnesota Vikings (via CLE/HOU)
Laiatu Latu, EDGE, UCLA

Latu would join Jonathan Greenard for Minnesota's new-look pass rush on defense. He had the best tape of any defensive player in the class and can become a double-digit sack artist in the NFL. After all, he had 23.5 of them over the past two seasons at UCLA. Medical concerns over a prior neck injury (while at Washington in 2020) would be the only reason he slides to this slot.

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He has Byron Murphy going 11, Penix 13 and Nix 19 to the Rams.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2024/insider/story/_/id/40006988/2024-nfl-mock-draft-field-yates-first-round-32-picks-final-predictions

Make it Chop over Latu and I’m all in.

26. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Chop Robinson, EDGE, Penn State

With two notable needs to fill -- along the interior offensive line and on the edge -- Tampa Bay could check one off quickly with Robinson. I'm high on him, ranking him 19th on my final board. He had only four sacks during his final college season, but his first-step quickness is outstanding. And there are several people around the league who think Robinson could hear his name called much sooner that this based on that potential and upside.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Strange draft, not hoping for any particular player. Do hope to preserve draft capital. Someone needs to tell Kwesi to relax in words he understands, like letting the draft evolve organically.

There are 3-5 CBs, get one at #23.

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ORIGINAL: Dave Odle

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Strange draft, not hoping for any particular player. Do hope to preserve draft capital. Someone needs to tell Kwesi to relax in words he understands, like letting the draft evolve organically.

There are 3-5 CBs, get one at #23.

Do you have a preference at QB? What are you thinking, Bill?

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young
WE have two picks today..
Then nothing? Until the 4th round…
People saying he can fix this team, or defending KAM and his management “ style” are not all that bright.
We are trying to fix a 7-10 team with one valid Starting QB and multiple holes on the DL , garbage at center, and other positions with 9 picks..
7 of which are 4-7 th round players who will be picked fron the dumpster behind Pizza King…in Detroit.
Total dysfunctional management, yet thousands of fans are “ hyped” about the possibility of a breakout season in 2024.
What koolaid are those people drinking?
KAM is so far in over his head, he needs a 20 foot extention ladder to get his head out of the dumpster that is on fire…
This is gonna be worse than his first draft.

No Free Agents?

you think that our current free agents and practice squad and IR player can magically transform a dumpster fire into a tailgating at the Super Bowl parking lot grill?

JFC..

Define stupid. Open your mouth again… on anything.

Definition of stupid is when you ignore the work done in FA period and pretend a team is only built thru the draft......

You need to check you attitude into a local mental suite dude.

We got some decent second tier FAs. Maybe both of the defensive guys together will make-up for what Hunter gave us last year - IF they stay healthy. Aaron Jones is a legit upgrade, but not a difference maker.

Did anyone go into Free Agency hoping we'd sign Jonathan Greenard and Andrew Van Ginkel? How many people even knew who they were last year?

This wasn't the momentous Free Agent coup you keep making it out to be.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Dave Odle

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Strange draft, not hoping for any particular player. Do hope to preserve draft capital. Someone needs to tell Kwesi to relax in words he understands, like letting the draft evolve organically.

There are 3-5 CBs, get one at #23.

Do you have a preference at QB? What are you thinking, Bill?

No, but am concerned about what these QBs are worth.

Maye. I think he's pretty unflappable, one of the things that go into having 'It'. 11, 23, and change.
McCarthy. He's done some stuff already, just not much of it. No glaring issues. 11 and change.
Penix. Great arm. Concerns about pocket presence and injuries. 23 and change.
Nix. Gimmicky. An SEC failure. Stats-smats. Pass for Rattler except we don't have a second rounder.

We need draft picks. No 2nd last year. No 2nd and 3rd this year. No 2nd next year. In a few years that is going to show as a huge void unless they draft great. Free agency just isn't going to cover the omissions and lapses. The money didn't go far this year. A couple of guys who haven't played full seasons, some injured guys, and an ok RB.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Dave Odle

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Strange draft, not hoping for any particular player. Do hope to preserve draft capital. Someone needs to tell Kwesi to relax in words he understands, like letting the draft evolve organically.

There are 3-5 CBs, get one at #23.

Do you have a preference at QB? What are you thinking, Bill?

No, but am concerned about what these QBs are worth.

Maye. I think he's pretty unflappable, one of the things that go into having 'It'. 11, 23, and change.
McCarthy. He's done some stuff already, just not much of it. No glaring issues. 11 and change.
Penix. Great arm. Concerns about pocket presence and injuries. 23 and change.
Nix. Gimmicky. An SEC failure. Stats-smats. Pass for Rattler except we don't have a second rounder.

We need draft picks. No 2nd last year. No 2nd and 3rd this year. No 2nd next year. In a few years that is going to show as a huge void unless they draft great. Free agency just isn't going to cover the omissions and lapses. The money didn't go far this year. A couple of guys who haven't played full seasons, some injured guys, and an ok RB.

I'm kind of the opposite. Kwesi keeps trading down for more picks, yet diminishing returns. 10 bad picks isn't preferable to 6 bad picks...

I'm ready to see him consolidate picks to trade up. Maybe he can get an impact player that way.

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ORIGINAL: marty

I wonder if the Vikings could get 2 2nd rounders back for pick #23, 1 2nd this year, and one 2nd rounder next year ?

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ORIGINAL: marty

I wonder if the Vikings could get 2 2nd rounders back for pick #23, 1 2nd this year, and one 2nd rounder next year ?

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: marty

I wonder if the Vikings could get 2 2nd rounders back for pick #23, 1 2nd this year, and one 2nd rounder next year ?

Why would you "undo" the trade?

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ORIGINAL: marty

I am saying the draft doesn't fall the way we want it to, so the Vikings don't use #23 to trade up.

You trade back to once again have a 2nd this year, and regain a 2nd next year (maybe one that will be higher than Minnesota's pick), and then you once again have a 2nd next year, which might be used for ammo to move up next year, if need be.

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ORIGINAL: marty
I am saying the draft doesn't fall the way we want it to, so the Vikings don't use #23 to trade up.
You trade back to once again have a 2nd this year, and regain a 2nd next year (maybe one that will be higher than Minnesota's pick), and then you once again have a 2nd next year, which might be used for ammo to move up next year, if need be.