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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I came to talk about football. You came to talk about yourself.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: IndVike

If ya'all are serious about wanting more people "back" and posting, you need to be serious about not being a jerk to someone who (heaven forbid) has a different opinion than yours.

I could quote a famous poster here..."I come in to talk about football, and you come in to talk about me..."

Sincerely,

A long time lurker

Brad's timing for showing up to post is the problem. Not the content.

Imagine that? I come into the forums this morning and people are talking about me. What a surprise. It makes my statement from way back when, more relevant.
100% to IndVike for pointing that out.

The irony.

The irony is you creating a fake new poster who quotes yourself so you can come in and act surprised.

Because it surprises nobody else.

Nope. Never created a fake poster. No need for it. You should be ashamed of yourself for even thinking it.

Just because guys like yourself have nothing to do all day, doesn't mean the rest of us don't. I don't care enough to go out and create a fake account. I put my name on things and own it.

I am nothing more than a casual observer at this point. I periodically come around to hear the latest chatter.

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ORIGINAL: ebergste

So about the Jets. What is the concern level after last week on our defense? I can't decide if that was "we're up by 28 so foot off the pedal, play some bend not break", which then got out of hand. Or was that a solid QB figuring out some weaknesses in our scheme and exposing them? I keep going back and forth. I still don't think our DB's are that amazing and can be exposed. ARoge for all his flaws is a pretty bright fellow in terms of QB ing. So if its scheme weakness can he exploit it? I do like that fact that he is now a statue. Should be able to get some pressure but we really didn't last week. Seems like we had lots of "pressures' but often Love was standing back there for a long time with nobody around him.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: ebergste

So about the Jets. What is the concern level after last week on our defense? I can't decide if that was "we're up by 28 so foot off the pedal, play some bend not break", which then got out of hand. Or was that a solid QB figuring out some weaknesses in our scheme and exposing them? I keep going back and forth. I still don't think our DB's are that amazing and can be exposed. ARoge for all his flaws is a pretty bright fellow in terms of QB ing. So if its scheme weakness can he exploit it? I do like that fact that he is now a statue. Should be able to get some pressure but we really didn't last week. Seems like we had lots of "pressures' but often Love was standing back there for a long time with nobody around him.

Early in the game last week we were coming after Love and getting to him. We didn't get but 1 sack but we did pressure him often especially early. Later in the game I will say that they weren't Biitzing as much and getting in his grill. Just trying (and in many cases failing) to keep things in front of them. So we weren't tying to apply as much pressure. Packers played well and took advantage there.

Jets have Rodgers. and no matter how much pressure you throw at him, he'll probably have a plan to beat it. But he is less mobile now and actually that was one of his strengths in the before time. He could step out of the pocket and keep a play alive long enough for one of his receives to get open. Zimmer's plan to beat him was more just keep in in the pocket and he'll make mistake....worked earlier on too.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

I wouldn’t rush Hock back.

But..if he’s good to go let’s go…

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From CBS Sports: Rodgers has completed 23 of his 38 attempts against the blitz (60.5%, 20th in NFL) for 207 yards and two touchdowns for a 92.8 passer rating (17th in the NFL) this season. Rodgers has averaged 5.4 yards per pass attempt when blitzed, the eight-fewest in the NFL.

He's gotten older and the defenses have stayed the same age. That's s quasi-reference to Wooderson from Dazed and Confused. You all probably knew that.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

This is the game where so much pressure and so many sacks relegate him to being an old man who should have retired. Dial it up to the extreme the first time they get the ball. Yeah, that's mostly an emotionally driven gameplan but after being battered in the 1st quarter he needs to think he should have hung 'em up a while ago. Then we get the flat, going-through-the-motions Rodgers and it's game over.

We should get Barr on the roster and lined up on the edge for the opening play, just for old times sake.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Sheil Kapadia@SheilKapadia
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Vikings defense 1st in defensive DVOA, and it's not close. Difference between them and No. 2 is roughly the same as the difference between No. 2 and No. 16.

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I mean, I don't know who Kapadia is ...

DVOA uses a lot of values but it still just a metric and metrics are never comprehensive or all-encompassing ...

but thats pretty dramatic.

How much is BFlo's scheme / def play calling and how much is player talent / playmaking?

I mean, yes its absolutely a combination of the two.

It sure seems like the mental / anticipatory part of it is causing a lot of the havoc.

which worries me if we have a new DC next year.

I know, its incredibly premature to worry about that now.

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This is the game where so much pressure and so many sacks relegate him to being an old man who should have retired. Dial it up to the extreme the first time they get the ball. Yeah, that's mostly an emotionally driven gameplan but after being battered in the 1st quarter he needs to think he should have hung 'em up a while ago. Then we get the flat, going-through-the-motions Rodgers and it's game over.

We should get Barr on the roster and lined up on the edge for the opening play, just for old times sake.

LOL.

It may be emotionally driven but certainly, yeah this guy's resilience and bounce-back are going to be short-lived. Go in hot.

Its one thing to get sacked, another to not ever be able to swing a golf club again.

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ORIGINAL: marty

Sometimes a trend gets too strong, and then you have a game that goes the other way.

The Vikings have been starting out very well, I don't think they have had a slow start yet.

This could be the week the Vikings start out slow, and with the Jets having a tough defense, the Jets carry a 14-0 halftime lead. The Vikings could be in trouble, we might be looking at zero sacks.

But I think the Vikings will come back, and Darnold gets his 1st come from behind victory.

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ORIGINAL: IndVike

If ya'all are serious about wanting more people "back" and posting, you need to be serious about not being a jerk to someone who (heaven forbid) has a different opinion than yours.

I could quote a famous poster here..."I come in to talk about football, and you come in to talk about me..."

Sincerely,

A long time lurker

Brad's timing for showing up to post is the problem. Not the content.

Imagine that? I come into the forums this morning and people are talking about me. What a surprise. It makes my statement from way back when, more relevant.
100% to IndVike for pointing that out.

The irony.

The irony is you creating a fake new poster who quotes yourself so you can come in and act surprised.

Because it surprises nobody else.

Nope. Never created a fake poster. No need for it. You should be ashamed of yourself for even thinking it.

Just because guys like yourself have nothing to do all day, doesn't mean the rest of us don't. I don't care enough to go out and create a fake account. I put my name on things and own it.

I am nothing more than a casual observer at this point. I periodically come around to hear the latest chatter.

Right. Now I'm really convinced!

Same focus, same tactics. Only you would spend time dreaming up first time posters to come in and quote you.

As far as having nothing to do all day ...

I sure don't have time or interest in going around and needling the fanbases of a teams I care little about.

Much less to double-down as different posters!

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: IndVike

If ya'all are serious about wanting more people "back" and posting, you need to be serious about not being a jerk to someone who (heaven forbid) has a different opinion than yours.

I could quote a famous poster here..."I come in to talk about football, and you come in to talk about me..."

Sincerely,

A long time lurker

Brad's timing for showing up to post is the problem. Not the content.

Imagine that? I come into the forums this morning and people are talking about me. What a surprise. It makes my statement from way back when, more relevant.
100% to IndVike for pointing that out.

The irony.

The irony is you creating a fake new poster who quotes yourself so you can come in and act surprised.

Because it surprises nobody else.

Nope. Never created a fake poster. No need for it. You should be ashamed of yourself for even thinking it.

Just because guys like yourself have nothing to do all day, doesn't mean the rest of us don't. I don't care enough to go out and create a fake account. I put my name on things and own it.

I am nothing more than a casual observer at this point. I periodically come around to hear the latest chatter.

Right. Now I'm really convinced!

Same focus, same tactics. Only you would spend time dreaming up first time posters to come in and quote you.

As far as having nothing to do all day ...

I sure don't have time or interest in going around and needling the fanbases of a teams I care little about.

Much less to double-down as different posters!

First off, I could really care less what you think. If you want me to take credit for a new account, I will. It isn't me, but if it makes you feel better so be it.

As Lars said, I'd prefer to keep the forum about the Vikings.