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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

QB. JJM. Darnold won't be back.

What's left of the 2020-2023 drafts:
2020 - Jefferson, Brandel, Metellus
2021 - Darrisaw, Patrick Jones, Bynum
2022 - Chandler
2023 - Addison, Blackmon
2024 - TBD

A pair of good WRs, backup OL, gadget DB, LT returning from injury, backup DE/Edge, safety, backup to the backup RB, returning injured CB.
As far as starters: WR, WR, LT (when recovered from injury), S (if he is resigned), quasi-starting gadget DB

It's really, really bad.

For 2024, it's about JJM. They also used almost an entire draft of future picks to create a pick then move up to draft Turner. He has some amazing athleticism but can't get playing time. So be bold and trade Turner, Van Ginkle, or Greenard so that talent isn't rotting on the bench. 2024 also produced a kicker. And some depth that of course might pan out but chances are they will be off the team in 2-3 years.

Bottomline: I don't think they can free agency their way out of the draft mess.

This is it for 2025, hard to believe we have so few draft picks. I'd guess we'll look at trading out of late in the 1st round, to pick up an extra pick or 2, but who the hell knows.

Round 1 - 1 pick
Round 5 - 2 picks
1 3rd round compensatory picks

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Minnesota is now the only team in NFL history to win 14 games in the regular season, then lose in the Wild Card Playoff round. It’s a horrible record to own and we might need to wait a long time for it to be broken.

We know this because the only 13-win team to lose in the Wild Card Round is also the Minnesota Vikings. This mark was set in 2022 with Kirk Cousins, when the Vikings lost to the Giants on an afternoon Daniel Jones played some of the best football of his career.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

The front office doles out high contracts as if we've actually accomplished something.

2026
JJ $39M
O'Neill $23M
Darrisaw $23M
Greenard $22M
Hockenson $21M

Void $13M
Water for Meaningless Celebrations $.000001M

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Going in I thought we'd win. I won't rehash all the obvious stuff that's been said. As much as I DID think we'd win, I completely changed my mind after 1 series by each team. Rams 7 plays 70 yards again traffic cones. Our first play was a shitty run call that netted, maybe, a yard. I know it was over when that punt left his foot.

We didn't even come out swinging.

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ORIGINAL: beo

Disappeared in playoff games (it happens, Moss in 41-0)... but it's troubling.

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Going in I thought we'd win. I won't rehash all the obvious stuff that's been said. As much as I DID think we'd win, I completely changed my mind after 1 series by each team. Rams 7 plays 70 yards again traffic cones. Our first play was a shitty run call that netted, maybe, a yard. I know it was over when that punt left his foot.

We didn't even come out swinging.

The 4th and 1 offsides really pissed me off. We're the only ones to continually fall for that bullshit!

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: beo

Disappeared in playoff games (it happens, Moss in 41-0)... but it's troubling.

Its a good point. Moss had a couple pretty big Playoff games early in his career, but was mostly held in check throughout his career.

15 Games. 8-7 Record. 112 Targets, 54 Receptions (48.2%), 977 Yards, 10 TDs.

He has three career 100+ yard games (Game 3: 127, Game 4: 188, Game 5: 121).

He did not break 70 yards in any of his final 10 Playoff Games.

7 TDs in his first 5 Playoff Games. 3 TDs in his final 10.

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

I think most on here have the same basic views on our QB situation so I'll ask this:

JJM given the #1 chance it most likely a given.

If both would accept a 1 year, 10 mill backup role, do you offer that to SD or DJ's?

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

I think most on here have the same basic views on our QB situation so I'll ask this:

JJM given the #1 chance it most likely a given.

If both would accept a 1 year, 10 mill backup role, do you offer that to SD or DJ's?

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

I think most on here have the same basic views on our QB situation so I'll ask this:

JJM given the #1 chance it most likely a given.

If both would accept a 1 year, 10 mill backup role, do you offer that to SD or DJ's?

Probably DJ.

I would rather have a Joe Milton type though as our money will be needed to build the roster.

Phil Mackey mentioned that half the NFL rosters have QBs paid over 40 million.
https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Athletic Summation in one Play Call:

Trailing by 18 points and facing a third-and-8 from the Rams’ 37-yard line, Minnesota coach Kevin O’Connell drew up a play he believed had touchdown potential. Two swift receivers, All-Pro Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison, would be running deep routes on the right side of the field. At the very least Darnold, who had already taken six sacks, needed to avoid losing yards; that way, O’Connell could go for it on fourth down or send on the field-goal team to try to make it a two-possession game.

“Look for Justin,” O’Connell told his quarterback over the headset. “Then look for Jordan. If you don’t like what you see, throw it out of bounds.”

We can’t be sure exactly what Darnold saw — Ghosts? Millions of dollars evaporating before his eyes? — but it wasn’t Addison running free. The second-year wideout was streaking down the sideline after feigning an out route, a move that turned around rookie safety Kamren Kinchens and left him trailing badly. Darnold, after taking a shotgun snap, looked right, pumped once, backed up to avoid a pass rusher and drifted to his left.

After holding the ball for nearly seven seconds, Darnold finally ducked for cover as L.A. defenders Michael Hoecht and Braden Fiske plowed him to the turf at midfield, leaving his head facing the opposite end zone. Now it was fourth-and-21 and O’Connell chose to punt — on the next play and, essentially, on the season.

And just like that, the Vikings’ once bustling dream of winning the franchise’s first Super Bowl went poof in the desert night.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

I think most on here have the same basic views on our QB situation so I'll ask this:

JJM given the #1 chance it most likely a given.

If both would accept a 1 year, 10 mill backup role, do you offer that to SD or DJ's?

Probably DJ.

I would rather have a Joe Milton type though as our money will be needed to build the roster.

Phil Mackey mentioned that half the NFL rosters have QBs paid over 40 million.
https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback

You've brought him up a couple times. What would you be willing to give up for him that would make NE give up on a guy they have locked up for 1M/year for 3 more years?

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Doogie thinks the Franchise Tag is still in play for a trade.

But he thinks that by March 5th we'll know what his trade market looks like.

He also thinks Sam will still get a Geno Smith or Baker Mayfield deal. And that we shouldn't expect more than a late Day 2 pick. Maybe even a 4th.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

I think most on here have the same basic views on our QB situation so I'll ask this:

JJM given the #1 chance it most likely a given.

If both would accept a 1 year, 10 mill backup role, do you offer that to SD or DJ's?

Neither.

The average backup QB makes about $5 million. We need to get serious about the OL, DL, and DBs.