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ORIGINAL: Brad H

There was only one drive that mattered in the entire game. It was the final drive of the first half where McCarthy went 3-and-out.

This is what I've been saying about McCarthy. The 2-minute offense has become very important for NFL quarterbacks. He has very little experience running it at Michigan because he was mostly playing from ahead, with a running offense.

It was one of the main reasons I didn't like the pick of McCarthy. He strikes me as Jim Harbaugh II.

I hope he improves, but he may not. It's an art, and takes time to develop. You've got to know how to control the clock at the end of halves. Kirk Cousins did a lot of things right, but he was a terrible two-minute quarterback.

Lets also not forget, the Vikes were down 20-7 at the half.....to the Raiders.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

There was only one drive that mattered in the entire game. It was the final drive of the first half where McCarthy went 3-and-out.

This is what I've been saying about McCarthy. The 2-minute offense has become very important for NFL quarterbacks. He has very little experience running it at Michigan because he was mostly playing from ahead, with a running offense.

It was one of the main reasons I didn't like the pick of McCarthy. He strikes me as Jim Harbaugh II.

I hope he improves, but he may not. It's an art, and takes time to develop. You've got to know how to control the clock at the end of halves. Kirk Cousins did a lot of things right, but he was a terrible two-minute quarterback.

Lets also not forget, the Vikes were down 20-7 at the half.....to the Raiders.

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

That post is a non-starter to begin with (Sorry, Brad).


It's what I was complaining about up thread. It WAS NOT a "2 minute drill". KOC didn't allow it. I deleted the recording but going off memory.

50 seconds with all 3 TO's at about our own 35-40 and we basically ran the clock out. We didn't take a knee but there was no urgency at all. I mentioned it was an opportunity lost to get him some experience there. Nothing to lose and we just didn't care.

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

There was only one drive that mattered in the entire game. It was the final drive of the first half where McCarthy went 3-and-out.

This is what I've been saying about McCarthy. The 2-minute offense has become very important for NFL quarterbacks. He has very little experience running it at Michigan because he was mostly playing from ahead, with a running offense.

It was one of the main reasons I didn't like the pick of McCarthy. He strikes me as Jim Harbaugh II.

I hope he improves, but he may not. It's an art, and takes time to develop. You've got to know how to control the clock at the end of halves. Kirk Cousins did a lot of things right, but he was a terrible two-minute quarterback.

Lets also not forget, the Vikes were down 20-7 at the half.....to the Raiders.

If you watched a 21 year old kid in his first NFL action do what JJ did on Saturday and find zero positives...

you don't want to find a positive.

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

There was only one drive that mattered in the entire game. It was the final drive of the first half where McCarthy went 3-and-out.

This is what I've been saying about McCarthy. The 2-minute offense has become very important for NFL quarterbacks. He has very little experience running it at Michigan because he was mostly playing from ahead, with a running offense.

It was one of the main reasons I didn't like the pick of McCarthy. He strikes me as Jim Harbaugh II.

I hope he improves, but he may not. It's an art, and takes time to develop. You've got to know how to control the clock at the end of halves. Kirk Cousins did a lot of things right, but he was a terrible two-minute quarterback.

Lets also not forget, the Vikes were down 20-7 at the half.....to the Raiders.

If you watched a 21 year old kid in his first NFL action do what JJ did on Saturday and find zero positives...

you don't want to find a positive.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

There was only one drive that mattered in the entire game. It was the final drive of the first half where McCarthy went 3-and-out.

This is what I've been saying about McCarthy. The 2-minute offense has become very important for NFL quarterbacks. He has very little experience running it at Michigan because he was mostly playing from ahead, with a running offense.

It was one of the main reasons I didn't like the pick of McCarthy. He strikes me as Jim Harbaugh II.

I hope he improves, but he may not. It's an art, and takes time to develop. You've got to know how to control the clock at the end of halves. Kirk Cousins did a lot of things right, but he was a terrible two-minute quarterback.

Lets also not forget, the Vikes were down 20-7 at the half.....to the Raiders.

If you watched a 21 year old kid in his first NFL action do what JJ did on Saturday and find zero positives...

you don't want to find a positive.

To be fair he said there was only one drive that mattered in the whole game. One would think he was pretty focused while watching that drive. The important two-minute drive. That didn't exist.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

There was only one drive that mattered in the entire game. It was the final drive of the first half where McCarthy went 3-and-out.

This is what I've been saying about McCarthy. The 2-minute offense has become very important for NFL quarterbacks. He has very little experience running it at Michigan because he was mostly playing from ahead, with a running offense.

It was one of the main reasons I didn't like the pick of McCarthy. He strikes me as Jim Harbaugh II.

I hope he improves, but he may not. It's an art, and takes time to develop. You've got to know how to control the clock at the end of halves. Kirk Cousins did a lot of things right, but he was a terrible two-minute quarterback.

Lets also not forget, the Vikes were down 20-7 at the half.....to the Raiders.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

That post is a non-starter to begin with (Sorry, Brad).


It's what I was complaining about up thread. It WAS NOT a "2 minute drill". KOC didn't allow it. I deleted the recording but going off memory.

50 seconds with all 3 TO's at about our own 35-40 and we basically ran the clock out. We didn't take a knee but there was no urgency at all. I mentioned it was an opportunity lost to get him some experience there. Nothing to lose and we just didn't care.

Again, perhaps a two-minute drill wasn't part of the script for McCarthy.

And perhaps they needed to evaluate certain sets and players. Players that would be sitting in the second half.

Or yes they "didn't care" and just wanted to get to halftime injury free.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

There was only one drive that mattered in the entire game. It was the final drive of the first half where McCarthy went 3-and-out.

This is what I've been saying about McCarthy. The 2-minute offense has become very important for NFL quarterbacks. He has very little experience running it at Michigan because he was mostly playing from ahead, with a running offense.

It was one of the main reasons I didn't like the pick of McCarthy. He strikes me as Jim Harbaugh II.

I hope he improves, but he may not. It's an art, and takes time to develop. You've got to know how to control the clock at the end of halves. Kirk Cousins did a lot of things right, but he was a terrible two-minute quarterback.

Lets also not forget, the Vikes were down 20-7 at the half.....to the Raiders.

If you watched a 21 year old kid in his first NFL action do what JJ did on Saturday and find zero positives...

you don't want to find a positive.

Brad is back to his "the only stats that matter are the ones in the last two minutes of a half" nonsense. The Vikings scored 24 points and McCarthy engineered 21 of them. I guess Hall is the real gem because he got that FG in the last two minutes.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

After seeing the highlights JJ impressed. Darnold better produce all your bc he’s got a young gin slinger nipping at his heals.


Exciting times.

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

There was only one drive that mattered in the entire game. It was the final drive of the first half where McCarthy went 3-and-out.

This is what I've been saying about McCarthy. The 2-minute offense has become very important for NFL quarterbacks. He has very little experience running it at Michigan because he was mostly playing from ahead, with a running offense.

It was one of the main reasons I didn't like the pick of McCarthy. He strikes me as Jim Harbaugh II.

I hope he improves, but he may not. It's an art, and takes time to develop. You've got to know how to control the clock at the end of halves. Kirk Cousins did a lot of things right, but he was a terrible two-minute quarterback.

Lets also not forget, the Vikes were down 20-7 at the half.....to the Raiders.

If you watched a 21 year old kid in his first NFL action do what JJ did on Saturday and find zero positives...

you don't want to find a positive.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

There was only one drive that mattered in the entire game. It was the final drive of the first half where McCarthy went 3-and-out.

This is what I've been saying about McCarthy. The 2-minute offense has become very important for NFL quarterbacks. He has very little experience running it at Michigan because he was mostly playing from ahead, with a running offense.

It was one of the main reasons I didn't like the pick of McCarthy. He strikes me as Jim Harbaugh II.

I hope he improves, but he may not. It's an art, and takes time to develop. You've got to know how to control the clock at the end of halves. Kirk Cousins did a lot of things right, but he was a terrible two-minute quarterback.

Lets also not forget, the Vikes were down 20-7 at the half.....to the Raiders.

If you watched a 21 year old kid in his first NFL action do what JJ did on Saturday and find zero positives...

you don't want to find a positive.

Brad is back to his "the only stats that matter are the ones in the last two minutes of a half" nonsense. The Vikings scored 24 points and McCarthy engineered 21 of them. I guess Hall is the real gem because he got that FG in the last two minutes.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

There was only one drive that mattered in the entire game. It was the final drive of the first half where McCarthy went 3-and-out.

This is what I've been saying about McCarthy. The 2-minute offense has become very important for NFL quarterbacks. He has very little experience running it at Michigan because he was mostly playing from ahead, with a running offense.

It was one of the main reasons I didn't like the pick of McCarthy. He strikes me as Jim Harbaugh II.

I hope he improves, but he may not. It's an art, and takes time to develop. You've got to know how to control the clock at the end of halves. Kirk Cousins did a lot of things right, but he was a terrible two-minute quarterback.

Lets also not forget, the Vikes were down 20-7 at the half.....to the Raiders.

If you watched a 21 year old kid in his first NFL action do what JJ did on Saturday and find zero positives...

you don't want to find a positive.

Brad is back to his "the only stats that matter are the ones in the last two minutes of a half" nonsense. The Vikings scored 24 points and McCarthy engineered 21 of them. I guess Hall is the real gem because he got that FG in the last two minutes.

I could care less what a guy does in preseason game #1 against third stringers. The only thing that mattered for McCarthy was how he handled a two-minute drill. Down 20-7 seems like it would have been a great opportunity for experience. Whether it's him or a coaching decision to run out the clock is irrelevant. It was a missed opportunity for growth.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

There was only one drive that mattered in the entire game. It was the final drive of the first half where McCarthy went 3-and-out.

This is what I've been saying about McCarthy. The 2-minute offense has become very important for NFL quarterbacks. He has very little experience running it at Michigan because he was mostly playing from ahead, with a running offense.

It was one of the main reasons I didn't like the pick of McCarthy. He strikes me as Jim Harbaugh II.

I hope he improves, but he may not. It's an art, and takes time to develop. You've got to know how to control the clock at the end of halves. Kirk Cousins did a lot of things right, but he was a terrible two-minute quarterback.

Lets also not forget, the Vikes were down 20-7 at the half.....to the Raiders.

If you watched a 21 year old kid in his first NFL action do what JJ did on Saturday and find zero positives...

you don't want to find a positive.

Brad is just trying to get a rise out of us. Pay no attention to him. He's not the droid we're looking for. You can go about your business. Move along.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

There was only one drive that mattered in the entire game. It was the final drive of the first half where McCarthy went 3-and-out.

This is what I've been saying about McCarthy. The 2-minute offense has become very important for NFL quarterbacks. He has very little experience running it at Michigan because he was mostly playing from ahead, with a running offense.

It was one of the main reasons I didn't like the pick of McCarthy. He strikes me as Jim Harbaugh II.

I hope he improves, but he may not. It's an art, and takes time to develop. You've got to know how to control the clock at the end of halves. Kirk Cousins did a lot of things right, but he was a terrible two-minute quarterback.

Lets also not forget, the Vikes were down 20-7 at the half.....to the Raiders.

If you watched a 21 year old kid in his first NFL action do what JJ did on Saturday and find zero positives...

you don't want to find a positive.

Brad is just trying to get a rise out of us. Pay no attention to him. He's not the droid we're looking for. You can go about your business. Move along.

Brad has shown, imho, a bias against any player that didn't come out of the now nonexistent Pac 10. JJ Played for a big10 team. Thus in Brad's mind. He sucks.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

There was only one drive that mattered in the entire game. It was the final drive of the first half where McCarthy went 3-and-out.

This is what I've been saying about McCarthy. The 2-minute offense has become very important for NFL quarterbacks. He has very little experience running it at Michigan because he was mostly playing from ahead, with a running offense.

It was one of the main reasons I didn't like the pick of McCarthy. He strikes me as Jim Harbaugh II.

I hope he improves, but he may not. It's an art, and takes time to develop. You've got to know how to control the clock at the end of halves. Kirk Cousins did a lot of things right, but he was a terrible two-minute quarterback.

Lets also not forget, the Vikes were down 20-7 at the half.....to the Raiders.

If you watched a 21 year old kid in his first NFL action do what JJ did on Saturday and find zero positives...

you don't want to find a positive.

Brad is back to his "the only stats that matter are the ones in the last two minutes of a half" nonsense. The Vikings scored 24 points and McCarthy engineered 21 of them. I guess Hall is the real gem because he got that FG in the last two minutes.

I could care less what a guy does in preseason game #1 against third stringers. The only thing that mattered for McCarthy was how he handled a two-minute drill. Down 20-7 seems like it would have been a great opportunity for experience. Whether it's him or a coaching decision to run out the clock is irrelevant. It was a missed opportunity for growth.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

There was only one drive that mattered in the entire game. It was the final drive of the first half where McCarthy went 3-and-out.

This is what I've been saying about McCarthy. The 2-minute offense has become very important for NFL quarterbacks. He has very little experience running it at Michigan because he was mostly playing from ahead, with a running offense.

It was one of the main reasons I didn't like the pick of McCarthy. He strikes me as Jim Harbaugh II.

I hope he improves, but he may not. It's an art, and takes time to develop. You've got to know how to control the clock at the end of halves. Kirk Cousins did a lot of things right, but he was a terrible two-minute quarterback.

Lets also not forget, the Vikes were down 20-7 at the half.....to the Raiders.

If you watched a 21 year old kid in his first NFL action do what JJ did on Saturday and find zero positives...

you don't want to find a positive.

Brad is back to his "the only stats that matter are the ones in the last two minutes of a half" nonsense. The Vikings scored 24 points and McCarthy engineered 21 of them. I guess Hall is the real gem because he got that FG in the last two minutes.

I could care less what a guy does in preseason game #1 against third stringers. The only thing that mattered for McCarthy was how he handled a two-minute drill. Down 20-7 seems like it would have been a great opportunity for experience. Whether it's him or a coaching decision to run out the clock is irrelevant. It was a missed opportunity for growth.

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ORIGINAL: Mark C. Johnson

If all you took away from the game was the result of the final two minutes of the first half, I'm glad you're not a scout for the team.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

There was only one drive that mattered in the entire game. It was the final drive of the first half where McCarthy went 3-and-out.

This is what I've been saying about McCarthy. The 2-minute offense has become very important for NFL quarterbacks. He has very little experience running it at Michigan because he was mostly playing from ahead, with a running offense.

It was one of the main reasons I didn't like the pick of McCarthy. He strikes me as Jim Harbaugh II.

I hope he improves, but he may not. It's an art, and takes time to develop. You've got to know how to control the clock at the end of halves. Kirk Cousins did a lot of things right, but he was a terrible two-minute quarterback.

Lets also not forget, the Vikes were down 20-7 at the half.....to the Raiders.

If you watched a 21 year old kid in his first NFL action do what JJ did on Saturday and find zero positives...

you don't want to find a positive.

Brad is back to his "the only stats that matter are the ones in the last two minutes of a half" nonsense. The Vikings scored 24 points and McCarthy engineered 21 of them. I guess Hall is the real gem because he got that FG in the last two minutes.

I could care less what a guy does in preseason game #1 against third stringers. The only thing that mattered for McCarthy was how he handled a two-minute drill. Down 20-7 seems like it would have been a great opportunity for experience. Whether it's him or a coaching decision to run out the clock is irrelevant. It was a missed opportunity for growth.

Does it matter more that he came from Michigan and the Big 10?

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ORIGINAL: Mark C. Johnson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

There was only one drive that mattered in the entire game. It was the final drive of the first half where McCarthy went 3-and-out.

This is what I've been saying about McCarthy. The 2-minute offense has become very important for NFL quarterbacks. He has very little experience running it at Michigan because he was mostly playing from ahead, with a running offense.

It was one of the main reasons I didn't like the pick of McCarthy. He strikes me as Jim Harbaugh II.

I hope he improves, but he may not. It's an art, and takes time to develop. You've got to know how to control the clock at the end of halves. Kirk Cousins did a lot of things right, but he was a terrible two-minute quarterback.

Lets also not forget, the Vikes were down 20-7 at the half.....to the Raiders.

If you watched a 21 year old kid in his first NFL action do what JJ did on Saturday and find zero positives...

you don't want to find a positive.

Brad is back to his "the only stats that matter are the ones in the last two minutes of a half" nonsense. The Vikings scored 24 points and McCarthy engineered 21 of them. I guess Hall is the real gem because he got that FG in the last two minutes.

I could care less what a guy does in preseason game #1 against third stringers. The only thing that mattered for McCarthy was how he handled a two-minute drill. Down 20-7 seems like it would have been a great opportunity for experience. Whether it's him or a coaching decision to run out the clock is irrelevant. It was a missed opportunity for growth.

The ONLY thing that mattered was the last two minutes of the half? That's just silly. If you watched the game, the first touchdown pass was absolutely beautiful. A perfectly thrown ball. I watched the ENTIRE game and came away impressed by his poise and leadership on the field. He made some mistakes, but that's expected. Comparing Darnold to McCarthy in that game, I'd say what sort of stood out to me a bit was that Darnold seemed more "intentional" with his throws while McCarthy seemed more "natural" or fluid in his throws. In fairness to Darnold, he only played one series. If all you took away from the game was the result of the final two minutes of the first half, I'm glad you're not a scout for the team.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark C. Johnson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

There was only one drive that mattered in the entire game. It was the final drive of the first half where McCarthy went 3-and-out.

This is what I've been saying about McCarthy. The 2-minute offense has become very important for NFL quarterbacks. He has very little experience running it at Michigan because he was mostly playing from ahead, with a running offense.

It was one of the main reasons I didn't like the pick of McCarthy. He strikes me as Jim Harbaugh II.

I hope he improves, but he may not. It's an art, and takes time to develop. You've got to know how to control the clock at the end of halves. Kirk Cousins did a lot of things right, but he was a terrible two-minute quarterback.

Lets also not forget, the Vikes were down 20-7 at the half.....to the Raiders.

If you watched a 21 year old kid in his first NFL action do what JJ did on Saturday and find zero positives...

you don't want to find a positive.

Brad is back to his "the only stats that matter are the ones in the last two minutes of a half" nonsense. The Vikings scored 24 points and McCarthy engineered 21 of them. I guess Hall is the real gem because he got that FG in the last two minutes.

I could care less what a guy does in preseason game #1 against third stringers. The only thing that mattered for McCarthy was how he handled a two-minute drill. Down 20-7 seems like it would have been a great opportunity for experience. Whether it's him or a coaching decision to run out the clock is irrelevant. It was a missed opportunity for growth.

The ONLY thing that mattered was the last two minutes of the half? That's just silly. If you watched the game, the first touchdown pass was absolutely beautiful. A perfectly thrown ball. I watched the ENTIRE game and came away impressed by his poise and leadership on the field. He made some mistakes, but that's expected. Comparing Darnold to McCarthy in that game, I'd say what sort of stood out to me a bit was that Darnold seemed more "intentional" with his throws while McCarthy seemed more "natural" or fluid in his throws. In fairness to Darnold, he only played one series. If all you took away from the game was the result of the final two minutes of the first half, I'm glad you're not a scout for the team.

The two-minute drill would have been one minute and five seconds (1:05) because the Raiders had the ball for 46 seconds, and the blocked FG was the play prior.

Nonetheless, all told the infamous, critical, and non-existent two-minute drill consisted of 4 plays for the Vikings on offense:
- The blocked FG.
- Three passes, in which JJ was 2-3 for 9 yards.

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ORIGINAL: Mark C. Johnson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

There was only one drive that mattered in the entire game. It was the final drive of the first half where McCarthy went 3-and-out.

This is what I've been saying about McCarthy. The 2-minute offense has become very important for NFL quarterbacks. He has very little experience running it at Michigan because he was mostly playing from ahead, with a running offense.

It was one of the main reasons I didn't like the pick of McCarthy. He strikes me as Jim Harbaugh II.

I hope he improves, but he may not. It's an art, and takes time to develop. You've got to know how to control the clock at the end of halves. Kirk Cousins did a lot of things right, but he was a terrible two-minute quarterback.

Lets also not forget, the Vikes were down 20-7 at the half.....to the Raiders.

If you watched a 21 year old kid in his first NFL action do what JJ did on Saturday and find zero positives...

you don't want to find a positive.

Brad is back to his "the only stats that matter are the ones in the last two minutes of a half" nonsense. The Vikings scored 24 points and McCarthy engineered 21 of them. I guess Hall is the real gem because he got that FG in the last two minutes.

I could care less what a guy does in preseason game #1 against third stringers. The only thing that mattered for McCarthy was how he handled a two-minute drill. Down 20-7 seems like it would have been a great opportunity for experience. Whether it's him or a coaching decision to run out the clock is irrelevant. It was a missed opportunity for growth.

The ONLY thing that mattered was the last two minutes of the half? That's just silly. If you watched the game, the first touchdown pass was absolutely beautiful. A perfectly thrown ball. I watched the ENTIRE game and came away impressed by his poise and leadership on the field. He made some mistakes, but that's expected. Comparing Darnold to McCarthy in that game, I'd say what sort of stood out to me a bit was that Darnold seemed more "intentional" with his throws while McCarthy seemed more "natural" or fluid in his throws. In fairness to Darnold, he only played one series. If all you took away from the game was the result of the final two minutes of the first half, I'm glad you're not a scout for the team.