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RE: Timberwolves 2024/2025 Season - 4/27/2025 11:01:39 PM   
David Levine


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RE: Timberwolves 2024/2025 Season - 4/28/2025 7:59:17 AM   
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trading kat was a bad decision which i understand the ownership fiasco played a significant role. randle and donte are proving to be quite effective for the wolves. donte was a known + and randle has seemed to lack focus on defense until finch pushed the right buttons?

happy for kat, elated ant excels for the wolves, disappointed with what might’ve been (ala kg, steph, and googs:( )


Big difference being this is KAT's age 29 season already. Stephon and KG were 21 and 22 at that time. KATs promise for postseason excellence clock will have to turn up or on quickly.

It is hard to see but it is Jaden and Ant's team now if you want a KG/Steph comparison with Randle being the Googs.

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RE: Timberwolves 2024/2025 Season - 4/29/2025 10:39:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		It honestly bothers me far more than it should, that the NBA has indicated the referees made a mistake in not calling McDaniels' "trip" of Luka a foul.

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RE: Timberwolves 2024/2025 Season - 4/29/2025 11:40:52 AM   
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It honestly bothers me far more than it should, that the NBA has indicated the referees made a mistake in not calling McDaniels' "trip" of Luka a foul.

It's a foul but there are about 150 calls total in every NBA game that could be called and aren't. The NBA is the worst pro league right now when it comes to the "rules" and how games are officiated. It is consistently inconsistent.

As a Laker fan, hopefully Wolves end their season Wednesday and we get serious about re-building. Luka was a start. Now the tough one. Convincing Jeanie Buss to trade LBJ while he still has some value. And you have to get LBJ to agree also.
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RE: Timberwolves 2024/2025 Season - 4/29/2025 12:59:39 PM   
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LBJ would never agree to a trade. Unless it was to an expansion team in Vegas where he is part owner.

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RE: Timberwolves 2024/2025 Season - 4/29/2025 2:43:02 PM   
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It honestly bothers me far more than it should, that the NBA has indicated the referees made a mistake in not calling McDaniels' "trip" of Luka a foul.

It's a foul but there are about 150 calls total in every NBA game that could be called and aren't. The NBA is the worst pro league right now when it comes to the "rules" and how games are officiated. It is consistently inconsistent.

As a Laker fan, hopefully Wolves end their season Wednesday and we get serious about re-building. Luka was a start. Now the tough one. Convincing Jeanie Buss to trade LBJ while he still has some value. And you have to get LBJ to agree also.


I am not sure he is tradeable at this point similar to Kevin Durant. Hard to package too many assets for upper 30ish former cornerstones.

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RE: Timberwolves 2024/2025 Season - 4/29/2025 3:22:34 PM   
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It honestly bothers me far more than it should, that the NBA has indicated the referees made a mistake in not calling McDaniels' "trip" of Luka a foul.

It's a foul but there are about 150 calls total in every NBA game that could be called and aren't. The NBA is the worst pro league right now when it comes to the "rules" and how games are officiated. It is consistently inconsistent.

As a Laker fan, hopefully Wolves end their season Wednesday and we get serious about re-building. Luka was a start. Now the tough one. Convincing Jeanie Buss to trade LBJ while he still has some value. And you have to get LBJ to agree also.


That's the rub. Its all in LeBron's hands. He has a player option for next year. And if he picks it up, he has a full "no trade" clause.

He's a Laker next year unless he doesn't want to be.
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RE: Timberwolves 2024/2025 Season - 4/29/2025 3:25:33 PM   
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I beg to differ. How can it be a foul if McDaniels had his foot planted first?

LBJ would never agree to a trade. Unless it was to an expansion team in Vegas where he is part owner.


It's not a 'trip' in the normal sense of the word. But if you put your foot down in a spot where the opponent was immediately going to land and he couldn't avoid it, that's the same as a trip in NBA parlance. It's like if you undercut someone going up for a jump shot. They may initiate the contact but you have to allow the person to come down.

Having said that. Big deal. Shit happens. It wasn't anything egregious. It's playoff basketball. play on, whiners.

< Message edited by Karl Juhnke -- 4/29/2025 3:26:33 PM >

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RE: Timberwolves 2024/2025 Season - 4/29/2025 3:34:41 PM   
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I beg to differ. How can it be a foul if McDaniels had his foot planted first?

LBJ would never agree to a trade. Unless it was to an expansion team in Vegas where he is part owner.


It's not a 'trip' in the normal sense of the word. But if you put your foot down in a spot where the opponent was immediately going to land and he couldn't avoid it, that's the same as a trip in NBA parlance. It's like if you undercut someone going up for a jump shot. They may initiate the contact but you have to allow the person to come down.

Having said that. Big deal. Shit happens. It wasn't anything egregious. It's playoff basketball. play on, whiners.


It would have been a foul but after Doncic and Lebron get almost every call all game long......it is tough to complain about the 1 or 2 they didn't get.

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RE: Timberwolves 2024/2025 Season - 4/29/2025 3:40:36 PM   
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I beg to differ. How can it be a foul if McDaniels had his foot planted first?

LBJ would never agree to a trade. Unless it was to an expansion team in Vegas where he is part owner.


It's not a 'trip' in the normal sense of the word. But if you put your foot down in a spot where the opponent was immediately going to land and he couldn't avoid it, that's the same as a trip in NBA parlance. It's like if you undercut someone going up for a jump shot. They may initiate the contact but you have to allow the person to come down.

Having said that. Big deal. Shit happens. It wasn't anything egregious. It's playoff basketball. play on, whiners.

Detroit had a lot more to complain about. Their shooter was clearly fouled on the game deciding shot with no call. The rationale was that it was a level of contact the refs allowed all game.

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RE: Timberwolves 2024/2025 Season - 4/29/2025 4:29:16 PM   
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I beg to differ. How can it be a foul if McDaniels had his foot planted first?

LBJ would never agree to a trade. Unless it was to an expansion team in Vegas where he is part owner.


It's not a 'trip' in the normal sense of the word. But if you put your foot down in a spot where the opponent was immediately going to land and he couldn't avoid it, that's the same as a trip in NBA parlance. It's like if you undercut someone going up for a jump shot. They may initiate the contact but you have to allow the person to come down.

Having said that. Big deal. Shit happens. It wasn't anything egregious. It's playoff basketball. play on, whiners.

Yep. You can't stick your foot out in someone's way(even if it wasn't intentional) and be okay just because your foot was there first.

Having said that, I'm not complaining that's why they lost. They(Lakers) are getting way more calls than the Wolves. They are losing because they have no depth and don't play much defense.

< Message edited by Mark Anderson -- 4/29/2025 4:30:57 PM >
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RE: Timberwolves 2024/2025 Season - 4/29/2025 4:32:40 PM   
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I beg to differ. How can it be a foul if McDaniels had his foot planted first?

LBJ would never agree to a trade. Unless it was to an expansion team in Vegas where he is part owner.


... if you put your foot down in a spot where the opponent was immediately going to land and he couldn't avoid it, that's the same as a trip in NBA parlance.


I dunno. Seems really subjective and, as defined, impossible to consistently enforce. Plus, isn't good defense supposed to be anticipating where your opponent wants to go and getting there first?

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RE: Timberwolves 2024/2025 Season - 4/29/2025 4:38:05 PM   
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I beg to differ. How can it be a foul if McDaniels had his foot planted first?

LBJ would never agree to a trade. Unless it was to an expansion team in Vegas where he is part owner.


... if you put your foot down in a spot where the opponent was immediately going to land and he couldn't avoid it, that's the same as a trip in NBA parlance.


I dunno. Seems really subjective and, as defined, impossible to consistently enforce. Plus, isn't good defense supposed to be anticipating where your opponent wants to go and getting there first?


Yes...But Its also dangerous to take away the spot where someone's foot is going to land.
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RE: Timberwolves 2024/2025 Season - 4/29/2025 4:40:59 PM   
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I beg to differ. How can it be a foul if McDaniels had his foot planted first?

LBJ would never agree to a trade. Unless it was to an expansion team in Vegas where he is part owner.


... if you put your foot down in a spot where the opponent was immediately going to land and he couldn't avoid it, that's the same as a trip in NBA parlance.


I dunno. Seems really subjective and, as defined, impossible to consistently enforce. Plus, isn't good defense supposed to be anticipating where your opponent wants to go and getting there first?

If you get your whole body there and are squared up, yes.
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RE: Timberwolves 2024/2025 Season - 4/29/2025 4:53:00 PM   
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I beg to differ. How can it be a foul if McDaniels had his foot planted first?

LBJ would never agree to a trade. Unless it was to an expansion team in Vegas where he is part owner.


... if you put your foot down in a spot where the opponent was immediately going to land and he couldn't avoid it, that's the same as a trip in NBA parlance.


I dunno. Seems really subjective and, as defined, impossible to consistently enforce. Plus, isn't good defense supposed to be anticipating where your opponent wants to go and getting there first?

If you get your whole body there and are squared up, yes.


The game is so fast that it makes it hard to catch everything; I had no idea Lebron slapped Ant on the wrist until the replay.

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RE: Timberwolves 2024/2025 Season - 4/29/2025 4:58:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Elliot

I beg to differ. How can it be a foul if McDaniels had his foot planted first?

LBJ would never agree to a trade. Unless it was to an expansion team in Vegas where he is part owner.


... if you put your foot down in a spot where the opponent was immediately going to land and he couldn't avoid it, that's the same as a trip in NBA parlance.


I dunno. Seems really subjective and, as defined, impossible to consistently enforce. Plus, isn't good defense supposed to be anticipating where your opponent wants to go and getting there first?

If you get your whole body there and are squared up, yes.


The game is so fast that it makes it hard to catch everything; I had no idea Lebron slapped Ant on the wrist until the replay.

All the stoppages for reviews is bad for the game. Then Detroit/NY game should have had a review and they couldn't.
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RE: Timberwolves 2024/2025 Season - 4/29/2025 5:02:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Elliot

I beg to differ. How can it be a foul if McDaniels had his foot planted first?

LBJ would never agree to a trade. Unless it was to an expansion team in Vegas where he is part owner.


... if you put your foot down in a spot where the opponent was immediately going to land and he couldn't avoid it, that's the same as a trip in NBA parlance.


I dunno. Seems really subjective and, as defined, impossible to consistently enforce. Plus, isn't good defense supposed to be anticipating where your opponent wants to go and getting there first?

If you get your whole body there and are squared up, yes.


The game is so fast that it makes it hard to catch everything; I had no idea Lebron slapped Ant on the wrist until the replay.

All the stoppages for reviews is bad for the game. Then Detroit/NY game should have had a review and they couldn't.

I'm fine with it. There really aren't that many, there is a criteria for a challenge and a consequence for a frivolous challenge in that you can't challenge anymore.

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RE: Timberwolves 2024/2025 Season - 4/29/2025 5:07:35 PM   
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I beg to differ. How can it be a foul if McDaniels had his foot planted first?

LBJ would never agree to a trade. Unless it was to an expansion team in Vegas where he is part owner.


... if you put your foot down in a spot where the opponent was immediately going to land and he couldn't avoid it, that's the same as a trip in NBA parlance.


I dunno. Seems really subjective and, as defined, impossible to consistently enforce. Plus, isn't good defense supposed to be anticipating where your opponent wants to go and getting there first?

If you get your whole body there and are squared up, yes.


The game is so fast that it makes it hard to catch everything; I had no idea Lebron slapped Ant on the wrist until the replay.

All the stoppages for reviews is bad for the game. Then Detroit/NY game should have had a review and they couldn't.

I'm fine with it. There really aren't that many, there is a criteria for a challenge and a consequence for a frivolous challenge in that you can't challenge anymore.

I get that. I'm talking about Flagrant 1 and 2 stoppages. Some of those are ridiculous. 80s and 90s guys were getting clotheslined and it was a foul(probably some pushing and shoving) and play on and shoot FTs.
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RE: Timberwolves 2024/2025 Season - 4/29/2025 5:41:19 PM   
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Stats: 29.8 points, 7.8 rebounds, 5.8 assists, 1.5 turnovers per game, with a team-high plus-28 mark.

Shooting splits: 45.2 percent overall on 23.3 shots per game; 43.2 percent from 3-point range on 9.3 attempts per game; 82.6 percent on 5.8 free throws per game.

Dončić:

Stats: 30.8 points, 7.0 rebounds, 5.0 assists, 4.5 turnovers per game, with a minus-19 mark

Shooting splits: 46.5 percent overall on 21.5 shots per game; 36.8 percent from 3-point range on 9.5 attempts per game; 93.5 percent on 7.8 free throws per game.

Beyond the numbers, though, it has been Edwards by a mile when it comes to the intangibles, too. His defense is elite, while Dončić’s is … The entertainment factor — which matters a great deal when it comes to connecting with the masses — is off the charts because of Edwards’ elite athleticism and competitiveness.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6320037/2025/04/29/anthony-edwards-luka-doncic-brandin-podziemski-tyrese-haliburton-discussionnba-playoffs/
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RE: Timberwolves 2024/2025 Season - 4/30/2025 11:56:06 PM  1 votes
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8 on 5 and we’re playing with the IQ of a potato and we’re going to win.
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RE: Timberwolves 2024/2025 Season - 5/1/2025 12:31:13 AM   
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RE: Timberwolves 2024/2025 Season - 5/1/2025 7:01:53 AM   
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RE: Timberwolves 2024/2025 Season - 5/1/2025 8:03:59 AM   
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We’re going to win the stupidest game I’ve ever seen.

8 on 5 and we’re playing with the IQ of a potato and we’re going to win.


Very well said! Still to finish off the Lakers, and gain a few days rest before the next round, I'll take it.

Seems Donte and Rudy in particular were getting hammered at times with out getting calls. The call on Donte in the fourth I think where LBJ simply ran over him, when both were moving, neither with the ball I didn't like at all. Anyway, ugly game, but better to walk away with the win. Especially nice to send Doncic packing!
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RE: Timberwolves 2024/2025 Season - 5/1/2025 8:51:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wolves should be favored to get to WCF. A healthy OKC squad will be quite the challenge.

Should be exciting if everyone stays healthy.
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RE: Timberwolves 2024/2025 Season - 5/1/2025 10:19:33 AM   
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