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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 3/20/2026 1:38:47 PM

Tom Sykes

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UGHHH. "FUN" fact I just heard the Purple Daily guys just read out loud. We all can see with our eyes how bad it's been but they sited 2 analyitical sources and the Vikings are dead last in draft efficiency since 2022.

The bottom 5:

Tenn
Cle
Arizona
Jets
Vikings

Top 5:

Rams
Tampa
Buffalo
Seattle
GB

That should come as.a surprise to nobody. Queasy has the worst combination of picking players and getting fleeced in pick swaps I have ever seen.

I'm all for giving Kwesi the lion's share of blame but when I see Ingram and Bradbury getting paid by other teams, not sure our coaching did Kwesi any favors.

Plus, let's see how we do this draft ... our scouting / personnel people are suspect until proven otherwise.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 3/20/2026 1:52:12 PM

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The most disturbing part of that is that they highlighted the scores (and I'm not sure how they came up with them) the Vikings were like a -68 and the next closest, the Jets, we like -35.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 3/20/2026 3:17:13 PM

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

UGHHH. "FUN" fact I just heard the Purple Daily guys just read out loud. We all can see with our eyes how bad it's been but they sited 2 analyitical sources and the Vikings are dead last in draft efficiency since 2022.

The bottom 5:

Tenn
Cle
Arizona
Jets
Vikings

Top 5:

Rams
Tampa
Buffalo
Seattle
GB

That should come as.a surprise to nobody. Queasy has the worst combination of picking players and getting fleeced in pick swaps I have ever seen.

I'm all for giving Kwesi the lion's share of blame but when I see Ingram and Bradbury getting paid by other teams, not sure our coaching did Kwesi any favors.

Plus, let's see how we do this draft ... our scouting / personnel people are suspect until proven otherwise.

Bradbury was still the lowest ranked starting center in football last year. Ingram is what he was here. Good run blocker, wretched pass blocker.

I agree on the draft. No excuses for the scouts this time around. They won't be ignored in favor of KAMs spreadsheets this time.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 3/20/2026 3:26:02 PM

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Well Kwesi’s gone and besides his awful drafts, at least we’re now trying to improve on his other major failing, injury prone value propositions in free agency.

Wait … DOH! nevermind.

Well at least we have flooded our qb room to ensure veteran coverage for at least 3 regular season games.

I’m willing to bet that some player not currently in our qb cicada brood will end up starting more games in 2026 than our current three starters put together. (don’t bet me, just making a feeble point)

So as far as projecting wins and losses in March … don’t even!!!

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 3/20/2026 3:55:05 PM

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Well Kwesi’s gone and besides his awful drafts, at least we’re now trying to improve on his other major failing, injury prone value propositions in free agency.

Wait … DOH! nevermind.

Well at least we have flooded our qb room to ensure veteran coverage for at least 3 regular season games.

I’m willing to bet that some player not currently in our qb cicada brood will end up starting more games in 2026 than our current three starters put together. (don’t bet me, just making a feeble point)

So as far as projecting wins and losses in March … don’t even!!!

Well the Bills have declined to match our offer to an OT.

The bigggest key this offseason is to get some young guys so you don’t have to overpay. I still don’t understand why the Packers and Cincy signed Hargrove and Allen to multiple years to somewhat let us off the hook for those two overpays. Not sure Brez or FO thought it would happen but it was brilliant.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 3/20/2026 4:06:38 PM

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Grenard trade talks have slowed down and apparently he hasn’t been so negative on IG. Maybe an extension and or raise?

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 3/20/2026 5:41:35 PM

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Well Kwesi’s gone and besides his awful drafts, at least we’re now trying to improve on his other major failing, injury prone value propositions in free agency.

Wait … DOH! nevermind.

Well at least we have flooded our qb room to ensure veteran coverage for at least 3 regular season games.

I’m willing to bet that some player not currently in our qb cicada brood will end up starting more games in 2026 than our current three starters put together. (don’t bet me, just making a feeble point)

So as far as projecting wins and losses in March … don’t even!!!

Well the Bills have declined to match our offer to an OT.

The bigggest key this offseason is to get some young guys so you don’t have to overpay. I still don’t understand why the Packers and Cincy signed Hargrove and Allen to multiple years to somewhat let us off the hook for those two overpays. Not sure Brez or FO thought it would happen but it was brilliant.

The biggest key is to draft well.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 3/21/2026 5:38:08 AM

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According to a Twitter account:
Athletes first also represents a few guys extended.
Vikings goal was
Kyler
Use currency go get love
Help Drew and bring back Jones’s
Extend Oliver late last year (athletes first client (blocking te)
Let Nailor get over paid
Rip hocks deal to cover jones keep Drew happy
Sign. Hill after jg extension
Jjj moved move back knowing hill possibility if so
Keep Addison in Minnesota to drive up value. Trade next offseason

Sources

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 3/21/2026 5:39:42 AM

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More from poster:
He thinks T Hill will sign a 1/5 million deal. We will see if he has sources. Says Grenard restructure is done.

Keep in mind his agent is Drew and he
Represents many top Vikings. Flores and Drew connection. Wanted Kwesi gone. More coming

We will see if his sources are correct.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 3/21/2026 7:19:22 AM

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

More from poster:
He thinks T Hill will sign a 1/5 million deal. We will see if he has sources. Says Grenard restructure is done.

Keep in mind his agent is Drew and he
Represents many top Vikings. Flores and Drew connection. Wanted Kwesi gone. More coming

We will see if his sources are correct.

14-3. My sources were spot on.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 3/21/2026 8:43:05 AM

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

More from poster:
He thinks T Hill will sign a 1/5 million deal. We will see if he has sources. Says Grenard restructure is done.

Keep in mind his agent is Drew and he
Represents many top Vikings. Flores and Drew connection. Wanted Kwesi gone. More coming

We will see if his sources are correct.

14-3. My sources were spot on.

About Colt Brennan?

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 3/21/2026 8:59:28 AM

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Well Kwesi’s gone and besides his awful drafts, at least we’re now trying to improve on his other major failing, injury prone value propositions in free agency.

Wait … DOH! nevermind.

Well at least we have flooded our qb room to ensure veteran coverage for at least 3 regular season games.

I’m willing to bet that some player not currently in our qb cicada brood will end up starting more games in 2026 than our current three starters put together. (don’t bet me, just making a feeble point)

So as far as projecting wins and losses in March … don’t even!!!

Well the Bills have declined to match our offer to an OT.

The bigggest key this offseason is to get some young guys so you don’t have to overpay. I still don’t understand why the Packers and Cincy signed Hargrove and Allen to multiple years to somewhat let us off the hook for those two overpays. Not sure Brez or FO thought it would happen but it was brilliant.

The biggest key is to draft well.

Give that man a cigar! We have 4 picks in the top 100 and we need to hit on all of them.

Now that Queasy and his analytical charts are gone, we will find out what kind of scouts we have. I hope KOC and Flores are bunkered in with the scouts, going over too talent and scheme fits.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 3/21/2026 9:40:46 AM

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

According to a Twitter account:
Athletes first also represents a few guys extended.
Vikings goal was
Kyler
Use currency go get love
Help Drew and bring back Jones’s
Extend Oliver late last year (athletes first client (blocking te)
Let Nailor get over paid
Rip hocks deal to cover jones keep Drew happy
Sign. Hill after jg extension
Jjj moved move back knowing hill possibility if so
Keep Addison in Minnesota to drive up value. Trade next offseason

Sources

As someone that puts a lot of weird loopy crap out there, I shouldnt complain, but can you please write names instead of letters. I’m not sharp enough to follow.

Which Drew are you talking about?

Which multiple Jones (Joneses Jones’s)

Sign Hill who? JG? JJJ?

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 3/21/2026 9:48:06 AM

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From your part 2 post, you seem to be talking about agent Drew Rosenhaus as if we are making personnel decisions based on coddling him …

That move us from a floundering franchise taking on water to ‘lower than whale shit at the bottom of the ocean’

using all our draft resources on a rb would be so typical of us. Gawd help me.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 3/21/2026 9:48:27 AM

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It is an exact post:

Agent Drew Rosenhaus
J Grenard
They were going to cut Aaron Jones
Tyreke Hill
I don’t know which JJ. Guessing McCarthy.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 3/21/2026 9:52:16 AM

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@bozevan

Drew gets better deal and likes Kyler on prove it deal. New deal likely means more cap and hill comes to Vikings on a 1 year 5 million dollar prove it deal. Bet

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 3/21/2026 9:58:15 AM

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Thanks for replying

There’s always the ‘you never know, could be true’ response,

or the, ‘completely and outrageously fake’ response.

I’ll go with the, ‘I’m not the only one completely bored with our inactivity’.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 3/21/2026 9:59:17 AM

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This poster @bozevan predicted Kwesi would be fired on 1/4/26. Also said one of the main reasons is Flores wasn’t coming back if Kwesi was GM.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 3/21/2026 10:00:59 AM

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Thanks for replying

There’s always the ‘you never know, could be true’ response,

or the, ‘completely and outrageously fake’ response.

I’ll go with the, ‘I’m not the only one completely bored with our inactivity’.

He hasn’t been wrong from what I have seen. Afraid of how excited Marty would be with Tyreke Hill at 1/5 though.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 3/21/2026 10:31:38 AM

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Hill would be sweet, I doubt he would come that cheap, but coming off injury and getting up there in age, you never know.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 3/21/2026 10:37:08 AM

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I dont know anything about Pierce or Demark but I applaud any effort to keep raising your floor when you’re on limited resources. Keep streamlining contracts / the cap to maintain your core of healthy young players, and draft deaft draft.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 3/21/2026 10:41:42 AM

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This poster @bozevan predicted Kwesi would be fired on 1/4/26. Also said one of the main reasons is Flores wasn’t coming back if Kwesi was GM.

Did you not think Kwesi should have been fired?

I think if you throw enough things out there, they won’t all be wrong. Except in my case.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 3/21/2026 10:47:27 AM

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This poster @bozevan predicted Kwesi would be fired on 1/4/26. Also said one of the main reasons is Flores wasn’t coming back if Kwesi was GM.

Did you not think Kwesi should have been fired?

I think if you throw enough things out there, they won’t all be wrong. Except in my case.

Except he said it 3 weeks early and that isn’t all.

I really didn’t see the Drew Rosenhaus influence at such heights until he stated it. So I don’t see it as throwing spaghetti at a wall.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 3/21/2026 11:37:59 AM

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According to a Twitter account:
Athletes first also represents a few guys extended.
Vikings goal was
Kyler
Use currency go get love
Help Drew and bring back Jones’s
Extend Oliver late last year (athletes first client (blocking te)
Let Nailor get over paid
Rip hocks deal to cover jones keep Drew happy
Sign. Hill after jg extension
Jjj moved move back knowing hill possibility if so
Keep Addison in Minnesota to drive up value. Trade next offseason

Sources

As much as I like Love and I think he's the best player in this draft; it would be irresponsible for the team's future to give up that much capitol for a RB.

Most mocks have him going 4-6 and would cost a small fortune to move up that far.

We have so many needs and depth.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 3/21/2026 11:53:10 AM

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true or not it is fascinating to contemplate

According to a Twitter account:
Athletes first also represents a few guys extended.
Vikings goal was
Kyler
Use currency go get love This is a waste imo...Emmett Johnson in the second would be legit with out wasted resources
Help Drew and bring back Jones’s
Extend Oliver late last year (athletes first client (blocking te)
Let Nailor get over paid which he did, and though I liked him, Hill would be a nice replacement lol
Rip hocks deal to cover jones keep Drew happy
Sign. Hill after jg extension OK
Jjj moved move back knowing hill possibility if so
Keep Addison in Minnesota to drive up value. Trade next offseason This might be tough if he is both a FA and Hill takes his reps

agree that coddling Drew Rosenhaus doesn't seem like a sound offseason plan

here's hoping JG is coming back...I love that guy's consistent awesomeness

Hill? Well, he is an impressive #3...

Again, whether any of this stuff works, the season will be fascinating!

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