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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Blair won rookie of the year in 1974 on that loaded Super Bowl team and made it to the Super Bowl three of his first four years on the team. Coincidence?

He did not.

You're putting me in a devil's advocate position, as if I really want to minimize Matt Blair's career.

Any objective rabid vikings fan would not put him near the top four.

IMO It's not even close. Top 20? I think so.

blair could do everything - how many blocked kicks/punts did he have?....

Matt Blair, the Minnesota Vikings linebacker (1974–1985), recorded 20 blocked punts, field goals, and extra points in his career. He is a Vikings franchise leader and recognized as one of the best special teams players, with 20.5 total blocked kicks often cited, featuring 19 combined blocked FGs and XPs.

So now you're double-posting. Same thing yesterday. At least I had the reading glasses excuse.

I know ratoppenheimer asked the question but no matter how great Blair was on special teams ... he's not even close to our Rushmore.

Except it wasn't a double post....he asked a question.
Nice try.

Matt Blair was great on ST and LB.....who is our Rushmore? He is very close on my Rushmore.

From yesterday

Matt Blair, the Minnesota Vikings linebacker (1974–1985), recorded 20 blocked punts, field goals, and extra points in his career. He is a Vikings franchise leader and recognized as one of the best special teams players, with 20.5 total blocked kicks often cited, featuring 19 combined blocked FGs and XPs.

From today

Matt Blair, the Minnesota Vikings linebacker (1974–1985), recorded 20 blocked punts, field goals, and extra points in his career. He is a Vikings franchise leader and recognized as one of the best special teams players, with 20.5 total blocked kicks often cited, featuring 19 combined blocked FGs and XPs.

So yeah, double-post. Get some reading glasses.

Regardless of the question from ratoppenheimer - which I clearly mentioned.

"Very close on my Rushmore" is an absolutely fine way of saying it ... Again I made a clear mention in response to you yesterday of the difference between favorite players on a personal Rushmore vs. etched in stone all-time Rushmore players.

Get yourself two pairs of reading glassses with a couple more emoji laughing attacks.

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Blair won rookie of the year in 1974 on that loaded Super Bowl team and made it to the Super Bowl three of his first four years on the team. Coincidence?

He did not.

You're putting me in a devil's advocate position, as if I really want to minimize Matt Blair's career.

Any objective rabid vikings fan would not put him near the top four.

IMO It's not even close. Top 20? I think so.

blair could do everything - how many blocked kicks/punts did he have?....

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Blair won rookie of the year in 1974 on that loaded Super Bowl team and made it to the Super Bowl three of his first four years on the team. Coincidence?

He did not.

You're putting me in a devil's advocate position, as if I really want to minimize Matt Blair's career.

Any objective rabid vikings fan would not put him near the top four.

IMO It's not even close. Top 20? I think so.

blair could do everything - how many blocked kicks/punts did he have?....

Matt Blair, the Minnesota Vikings linebacker (1974–1985), recorded 20 blocked punts, field goals, and extra points in his career. He is a Vikings franchise leader and recognized as one of the best special teams players, with 20.5 total blocked kicks often cited, featuring 19 combined blocked FGs and XPs.

So now you're double-posting. Same thing yesterday. At least I had the reading glasses excuse.

I know ratoppenheimer asked the question but no matter how great Blair was on special teams ... he's not even close to our Rushmore.

Except it wasn't a double post....he asked a question.
Nice try.

Matt Blair was great on ST and LB.....who is our Rushmore? He is very close on my Rushmore.

From yesterday

Matt Blair, the Minnesota Vikings linebacker (1974–1985), recorded 20 blocked punts, field goals, and extra points in his career. He is a Vikings franchise leader and recognized as one of the best special teams players, with 20.5 total blocked kicks often cited, featuring 19 combined blocked FGs and XPs.

From today

Matt Blair, the Minnesota Vikings linebacker (1974–1985), recorded 20 blocked punts, field goals, and extra points in his career. He is a Vikings franchise leader and recognized as one of the best special teams players, with 20.5 total blocked kicks often cited, featuring 19 combined blocked FGs and XPs.

So yeah, double-post. Get some reading glasses.

Regardless of the question from ratoppenheimer - which I clearly mentioned.

"Very close on my Rushmore" is an absolutely fine way of saying it ... Again I made a clear mention in response to you yesterday of the difference between favorite players on a personal Rushmore vs. etched in stone all-time Rushmore players.

Get yourself two pairs of reading glassses with a couple more emoji laughing attacks.

No, don't mention anything about emojis to him. He constantly misapplies them.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

So you and Bill agree when someone doesn’t think exactly like you. Let’s go after emoji use.


Makes sense if you are a narcissist.

Simpler theory is some like Matt Blair more than you?

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Cousins signed by Raiders.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Cousins signed by Raiders.

Dude is the MVP of guaranteed money!

Adam Schefter:

Comp update: Kirk Cousins will sign a five-year, $172 million deal with the Raiders that in reality is a one-year, fully-guaranteed $20 million deal that also contains a club option for two years at $80M.

The Falcons will pay Cousins $8.7 million this season, the Raiders another $1.3 million and Las Vegas also agreed to pay its new QB a fully-guaranteed $10 million roster bonus on the third day of the 2027 new league year.

And maybe most notably, it also sets another new mark: this will be the 11th straight NFL season in which Cousins’ contract will be fully guaranteed.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

So you and Bill agree when someone doesn’t think exactly like you. Let’s go after emoji use.


Makes sense if you are a narcissist.

Simpler theory is some like Matt Blair more than you?

I'm sure there's some that like Blair more and some that like him less, than I do.

Very good linebacker, great special-teamer. Great Viking player (as are any in my top 20).

He's not in or near the top four Vikings. That's just my opinion. Its not that big a deal.

Nobody in here thinks exactly the same although some of us are annoyed by similar things. That's different.

When two or more posters take issue with something I've said or done, my knee-jerk reaction is not to call them narcissists. LOL.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

So you and Bill agree when someone doesn’t think exactly like you. Let’s go after emoji use.


Makes sense if you are a narcissist.

Simpler theory is some like Matt Blair more than you?

I'm sure there's some that like Blair more and some that like him less, than I do.

Very good linebacker, great special-teamer. Great Viking player (as are any in my top 20).

He's not in or near the top four Vikings. That's just my opinion. Its not that big a deal.

Nobody in here thinks exactly the same although some of us are annoyed by similar things. That's different.

When two or more posters take issue with something I've said or done, my knee-jerk reaction is not to call them narcissists. LOL.

It isn't knee-jerk actually as this isn't just a one time occurrence with you two....

I was looking and the Vikings as an organization have only 28 in the Vikings Ring of Honor:

Jared Allen, Matt Blair, Bill Brown, Browner, Bobby Bryant, Jerry Burns, CC, Doleman, Denny Green, Carl Eller, Jim Finks, Foreman, Bud Grant, Steve Jordan, Jim Marshall, McDaniel, Moss, Page, Randle, Korey Stringer, Scott Studwell, Ahmad Rashad, Fran, Mick Tingelhoff, Kevin Williams, Ron Yary, and Fred Zamberletti.

Weird....Blair is in that list.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

So you and Bill agree when someone doesn’t think exactly like you. Let’s go after emoji use.


Makes sense if you are a narcissist.

Simpler theory is some like Matt Blair more than you?

I'm sure there's some that like Blair more and some that like him less, than I do.

Very good linebacker, great special-teamer. Great Viking player (as are any in my top 20).

He's not in or near the top four Vikings. That's just my opinion. Its not that big a deal.

Nobody in here thinks exactly the same although some of us are annoyed by similar things. That's different.

When two or more posters take issue with something I've said or done, my knee-jerk reaction is not to call them narcissists. LOL.

It isn't knee-jerk actually as this isn't just a one time occurrence with you two....

I was looking and the Vikings as an organization have only 28 in the Vikings Ring of Honor:

Jared Allen, Matt Blair, Bill Brown, Browner, Bobby Bryant, Jerry Burns, CC, Doleman, Denny Green, Carl Eller, Jim Finks, Foreman, Bud Grant, Steve Jordan, Jim Marshall, McDaniel, Moss, Page, Randle, Korey Stringer, Scott Studwell, Ahmad Rashad, Fran, Mick Tingelhoff, Kevin Williams, Ron Yary, and Fred Zamberletti.

Weird....Blair is in that list.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Argumentative?

The norm is everyone having a different list as it is an opinion.

Tough to see that when you think you are talking as if you think you are above everyone else of course.

Deflecting that truth to the use of emojis. Whatever.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

So you and Bill agree when someone doesn’t think exactly like you. Let’s go after emoji use.


Makes sense if you are a narcissist.

Simpler theory is some like Matt Blair more than you?

I'm sure there's some that like Blair more and some that like him less, than I do.

Very good linebacker, great special-teamer. Great Viking player (as are any in my top 20).

He's not in or near the top four Vikings. That's just my opinion. Its not that big a deal.

Nobody in here thinks exactly the same although some of us are annoyed by similar things. That's different.

When two or more posters take issue with something I've said or done, my knee-jerk reaction is not to call them narcissists. LOL.

It isn't knee-jerk actually as this isn't just a one time occurrence with you two....

I was looking and the Vikings as an organization have only 28 in the Vikings Ring of Honor:

Jared Allen, Matt Blair, Bill Brown, Browner, Bobby Bryant, Jerry Burns, CC, Doleman, Denny Green, Carl Eller, Jim Finks, Foreman, Bud Grant, Steve Jordan, Jim Marshall, McDaniel, Moss, Page, Randle, Korey Stringer, Scott Studwell, Ahmad Rashad, Fran, Mick Tingelhoff, Kevin Williams, Ron Yary, and Fred Zamberletti.

Weird....Blair is in that list.

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

So you and Bill agree when someone doesn’t think exactly like you. Let’s go after emoji use.


Makes sense if you are a narcissist.

Simpler theory is some like Matt Blair more than you?

I'm sure there's some that like Blair more and some that like him less, than I do.

Very good linebacker, great special-teamer. Great Viking player (as are any in my top 20).

He's not in or near the top four Vikings. That's just my opinion. Its not that big a deal.

Nobody in here thinks exactly the same although some of us are annoyed by similar things. That's different.

When two or more posters take issue with something I've said or done, my knee-jerk reaction is not to call them narcissists. LOL.

It isn't knee-jerk actually as this isn't just a one time occurrence with you two....

I was looking and the Vikings as an organization have only 28 in the Vikings Ring of Honor:

Jared Allen, Matt Blair, Bill Brown, Browner, Bobby Bryant, Jerry Burns, CC, Doleman, Denny Green, Carl Eller, Jim Finks, Foreman, Bud Grant, Steve Jordan, Jim Marshall, McDaniel, Moss, Page, Randle, Korey Stringer, Scott Studwell, Ahmad Rashad, Fran, Mick Tingelhoff, Kevin Williams, Ron Yary, and Fred Zamberletti.

Weird....Blair is in that list.

matt blair arrived in minnesota when the team was flush with legends on defense, and everyone already had their favorite player on a team that would become lionized in minnesota vikings' lore....

even if you loved blair, he's still overlooked among that group of 1970s established vikings superstars....

he had great size, great speed, and super athleticism - blair is possibly the only '70s vikings' defensive player that could still play in todays nfl....

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

So you and Bill agree when someone doesn’t think exactly like you. Let’s go after emoji use.


Makes sense if you are a narcissist.

Simpler theory is some like Matt Blair more than you?

I'm sure there's some that like Blair more and some that like him less, than I do.

Very good linebacker, great special-teamer. Great Viking player (as are any in my top 20).

He's not in or near the top four Vikings. That's just my opinion. Its not that big a deal.

Nobody in here thinks exactly the same although some of us are annoyed by similar things. That's different.

When two or more posters take issue with something I've said or done, my knee-jerk reaction is not to call them narcissists. LOL.

It isn't knee-jerk actually as this isn't just a one time occurrence with you two....

I was looking and the Vikings as an organization have only 28 in the Vikings Ring of Honor:

Jared Allen, Matt Blair, Bill Brown, Browner, Bobby Bryant, Jerry Burns, CC, Doleman, Denny Green, Carl Eller, Jim Finks, Foreman, Bud Grant, Steve Jordan, Jim Marshall, McDaniel, Moss, Page, Randle, Korey Stringer, Scott Studwell, Ahmad Rashad, Fran, Mick Tingelhoff, Kevin Williams, Ron Yary, and Fred Zamberletti.

Weird....Blair is in that list.

matt blair arrived in minnesota when the team was flush with legends on defense, and everyone already had their favorite player on a team that would become lionized in minnesota vikings' lore....

even if you loved blair, he's still overlooked among that group of 1970s established vikings superstars....

he had great size, great speed, and super athleticism - blair is possibly the only '70s vikings' defensive player that could still play in todays nfl....

Ah, much better than a post asking how many blocked kicks/punts Blair had... after the stats had been posted.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

So you and Bill agree when someone doesn’t think exactly like you. Let’s go after emoji use.


Makes sense if you are a narcissist.

Simpler theory is some like Matt Blair more than you?

I'm sure there's some that like Blair more and some that like him less, than I do.

Very good linebacker, great special-teamer. Great Viking player (as are any in my top 20).

He's not in or near the top four Vikings. That's just my opinion. Its not that big a deal.

Nobody in here thinks exactly the same although some of us are annoyed by similar things. That's different.

When two or more posters take issue with something I've said or done, my knee-jerk reaction is not to call them narcissists. LOL.

It isn't knee-jerk actually as this isn't just a one time occurrence with you two....

I was looking and the Vikings as an organization have only 28 in the Vikings Ring of Honor:

Jared Allen, Matt Blair, Bill Brown, Browner, Bobby Bryant, Jerry Burns, CC, Doleman, Denny Green, Carl Eller, Jim Finks, Foreman, Bud Grant, Steve Jordan, Jim Marshall, McDaniel, Moss, Page, Randle, Korey Stringer, Scott Studwell, Ahmad Rashad, Fran, Mick Tingelhoff, Kevin Williams, Ron Yary, and Fred Zamberletti.

Weird....Blair is in that list.

matt blair arrived in minnesota when the team was flush with legends on defense, and everyone already had their favorite player on a team that would become lionized in minnesota vikings' lore....

even if you loved blair, he's still overlooked among that group of 1970s established vikings superstars....

he had great size, great speed, and super athleticism - blair is possibly the only '70s vikings' defensive player that could still play in todays nfl....

Ah, much better than a post asking how many blocked kicks/punts Blair had... after the stats had been posted.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

So you and Bill agree when someone doesn’t think exactly like you. Let’s go after emoji use.


Makes sense if you are a narcissist.

Simpler theory is some like Matt Blair more than you?

I'm sure there's some that like Blair more and some that like him less, than I do.

Very good linebacker, great special-teamer. Great Viking player (as are any in my top 20).

He's not in or near the top four Vikings. That's just my opinion. Its not that big a deal.

Nobody in here thinks exactly the same although some of us are annoyed by similar things. That's different.

When two or more posters take issue with something I've said or done, my knee-jerk reaction is not to call them narcissists. LOL.

It isn't knee-jerk actually as this isn't just a one time occurrence with you two....

I was looking and the Vikings as an organization have only 28 in the Vikings Ring of Honor:

Jared Allen, Matt Blair, Bill Brown, Browner, Bobby Bryant, Jerry Burns, CC, Doleman, Denny Green, Carl Eller, Jim Finks, Foreman, Bud Grant, Steve Jordan, Jim Marshall, McDaniel, Moss, Page, Randle, Korey Stringer, Scott Studwell, Ahmad Rashad, Fran, Mick Tingelhoff, Kevin Williams, Ron Yary, and Fred Zamberletti.

Weird....Blair is in that list.

matt blair arrived in minnesota when the team was flush with legends on defense, and everyone already had their favorite player on a team that would become lionized in minnesota vikings' lore....

even if you loved blair, he's still overlooked among that group of 1970s established vikings superstars....

he had great size, great speed, and super athleticism - blair is possibly the only '70s vikings' defensive player that could still play in todays nfl....

Ah, much better than a post asking how many blocked kicks/punts Blair had... after the stats had been posted.

Those guys could all play in today's NFL. They would been brought up in the modern era of sports nutrition, training methods and PED's. They all would be bigger, stronger and faster than the 1970's versions of themselves.

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My perspective right now it is that it is likely again the Bears win the division, unless Murray exceeds expectations, if he is decent, the Vikings could be at their heels. Or if McCarthy shines.

Chicago - Caleb Williams along with Ben Johnson is a strong foundation
Minnesota - I expect a 2nd place finish in the division, unless the regular season gets a little magical like it was with both Cousins and Darnold
Detroit - 3rd in the division, still feeling the loss of OC Ben Johnson, Pacheco is sort of a wildcard here, but my guess he will get injured and miss plenty of the season.
GB - A rare occasion where I pick GB to finish last in the division. They will likely miss their defensive coordinator, but their passing game can keep them in any game. I also feel like they lost some good depth in FA.

This is a pretty competitive division, nobody really sucks. I feel if the Vikings win the division, they will be in the NFC Championship game, maybe make it to the Super Bowl.