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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 4/11/2026 9:56:41 AM   
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And he's heading into a contract year.


Yes but top RBs only make 15 and he is 24. Achane is arguably a top 5-6 RB.

A major key for our offense is a running game. A 3rd and a 5th. Sign me up.


Why do that when your 'insider' said we will draft RB Love? I presume by moving up in the draft. What were the remarks? Oh yeah, "Use currency go get love".

The goal is to get an explosive rb. Love or Achane. Either take capital.


Love was a prediction, not a goal, from the insider you posted. Every player worth anything takes capital.

Jordan Mason's lowest average ypc was 5.2 during his time in SF. Here he couldn't even crack 5.0.

RB isn't the problem. And Brzez needs to be bitch-slapped if he starts trading up for one.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 4/11/2026 11:12:20 AM   
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Explosive run game should be a goal. Runs or receptions over 30 years is not what Mason is.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 4/11/2026 12:00:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		It would be great if Mason could run for 30 years, but if Love is the next McCaffrey, or you can make a trade for someone like Achane, Hall or Croskey-Merrit, if the price is right, go for it.

Other important needs seem to be another G, a Safety, NT and #3 WR. Pick #1 should probably be one of those 4, unless you can get Love.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 4/11/2026 12:28:29 PM   
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Explosive run game should be a goal. Runs or receptions over 30 years is not what Mason is.


You're into the word 'explosive', and that's ok.

So yeah, if there is a RB who gains 30 yards a run/reception they need to get this other-worldly talent.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 4/11/2026 1:30:42 PM   
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I'm tired of trading away draft capital. I'd rather have my rb on a rookie contract.

No kidding. People want to do the exact thing that has put us in our current NOT ideal state … burn through draft resources (for a rb no less) or trade for and take on a heavy / top 5 veteran contract next year (for a rb no less).

Kwesi cap mgmt 101 … try to have the most players you can as the highest paid at their position - WR, RT, FB, TE

Do your job and draft better or go away.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 4/11/2026 1:43:44 PM   
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Explosive run game should be a goal. Runs or receptions over 30 years is not what Mason is.


You're into the word 'explosive', and that's ok.

So yeah, if there is a RB who gains 30 yards a run/reception they need to get this other-worldly talent.

Look at his stats. Not just words with Achane.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 4/11/2026 2:22:24 PM   
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I'm tired of trading away draft capital. I'd rather have my rb on a rookie contract.

No kidding. People want to do the exact thing that has put us in our current NOT ideal state … burn through draft resources (for a rb no less) or trade for and take on a heavy / top 5 veteran contract next year (for a rb no less).

Kwesi cap mgmt 101 … try to have the most players you can as the highest paid at their position - WR, RT, FB, TE

Do your job and draft better or go away.


It's the triple whammy of forking over valued assets and paying for the big new contract at a middling position.

Meanwhile, the fellow already wants a new contract. After beginning voluntary offseason workouts, Achane was the lone member of the Miami Dolphins to skip the workouts, likely due to his ongoing contract request.

First thing I thought of seeing that was 'highest paid at the position/set the bar for RBs'.

Meanwhile we don't have enough cap right now to even pay for the rookie class. Not a big deal since we do have Kwesi on speed dial to get some more credit cards.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 4/11/2026 2:25:39 PM   
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Explosive run game should be a goal. Runs or receptions over 30 years is not what Mason is.


You're into the word 'explosive', and that's ok.

So yeah, if there is a RB who gains 30 yards a run/reception they need to get this other-worldly talent.

Look at his stats. Not just words with Achane.


Better to trade for Miami's best run blockers.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 4/11/2026 2:37:47 PM   
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So Miami has this RB staging a light holdout for a new contract. Let's trade for him and set the contract bar at RB. We'll get some windfall cap later but his contract will have to be heavily backloaded. Pay later, when JJ's cap hits are $50M per, Darrisaw's $30M per, and the kicked cans start popping creating a mess for someone else to clean up!

More importantly, what about the real needs you ask? Piece of cake. Since we traded away valuable picks for the pricy RB, we'll build through free agency! We'll pay for overpriced FAs by restructuring, aka kicking cans, cutting, and doubling void year placeholders.

As for QB, the most important position, I once said (The Super Bowl) is more likely to win if you have that quarterback (Brady, Mahomes); it’s very unlikely to have that quarterback. So the hell with QB. Besides, QB salaries are tall cotton so it's imperative we continue to cycle in dirt cheap QBs. Let's keep an eye on Russell Wilson for 2027. And Flacco.

I left, but my philosophy lives on! Remember The football is oblong and use it as your guiding principle. Sustainable competitive mediocrity is your goal. Zero Dark Thirty out.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 4/16/2026 7:21:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Cute analogy that doesn't fit Achane.

He is 24 and a top 5 RB not a 30-31 year old DT that was signed for way more than Achane would cost. They aren't going to pay him $$$25 million like Allen or 17 million like Hargrove but most likely under 15 for a young top 5 guy at his position at a cost of a 3rd and a 5th.

Keep trying Bill.....

It only doesn't fit because they resigned the actual aging Jones which was more Kwesi like actually.

It is a need and yeah they can still draft one.....they could of cut Jones and drafted one too.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 4/16/2026 7:55:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Under $15 is a BIG assumption. Achane is looking to push that threshold. And it's still $15M at a position that doesn't demand $15M on a cap strapped team.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 4/16/2026 8:22:06 AM   
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Cute analogy that doesn't fit Achane.

He is 24 and a top 5 RB not a 30-31 year old DT that was signed for way more than Achane would cost. They aren't going to pay him $$$25 million like Allen or 17 million like Hargrove but most likely under 15 for a young top 5 guy at his position at a cost of a 3rd and a 5th.

Keep trying Bill.....

It only doesn't fit because they resigned the actual aging Jones which was more Kwesi like actually.

It is a need and yeah they can still draft one.....they could of cut Jones and drafted one too.


An analogy isn't what you think it is. It's based on a comparison, which I didn't do. And certainly didn't mention Allen or Hargrave.

To dumb it down for you, it's the combined costs of resources, i.e. draft picks and cap. A 3rd and 5th? For the record you were good with a 2nd and 5th.

But Miami says he won't be traded. Which I believe since he didn't leave during their fire sale.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 4/16/2026 8:22:57 AM   
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Skor North was talking about RB Achane and a writer was throwing out some of his spaghetti. One of his guesses was MN getting Achane for a 2nd and a 5th.

I would not mind that.


Bump.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 4/16/2026 9:17:26 AM   
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Skor North was talking about RB Achane and a writer was throwing out some of his spaghetti. One of his guesses was MN getting Achane for a 2nd and a 5th.

I would not mind that.


Bump.


Yepper. Again disregarding he is only 24, not injured, and a top 5 RB......(which makes it a non Kwesi approach).

A Jones resigned at 10 million......same old approach after Kwesi left. Your whole theory is blown to shit because they did the (sign an old injured vet) any way. They shouldn't have re signed Jones and then drafted one.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 4/16/2026 9:55:14 AM   
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Skor North was talking about RB Achane and a writer was throwing out some of his spaghetti. One of his guesses was MN getting Achane for a 2nd and a 5th.

I would not mind that.


Bump.


Yepper. Again disregarding he is only 24, not injured, and a top 5 RB......(which makes it a non Kwesi approach).

A Jones resigned at 10 million......same old approach after Kwesi left. Your whole theory is blown to shit because they did the (sign an old injured vet) any way. They shouldn't have re signed Jones and then drafted one.


Stupid money being thrown at RB. Thanks for making my point.

And actually your whole theory is blown to shit because Miami isn't trading your wonder boy.

Moreover, you don't understand satire. The Kwesi Masterclass post was a fun theoretical compilation of Kwesi's stereotypical decisions made over the years and how they might apply. But in your mind first it was about Allen and Hargrave, then it was about Aaron Jones. Not that you were ever any good at comprehension.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 4/16/2026 10:45:27 AM   
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Skor North was talking about RB Achane and a writer was throwing out some of his spaghetti. One of his guesses was MN getting Achane for a 2nd and a 5th.

I would not mind that.


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Yepper. Again disregarding he is only 24, not injured, and a top 5 RB......(which makes it a non Kwesi approach).

A Jones resigned at 10 million......same old approach after Kwesi left. Your whole theory is blown to shit because they did the (sign an old injured vet) any way. They shouldn't have re signed Jones and then drafted one.


Stupid money being thrown at RB. Thanks for making my point.

And actually your whole theory is blown to shit because Miami isn't trading your wonder boy.

Moreover, you don't understand satire. The Kwesi Masterclass post was a fun theoretical compilation of Kwesi's stereotypical decisions made over the years and how they might apply. But in your mind first it was about Allen and Hargrave, then it was about Aaron Jones. Not that you were ever any good at comprehension.


A top, young player versus old and injured. Perfect example of when to use resources and it may still backfire.
Now Van Ginkel, Greenard, and Cashman have worked very well but they didn't originally cost as much. If they hadn't boy what a worse mess it would be.

I still think Kwesi wanted Milton Williams and I forget the other FA from last year. When he didn't get them he went after Hargrave and Allen. Just two very bad decisions just as signing Kelly was a third.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 4/16/2026 11:21:12 AM   
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Skor North was talking about RB Achane and a writer was throwing out some of his spaghetti. One of his guesses was MN getting Achane for a 2nd and a 5th.

I would not mind that.


Bump.


Yepper. Again disregarding he is only 24, not injured, and a top 5 RB......(which makes it a non Kwesi approach).

A Jones resigned at 10 million......same old approach after Kwesi left. Your whole theory is blown to shit because they did the (sign an old injured vet) any way. They shouldn't have re signed Jones and then drafted one.


Stupid money being thrown at RB. Thanks for making my point.

And actually your whole theory is blown to shit because Miami isn't trading your wonder boy.

Moreover, you don't understand satire. The Kwesi Masterclass post was a fun theoretical compilation of Kwesi's stereotypical decisions made over the years and how they might apply. But in your mind first it was about Allen and Hargrave, then it was about Aaron Jones. Not that you were ever any good at comprehension.


A top, young player versus old and injured. Perfect example of when to use resources and it may still backfire.
Now Van Ginkel, Greenard, and Cashman have worked very well but they didn't originally cost as much. If they hadn't boy what a worse mess it would be.

I still think Kwesi wanted Milton Williams and I forget the other FA from last year. When he didn't get them he went after Hargrave and Allen. Just two very bad decisions just as signing Kelly was a third.


Who cares. I'm just glad the guy is off the market... just in case Brzez would have been dumb enough to fork over a 2nd and 5th and set a new record for a RB contract.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 4/17/2026 7:41:27 AM   
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Skor North was talking about RB Achane and a writer was throwing out some of his spaghetti. One of his guesses was MN getting Achane for a 2nd and a 5th.

I would not mind that.


Bump.


Yepper. Again disregarding he is only 24, not injured, and a top 5 RB......(which makes it a non Kwesi approach).

A Jones resigned at 10 million......same old approach after Kwesi left. Your whole theory is blown to shit because they did the (sign an old injured vet) any way. They shouldn't have re signed Jones and then drafted one.


Stupid money being thrown at RB. Thanks for making my point.

And actually your whole theory is blown to shit because Miami isn't trading your wonder boy.

Moreover, you don't understand satire. The Kwesi Masterclass post was a fun theoretical compilation of Kwesi's stereotypical decisions made over the years and how they might apply. But in your mind first it was about Allen and Hargrave, then it was about Aaron Jones. Not that you were ever any good at comprehension.


A top, young player versus old and injured. Perfect example of when to use resources and it may still backfire.
Now Van Ginkel, Greenard, and Cashman have worked very well but they didn't originally cost as much. If they hadn't boy what a worse mess it would be.

I still think Kwesi wanted Milton Williams and I forget the other FA from last year. When he didn't get them he went after Hargrave and Allen. Just two very bad decisions just as signing Kelly was a third.


Who cares. I'm just glad the guy is off the market... just in case Brzez would have been dumb enough to fork over a 2nd and 5th and set a new record for a RB contract.


Hyperbolize much when you are wrong? Words do get big for you....if you didn't understand overstate and amplify are synonyms to hyperbolize. The rumor was a 3rd and a 5th.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 4/17/2026 9:06:18 AM   
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Skor North was talking about RB Achane and a writer was throwing out some of his spaghetti. One of his guesses was MN getting Achane for a 2nd and a 5th.

I would not mind that.


So you say the rumor was a 3rd and 5th?

Because I clearly see it says a 2nd and a 5th, which you are fine with.

Maybe you should keep track of your posts before trying to educate me on a new word you found... that turned out to not even apply.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 4/17/2026 9:21:02 AM   
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Skor North was talking about RB Achane and a writer was throwing out some of his spaghetti. One of his guesses was MN getting Achane for a 2nd and a 5th.

I would not mind that.


So you say the rumor was a 3rd and 5th?

Because I clearly see it says a 2nd and a 5th, which you are fine with.

Maybe you should keep track of your posts before trying to educate me on a new word you found... that turned out to not even apply.


You are just sad and unhappy with either aren't you because you didn't think of it?

Top 5 young RB that is explosive is a need. If they draft one that is fine with me.....last I checked this the Vikes thread not just Bill's opinion only thread.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 4/17/2026 9:27:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		So once again, pages of the forum are tied up arguing over a hypothetical trade that is never going to happen.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 4/17/2026 9:30:45 AM   
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So once again, pages of the forum are tied up arguing over a hypothetical trade that is never going to happen.


With Bill it never was about the trade....which you know.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 4/17/2026 9:32:51 AM   
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So once again, pages of the forum are tied up arguing over a hypothetical trade that is never going to happen.


With Bill it never was about the trade....which you know.

Oh shut up Phil. You jumped into the personal stuff with both feet. You're not on any moral high ground.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 4/17/2026 9:34:45 AM   
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So once again, pages of the forum are tied up arguing over a hypothetical trade that is never going to happen.


With Bill it never was about the trade....which you know.

Oh shut up Phil. You jumped into the personal stuff with both feet. You're not on any moral high ground.


Feel free to look back....its all there. I can feel free to post any idea.

Moral high ground? Give me a break. Go be sad and unhappy somewhere else.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 4/17/2026 9:44:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		You and Bill have going at it over multiple threads for years. I'm sorry, but "he started it" doesn't fly.

Sad and unhappy? I see you're trying out a new schtick.

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