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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 12/1/2025 11:36:58 AM   
Mark Anderson

 

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Lars

For anyone who thought this was just a JJM problem and Brosmer would be the salve, need to see more? Hot garbage. That pick 6 was straight out of a HS game.

This is a KOC and KAM problem. Running an offense like you have a 10 year vet out there. KOC is not a developer of young QB. He can put a little polish on an old turd with some weapons around him (KFC, Darnold, etc.) And KAM's draft are shite.

This offense and team has no identity. That goes straight to the top.

And sorry, but Darnold looked the same to me. Sacked how many times? Two fumbles? One lost? Like 150 yards passing? For $100M+? No thanks.

And if the skill guys like JJ wanna pout and cry, catch the ****ing ball.

On one bright note, Turner seems to be getting better each week, IMHO.

9-3

Not sure what you guys have against winning. It's a puzzling phenomenon with you people.

Not every game can be perfect. Your expectations are unreasonable. The guy still has the #7 passer rating and #9 QB rating in the league. His team is 9-3. He's 23-6 (.793) during the regular season since the beginning of last season.

For $33-million, that's a huge bargain.

Defense is unbelievable.

The book is out on Darnold. A good defense can pressure him and give him happy feet. Running game and defense could carry SEA to one playoff victory.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 12/1/2025 11:38:59 AM   
Mark Anderson

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lars

For anyone who thought this was just a JJM problem and Brosmer would be the salve, need to see more? Hot garbage. That pick 6 was straight out of a HS game.

This is a KOC and KAM problem. Running an offense like you have a 10 year vet out there. KOC is not a developer of young QB. He can put a little polish on an old turd with some weapons around him (KFC, Darnold, etc.) And KAM's draft are shite.

This offense and team has no identity. That goes straight to the top.

And sorry, but Darnold looked the same to me. Sacked how many times? Two fumbles? One lost? Like 150 yards passing? For $100M+? No thanks.

And if the skill guys like JJ wanna pout and cry, catch the ****ing ball.

On one bright note, Turner seems to be getting better each week, IMHO.

KAM as a GM is like Skule starting at LT for 5 years straight.

We can't let him do this next draft.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 12/1/2025 11:39:41 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lars

For anyone who thought this was just a JJM problem and Brosmer would be the salve, need to see more? Hot garbage. That pick 6 was straight out of a HS game.

This is a KOC and KAM problem. Running an offense like you have a 10 year vet out there. KOC is not a developer of young QB. He can put a little polish on an old turd with some weapons around him (KFC, Darnold, etc.) And KAM's draft are shite.

This offense and team has no identity. That goes straight to the top.

And sorry, but Darnold looked the same to me. Sacked how many times? Two fumbles? One lost? Like 150 yards passing? For $100M+? No thanks.

And if the skill guys like JJ wanna pout and cry, catch the ****ing ball.

On one bright note, Turner seems to be getting better each week, IMHO.

9-3

Not sure what you guys have against winning. It's a puzzling phenomenon with you people.

Not every game can be perfect. Your expectations are unreasonable. The guy still has the #7 passer rating and #9 QB rating in the league. His team is 9-3. He's 23-6 (.793) during the regular season since the beginning of last season.

For $33-million, that's a huge bargain.

Defense is unbelievable.

The book is out on Darnold. A good defense can pressure him and give him happy feet. Running game and defense could carry SEA to one playoff victory.

You gotta protect him. Same with Jared Goff, who is averaging $53-million over four years. I don't see the Lions trying to part with Goff.

Like I said, your guys' expectations are unreasonable.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 12/1/2025 11:44:52 AM   
Mark Anderson

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lars

For anyone who thought this was just a JJM problem and Brosmer would be the salve, need to see more? Hot garbage. That pick 6 was straight out of a HS game.

This is a KOC and KAM problem. Running an offense like you have a 10 year vet out there. KOC is not a developer of young QB. He can put a little polish on an old turd with some weapons around him (KFC, Darnold, etc.) And KAM's draft are shite.

This offense and team has no identity. That goes straight to the top.

And sorry, but Darnold looked the same to me. Sacked how many times? Two fumbles? One lost? Like 150 yards passing? For $100M+? No thanks.

And if the skill guys like JJ wanna pout and cry, catch the ****ing ball.

On one bright note, Turner seems to be getting better each week, IMHO.

9-3

Not sure what you guys have against winning. It's a puzzling phenomenon with you people.

Not every game can be perfect. Your expectations are unreasonable. The guy still has the #7 passer rating and #9 QB rating in the league. His team is 9-3. He's 23-6 (.793) during the regular season since the beginning of last season.

For $33-million, that's a huge bargain.

Defense is unbelievable.

The book is out on Darnold. A good defense can pressure him and give him happy feet. Running game and defense could carry SEA to one playoff victory.

You gotta protect him. Same with Jared Goff, who is averaging $53-million over four years. I don't see the Lions trying to part with Goff.

Like I said, your guys' expectations are unreasonable.

We obviously can't protect any of the QBs we have playing this year. Sam would be 6-6 with this outfit we have. Probably 8-10 lost fumbles.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 12/1/2025 11:50:21 AM   
Mark Anderson

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lars

For anyone who thought this was just a JJM problem and Brosmer would be the salve, need to see more? Hot garbage. That pick 6 was straight out of a HS game.

This is a KOC and KAM problem. Running an offense like you have a 10 year vet out there. KOC is not a developer of young QB. He can put a little polish on an old turd with some weapons around him (KFC, Darnold, etc.) And KAM's draft are shite.

This offense and team has no identity. That goes straight to the top.

And sorry, but Darnold looked the same to me. Sacked how many times? Two fumbles? One lost? Like 150 yards passing? For $100M+? No thanks.

And if the skill guys like JJ wanna pout and cry, catch the ****ing ball.

On one bright note, Turner seems to be getting better each week, IMHO.

9-3

Not sure what you guys have against winning. It's a puzzling phenomenon with you people.

Not every game can be perfect. Your expectations are unreasonable. The guy still has the #7 passer rating and #9 QB rating in the league. His team is 9-3. He's 23-6 (.793) during the regular season since the beginning of last season.

For $33-million, that's a huge bargain.

Defense is unbelievable.

The book is out on Darnold. A good defense can pressure him and give him happy feet. Running game and defense could carry SEA to one playoff victory.

You gotta protect him. Same with Jared Goff, who is averaging $53-million over four years. I don't see the Lions trying to part with Goff.

Like I said, your guys' expectations are unreasonable.

And the Lions probably won't make playoffs this year.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 12/1/2025 12:03:07 PM   
David Levine


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lars

For anyone who thought this was just a JJM problem and Brosmer would be the salve, need to see more? Hot garbage. That pick 6 was straight out of a HS game.

This is a KOC and KAM problem. Running an offense like you have a 10 year vet out there. KOC is not a developer of young QB. He can put a little polish on an old turd with some weapons around him (KFC, Darnold, etc.) And KAM's draft are shite.

This offense and team has no identity. That goes straight to the top.

And sorry, but Darnold looked the same to me. Sacked how many times? Two fumbles? One lost? Like 150 yards passing? For $100M+? No thanks.

And if the skill guys like JJ wanna pout and cry, catch the ****ing ball.

On one bright note, Turner seems to be getting better each week, IMHO.

9-3

Not sure what you guys have against winning. It's a puzzling phenomenon with you people.

Not every game can be perfect. Your expectations are unreasonable. The guy still has the #7 passer rating and #9 QB rating in the league. His team is 9-3. He's 23-6 (.793) during the regular season since the beginning of last season.

For $33-million, that's a huge bargain.

Defense is unbelievable.

The book is out on Darnold. A good defense can pressure him and give him happy feet. Running game and defense could carry SEA to one playoff victory.

You gotta protect him. Same with Jared Goff, who is averaging $53-million over four years. I don't see the Lions trying to part with Goff.

Like I said, your guys' expectations are unreasonable.


That's BS. He generated most of the sacks yesterday by holding the ball forever.

Seattle has done everything possible to protect him.

He was sacked only 11 times in 11 games before yesterday.

He was sacked twice total the previous 4 games - including 0 times when he shit the bed against the Rams.

Sam is a front runner. Looks all world when everything is clicking. But he reverts to the old "seeing ghosts" version of himself when things aren't perfect.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 12/1/2025 12:07:12 PM   
marty


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Seattle has been a great situation for Sam, but I am sure Brad will agree, Sam likely wouldn't have had the Vikings any better than 6-6 this year, making his price not worthwhile.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 12/1/2025 12:07:39 PM   
stfrank

 

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Alec Lewis summed up the Vikings in one sentence.
On Sunday, a young, explosive and disciplined Seattle Seahawks team blanked a Vikings squad that featured none of those characteristics.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 12/1/2025 12:16:49 PM   
marty


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As much as I like Marty's idea from 2 years ago, making Brian Flores the HC (there is Bernardo Harris and David Boston), there are questions about veteran QBs beating his bend but eventually break defense, and he doesn't handle people in the great way a guy like KOC can do it, just ask Tua.

What about the Browns DC, Jim Schwartz ? Or is he too old school, too reliant on Myles Garrett, and probably wouldn't elevate the offense to a high level ??

What about bringing back Mike Tomlin for HC ? The same red flags as Schwartz?

Any great, disciplined, OCs going to be available for HC next year ?

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 12/1/2025 12:20:29 PM   
Mark Anderson

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lars

For anyone who thought this was just a JJM problem and Brosmer would be the salve, need to see more? Hot garbage. That pick 6 was straight out of a HS game.

This is a KOC and KAM problem. Running an offense like you have a 10 year vet out there. KOC is not a developer of young QB. He can put a little polish on an old turd with some weapons around him (KFC, Darnold, etc.) And KAM's draft are shite.

This offense and team has no identity. That goes straight to the top.

And sorry, but Darnold looked the same to me. Sacked how many times? Two fumbles? One lost? Like 150 yards passing? For $100M+? No thanks.

And if the skill guys like JJ wanna pout and cry, catch the ****ing ball.

On one bright note, Turner seems to be getting better each week, IMHO.

9-3

Not sure what you guys have against winning. It's a puzzling phenomenon with you people.

Not every game can be perfect. Your expectations are unreasonable. The guy still has the #7 passer rating and #9 QB rating in the league. His team is 9-3. He's 23-6 (.793) during the regular season since the beginning of last season.

For $33-million, that's a huge bargain.

Defense is unbelievable.

The book is out on Darnold. A good defense can pressure him and give him happy feet. Running game and defense could carry SEA to one playoff victory.

You gotta protect him. Same with Jared Goff, who is averaging $53-million over four years. I don't see the Lions trying to part with Goff.

Like I said, your guys' expectations are unreasonable.


That's BS. He generated most of the sacks yesterday by holding the ball forever.

Seattle has done everything possible to protect him.

He was sacked only 11 times in 11 games before yesterday.

He was sacked twice total the previous 4 games - including 0 times when he shit the bed against the Rams.

Sam is a front runner. Looks all world when everything is clicking. But he reverts to the old "seeing ghosts" version of himself when things aren't perfect.

He has 23 wins in last year and a half.

I'm guessing 5 or less of the teams he beat had a winning record when he played them.

He's a good guy. Humble guy. But he is probably a top 12-15 guy when it is all said and done.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 12/1/2025 12:21:25 PM   
Mark Anderson

 

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

Alec Lewis summed up the Vikings in one sentence.
On Sunday, a young, explosive and disciplined Seattle Seahawks team blanked a Vikings squad that featured none of those characteristics.

YEP
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 12/1/2025 12:23:07 PM   
Mark Anderson

 

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Seattle has been a great situation for Sam, but I am sure Brad will agree, Sam likely wouldn't have had the Vikings any better than 6-6 this year, making his price not worthwhile.

Bingo.

And supposedly we offered him 30 plus for 1 year.
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