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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/28/2026 2:47:42 PM   
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Two posts above mention a trade for Mac Jones. That scenario fits WRT to the lack of QB talent on the roster. Have they already seen enough of Murray to seek an upgrade via a trade?

But then are they hitching the wagon to Mac Jones?

At the same time, trading JJM doesn't really move the needle as far as the QB room goes. Bring in another boom/bust guy right now and things are the same tomorrow as they were early this morning.

Looking to the draft, the 3-0 start doesn't help in terms of massing resources for a top QB. Although it's not that bad in relative terms because trading up is so expensive to do anyway.



What people seem to be missing about Mac Jones. The 49ers QB is Brock Purdy, who is pretty good but has a lot of injury issues over the past few years. I don't see the 49ers risking not having a viable backup unless they are getting a significant return...meaning a lot more than we just got to give JJM to the Giants.


It would clearly cost a lot more than a 5th to get Jones. He's actually a functioning NFL QB.

If you meet their asking price, you're pretty much saying that you plan to resign Jones long-term as your guy. And that's pretty scary for a guy who is remarkably mediocre.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/28/2026 2:51:12 PM   
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Herbert isn't worth the money. He's a mess


132M in dead cap if we was traded before this season. 86M this offseason.

After the 2027-28 season, it becomes somewhat palatable - but he still has a 71M cap hit for the 2028 season.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/28/2026 3:48:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Two posts above mention a trade for Mac Jones. That scenario fits WRT to the lack of QB talent on the roster. Have they already seen enough of Murray to seek an upgrade via a trade?

But then are they hitching the wagon to Mac Jones?

At the same time, trading JJM doesn't really move the needle as far as the QB room goes. Bring in another boom/bust guy right now and things are the same tomorrow as they were early this morning.

Looking to the draft, the 3-0 start doesn't help in terms of massing resources for a top QB. Although it's not that bad in relative terms because trading up is so expensive to do anyway.



What people seem to be missing about Mac Jones. The 49ers QB is Brock Purdy, who is pretty good but has a lot of injury issues over the past few years. I don't see the 49ers risking not having a viable backup unless they are getting a significant return...meaning a lot more than we just got to give JJM to the Giants.


It would clearly cost a lot more than a 5th to get Jones. He's actually a functioning NFL QB.

If you meet their asking price, you're pretty much saying that you plan to resign Jones long-term as your guy. And that's pretty scary for a guy who is remarkably mediocre.


That's the issue. It's like he may help to salvage the season but then what? Signing him long term almost precludes you from moving up to draft a QB even around spot #15 because one of those expensive assets will have to sit. Plus you're down a pick or whatever for getting him in the first place.

One scenario: you get lucky and they take a 3rd and the 5th from the Giants. He plays ok. Not a world beater but not someone you want to break the bank over. You think we'll draft someone. Meanwhile the clock keeps ticking and Jones hits free agency. If the regime is ok with a possible rental, they might give it a go. But I think he will cost more than a 3rd and a 5th.

Or he plays lights out. Is the assumption he is the real thing (vs a flash in the pan) worth risking handing over big bucks? Because if he reverts back to being a low end starter/solid backup, you've set the team back several more years.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/28/2026 4:02:26 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/28/2026 4:04:56 PM   
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It would clearly cost a lot more than a 5th to get Jones. He's actually a functioning NFL QB.

If you meet their asking price, you're pretty much saying that you plan to resign Jones long-term as your guy. And that's pretty scary for a guy who is remarkably mediocre.

It's really sad how good "remarkable mediocrity" sounds compared to what we have.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/28/2026 4:06:45 PM   
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Status: online 		Vikings Territory was onto JJM getting traded before others....not sure I like all of their 3 QB options when your #1 is someone we have tried:

Vikings Territory 3 Vikings QB Options to consider:
1. Nick Mullens (Jax Practice Squad)
2. Will Levis (NYJ Practice Squad)
3. Jalen Milroe, Seattle #3

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/28/2026 4:07:48 PM   
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Status: online 		And it's done. We spent picks # 11, 129 and 159 to get McCarthy and two years later we get a 5th for him.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/28/2026 4:13:21 PM   
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Nolan Teasley on the J.J. McCarthy trade: We got to the point where the return made sense for us now to get an asset that honestly is going to help us in the future or maybe even this season.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/28/2026 4:19:16 PM   
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And it's done. We spent picks # 11, 129 and 159 to get McCarthy and two years later we get a 5th for him.


Yep, Kwesi used extra picks to move up a spot because he failed to read the room and bidded against himself because Payton schooled him.
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