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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

The O'Connell offense just doesn't work anymore. Murray looked like dog shite.

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ORIGINAL: Lars

Kyler is 18/34 (52.9%), 186 yds, 1 TD, 2 INT, and 3 sacks, 54.3 rating

Can you objectively say that is better than what we were seeing from JJM?

Given his pedigree, experience and "professionalism", he should be much better than that in the KOC-KAO.

KOC didn't want JJM for whatever his reasons. BUt there is NO WAY you can convince me it was about on-field production cuz what we have been getting ****ing sucks.

PS - give Kyler a shitload of WR/TE drops and Skule et al at LT, too.....

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Because the 35-year-old — who signed to the practice squad late in training camp — was elevated to the active roster on game day for each of the first three weeks, Minnesota had to decide this week whether or not they were going to sign him to the active roster or let him go.

Not only has Van Noy been elevated for the Vikings’ first three games this season, he’s actually been on the field for 28% of the team’s defensive snaps, to this point. In total, he’s collected 7 tackles, 1.5 sacks and 4 tackles for loss, even logging a start in Week 1.

Minnesota Vikings
@Vikings
The #Vikings have announced the following roster moves
- Signed QB Max Brosmer and OLB Kyle Van Noy to the active roster
- Placed TE Josh Oliver on IR

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ORIGINAL: marty

You were at the practices?

If you're just going by reports from people that saw them everyday, Murray was the better QB most camp. JJ had one really good day where he outplayed Murray and then immediately regressed and never did it again or built off of it - and that was well before Murray was named starter.

I was basing it off of several people that were reporting at the practices, and their opinion doesn't jibe with your assessment. McCarthy and Murray were either both bad, or were taking turns back and forth with one being better than the other. It was clear on some plays that Murray's height was a problem, and was part of the reason McCarthy was having better days than him.

The last few practices just before Murray was named the starter, were some of Murray's worst days, while McCarthy was either the same as Murray, or better, never worse. Momentum had seemed to go in McCarthy's way when Murray was suddenly named the starter. The minute Murray was named the starter he has a near perfect day, and plays much better.

None of this matters, I will defer to KOC, assume there must have been some more underlying issues, and will hope for the best with Murray. IF Murray isn't the ticket, I think Teasley will find a serviceable QB next year.

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ORIGINAL: marty

I was right according to several eyewitness accounts, but I am saying it doesn't matter, because the team has moved on.

Hang onto that.

I wasn't repeatedly posting something because I just felt like it, I was repeatedly responding to your false statement that my true statement was allegedly false. And David tried making the same incorrect statement, which caused me to repeat and try to clarify for you two what had been reported, what I had read from several sources.

Alrighty then.

KOC saw the same things that several observers saw and reported on, and came to a decision that surprised several observers. They were surprised because it appeared to them that McCarthy had not closed the distance between himself and Murray, but had probably passed him up. You can be wrong and decide that most observers had seen that Murray had won, of it is your choice to create a fabrication to try and prove me wrong, since I am often right when you and I disagree, it's not surprising you might take that route, and then try to get others to back you, and try to bully me, and then name-call and misrepresent my opinions, you have done that many times in the past.

Not that it matters

There are about 30 people that closely monitor this board, so I don't care if someone hasn't responded in the last 8 hours.

Hmpf.

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ORIGINAL: marty

Sorry that bothers you Chris, then I have to conclude that you, Bill and David were only privy to one observer that seemed to be pro-Murray, while I had read from 3 or more observers that stated that McCarthy had closed the gap, and probably passed Murray (height being part of it), just at the moment when KOC made Murray the starter.

I would be happy to prove you 3 wrong, and others if they also want to chime in and say that what I am saying was reported on this by several sources isn't true, I am not sure I want to waste a bunch of time trying to locate either the writings, or interviews, or podcasts comments to find these.

Maybe I should waste my time, since there are now 3 people that think it's so important. I don't think it's very important, as the team has moved on from McCarthy.

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ORIGINAL: marty

Bill didn't call anything out, he and Chris and David have an opinion that is different than what I got from several people that had watched the practices.

Chris, it is YOU that is dragging it out.

This was a conversation, and I pointed some correct things about Bill and his bullying, and you are adding to this.

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ORIGINAL: marty

Bill, you are the one that bullies people, puts them on the defense, and tries to get others to back you.

I wasn't talking about people on this board that would agree with the points I was making about the QB situation, I was mentioning people that had commented in podcasts or in writing, that had been at the practices.

I never repeatedly called you a pussy Bill, I was describing behavior that you had appeared to be doing, but then you actually took a stand, or clarified your stand, maybe because you didn't want to appear to be what I had been describing?

No projection involved, I have not been doing the things Bill has done in the past, and I am once again pointing out that he is trying to do it once again, and is failing.