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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

The good-bad-ugly:

Good:

The D overall
ST's (minus Hekker)
Hock
Kyler in the 4th
Turner
KVNoy


Bad:

Orange (dude, love the hustle but you can't take that chance on the OOB hit)
The big plays the D continues to give up, even if they got away with it today
J Jones (not his fault but WTF are we using him as a "down field" threat?)
KOC's first 3 quarters of playcalling
A TO after a dead ball penalty and, btw, not the first time

Ugly:

Hekker's punting, holy cow
Penalties were ridiculous
Injuries again, especially along the OL
The ref (the guy that flipped his lid because Wilson was pushed in to him)

I rewatched the 2nd half (wanted to forget the first) and it wasn't as bad as we remember in real time. That said, we caught a lot of "breaks" or this game is a loss to a pretty bad team. I appreciate the assist, but I still don't see the Pace punt 'tip'. The TD callback because the dude was out and came back in was a great call, but it was obvious. So not counting that. Cashman 'glancing touch on the RB' was also really iffy.

All in all, did anyone see us 4-0 heading into NO? I sure didn't and Kyler's 4th quarter gives me some hope. Survive that and you come out of the break at 5-0. If you had no idea who the guy was and I told you, after 4 games, and our first 2 were from Wentz, our week 4 QB's stats were:

27/37 for 247 yards, no TO's and 90.7 rating, would you take it? There is no doubt he/KOC needs to get better, but this isn't a SB roster anyway so I'm just going to try and enjoy the little things. Hell, Jones looks like he has about 2 more carries in him before his leg falls off and there is nobody behind him. Teasley has a lot of work to do in the offseason. It's really a shame because the D and ST's are pretty damn good.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

I wonder if KOC’s offense is faltering so badly because he is over-tapering ‘his’ system to someone contradictory to dropback non-creative types like Cousins Darnold that fit so well. They were KOC regurgitators, Murray wants to spit out his own Murray cud.

Cousins worked but was not THE plan because of our outrageous financial relationship.

Darnold was not the plan. Or at least, Darnold was signed as a placeholder to buy time. Then he vastly outplayed expectations into Cousins type money … after we had already launched our grandiose cap friendly draft plan.

Bargain non-franchisable Murray was brought in as the probable temporary starter … with a shotty, up and down resumé that was still much stronger than Darnold’s but … it was made purely on the physical characteristics that Cousins Darnold are missing.

Now, doctoral candidate KOC has to rewrite the thesis he made to get him into the program.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

The good-bad-ugly:

Good:

The D overall
ST's (minus Hekker)
Hock
Kyler in the 4th
Turner
KVNoy


Bad:

Orange (dude, love the hustle but you can't take that chance on the OOB hit)
The big plays the D continues to give up, even if they got away with it today
J Jones (not his fault but WTF are we using him as a "down field" threat?)
KOC's first 3 quarters of playcalling
A TO after a dead ball penalty and, btw, not the first time

Ugly:

Hekker's punting, holy cow
Penalties were ridiculous
Injuries again, especially along the OL
The ref (the guy that flipped his lid because Wilson was pushed in to him)

I rewatched the 2nd half (wanted to forget the first) and it wasn't as bad as we remember in real time. That said, we caught a lot of "breaks" or this game is a loss to a pretty bad team. I appreciate the assist, but I still don't see the Pace punt 'tip'. The TD callback because the dude was out and came back in was a great call, but it was obvious. So not counting that. Cashman 'glancing touch on the RB' was also really iffy.

All in all, did anyone see us 4-0 heading into NO? I sure didn't and Kyler's 4th quarter gives me some hope. Survive that and you come out of the break at 5-0. If you had no idea who the guy was and I told you, after 4 games, and our first 2 were from Wentz, our week 4 QB's stats were:

27/37 for 247 yards, no TO's and 90.7 rating, would you take it? There is no doubt he/KOC needs to get better, but this isn't a SB roster anyway so I'm just going to try and enjoy the little things. Hell, Jones looks like he has about 2 more carries in him before his leg falls off and there is nobody behind him. Teasley has a lot of work to do in the offseason. It's really a shame because the D and ST's are pretty damn good.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

The good-bad-ugly:

Good:

The D overall
ST's (minus Hekker)
Hock
Kyler in the 4th
Turner
KVNoy


Bad:

Orange (dude, love the hustle but you can't take that chance on the OOB hit)
The big plays the D continues to give up, even if they got away with it today
J Jones (not his fault but WTF are we using him as a "down field" threat?)
KOC's first 3 quarters of playcalling
A TO after a dead ball penalty and, btw, not the first time

Ugly:

Hekker's punting, holy cow
Penalties were ridiculous
Injuries again, especially along the OL
The ref (the guy that flipped his lid because Wilson was pushed in to him)

I rewatched the 2nd half (wanted to forget the first) and it wasn't as bad as we remember in real time. That said, we caught a lot of "breaks" or this game is a loss to a pretty bad team. I appreciate the assist, but I still don't see the Pace punt 'tip'. The TD callback because the dude was out and came back in was a great call, but it was obvious. So not counting that. Cashman 'glancing touch on the RB' was also really iffy.

All in all, did anyone see us 4-0 heading into NO? I sure didn't and Kyler's 4th quarter gives me some hope. Survive that and you come out of the break at 5-0. If you had no idea who the guy was and I told you, after 4 games, and our first 2 were from Wentz, our week 4 QB's stats were:

27/37 for 247 yards, no TO's and 90.7 rating, would you take it? There is no doubt he/KOC needs to get better, but this isn't a SB roster anyway so I'm just going to try and enjoy the little things. Hell, Jones looks like he has about 2 more carries in him before his leg falls off and there is nobody behind him. Teasley has a lot of work to do in the offseason. It's really a shame because the D and ST's are pretty damn good.

Good post Jeff. Agree Murray's 4th quarter gives some hope. A little bit. That's literally all that is left.

But considering the opponent, Murray's stats are not all that. Didn't even break 7 ypa (6.6). No TDs is simply bad. 73% completion percentage is good until you peel back the onion. The previous two QBs went 40-46, 533 yards , 4 TDs, 1 Int. Cousins wasn't all that in game 1 but that was his first game with a new team but he still put up 3 TDs.

But again, a sliver of hope. What else is can a person do besides that.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

I'm hearing Donovan Jackson is gonna be out for the season

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
The NFL confirmed today that line judge Jeff Seeman has been suspended for two games and referee Adrian Hill has been suspended for one game, each for an instance of unprofessional conduct toward a player in Sunday’s Arizona-New York Giants (Seeman) and Miami-Minnesota games (Hill). The suspensions were issued by NFL Vice President of Officiating Ramon George.

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

Dallas Turner with 2 sacks, 5 pressures, 1 TFL and 1 FF.

quote:

Kneel-down fumbles are exceptionally rare: analysis of over 5000 NFL kneel-downs since 2000 found zero fumbles, with the play design (QB kneeling immediately, backs flanking) minimizing risk to near zero; lost fumbles leading to defeat are virtually unheard of.

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

More ammunition that Hock did exactly the right thing.

quote:

Kneel-down fumbles are exceptionally rare: analysis of over 5000 NFL kneel-downs since 2000 found zero fumbles, with the play design (QB kneeling immediately, backs flanking) minimizing risk to near zero; lost fumbles leading to defeat are virtually unheard of.

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

Amateur football. It’s literally never happened in the Pro Game.

The Vikings have massive injuries on both sides of the ball and people wanted Hockenson to extend the game by running in a feel good score? Why expose the defense to unnecessary plays? Take the knee. Take the win. 100% the right move.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

Amateur football. It’s literally never happened in the Pro Game.

The Vikings have massive injuries on both sides of the ball and people wanted Hockenson to extend the game by running in a feel good score? Why expose the defense to unnecessary plays? Take the knee. Take the win. 100% the right move.

As much as the offense sucks and I want to see a damn touchdown it was absolutely the right move. Also saved Hockenson from a hit even though he scores fairly easily. No question it was the smart play.