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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 8:22:05 AM   
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14-3

No. Cousins was 13-4 when he was here.

Drew Lock = Darnold
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 8:22:27 AM   
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I am talking about playoff games, like where he checked down on 4th and long.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 8:24:15 AM   
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Mark

I am talking about playoff games, like where he checked down on 4th and long.

Who is the last QB to win a playoff game for Vikings?
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 8:24:32 AM   
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My .02

This team has one opportunity to have a chance to run to the big game and win it all. With this offense they have NO CHANCE

The Defense was again, BALLIN. They were kicking ass. Holding Josh Allen in relative check...they weren't gaining any traction. Like usual. the defense was its normal dominant self until late in the game when they got gassed.

Our offense is a coach killer. The execution is terrible. With the skill players we have we should be able to keep moving the ball, getting first downs, control time of possession and score (even if it is more often than not FGs). But we can't even do that now. Too many turn overs. Too many 3 and outs. For as much energy as the defense has flying around making plays etc...the offense looks listless. Flat. and ineffective.

I am convinced Kyler Murray is NOT the answer.
This game convinced me beyond all doubt that Wentz is not either. Those INTs and the almost one as well were just terrible throws. I stopped watching before they put Brosmer in, and I'm sure he moved the ball well against a prevent defense....but he's not the answer either.

If this team has any hope of making the playoffs and making a deep significant run, they have until 3pm today to address the most important position on the field.

It just makes me sick that a defense THIS GOOD, is being wasted because our offense is THIS BAD.

And again. It shouldn't be. And considering just how talented our skill players are, it shouldn't be. We just don't have a QB that can execute.

So, Messasge to Nolan Teasley, and KOC....If you do not acquire a new QB by 3pm today, you may as well sell off the skill players like Addison, Hockenson, and some defensive guys that will be FAs after this year like Van Ginkel, Cashman and Redmond....Blow this shit up. Sell of JJ even. You are slamming the window of opportunity shut so hard the glass is breaking. You may as well get as many draft picks as possible to rebuild this thing quickly.

I have to say if they just were outplayed and lost the game by a FG or so, and the offense looked competent I wouldn't give up. but this offense is pathetic. Something HAS to change. I don't know what that is, but I think KOC needs to try something different. Maybel let someone else call the game. ? I don't know if that will help. but I do know with our current QB situation we have no hope.

They have literally until 3pm this afternoon local time to save any hope for this season.

I'm not saying KOC doesn't have to go. Maybe it is time.

But, Kurt Warner shows us every week how our QBs are missing big chunk plays. Not just a couple. A lot. Either they don't see it or they throw a bad pass.

Am I saying trade a 1st rounder for Cousins? No. Teasley needs that to find QBOTF. But, a 3rd for Cousins is not unreasonable. He has shown he can run KOC's offense efficiently.


Sadly, this is why we have re-treads on the roster at QB. These guys struggle to go through reads, reading defenses, etc.
Cousins would be the one guy who could probably do this, but he is physically shot.
Really all he does in Vegas is throw lob ball to Bowers.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 8:27:33 AM   
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It doesn't matter what they do. This offense isn't improving until KOC Wes and McCown are gone.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 8:29:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

My .02

This team has one opportunity to have a chance to run to the big game and win it all. With this offense they have NO CHANCE

The Defense was again, BALLIN. They were kicking ass. Holding Josh Allen in relative check...they weren't gaining any traction. Like usual. the defense was its normal dominant self until late in the game when they got gassed.

Our offense is a coach killer. The execution is terrible. With the skill players we have we should be able to keep moving the ball, getting first downs, control time of possession and score (even if it is more often than not FGs). But we can't even do that now. Too many turn overs. Too many 3 and outs. For as much energy as the defense has flying around making plays etc...the offense looks listless. Flat. and ineffective.

I am convinced Kyler Murray is NOT the answer.
This game convinced me beyond all doubt that Wentz is not either. Those INTs and the almost one as well were just terrible throws. I stopped watching before they put Brosmer in, and I'm sure he moved the ball well against a prevent defense....but he's not the answer either.

If this team has any hope of making the playoffs and making a deep significant run, they have until 3pm today to address the most important position on the field.

It just makes me sick that a defense THIS GOOD, is being wasted because our offense is THIS BAD.

And again. It shouldn't be. And considering just how talented our skill players are, it shouldn't be. We just don't have a QB that can execute.

So, Messasge to Nolan Teasley, and KOC....If you do not acquire a new QB by 3pm today, you may as well sell off the skill players like Addison, Hockenson, and some defensive guys that will be FAs after this year like Van Ginkel, Cashman and Redmond....Blow this shit up. Sell of JJ even. You are slamming the window of opportunity shut so hard the glass is breaking. You may as well get as many draft picks as possible to rebuild this thing quickly.

I have to say if they just were outplayed and lost the game by a FG or so, and the offense looked competent I wouldn't give up. but this offense is pathetic. Something HAS to change. I don't know what that is, but I think KOC needs to try something different. Maybel let someone else call the game. ? I don't know if that will help. but I do know with our current QB situation we have no hope.

They have literally until 3pm this afternoon local time to save any hope for this season.

I'm not saying KOC doesn't have to go. Maybe it is time.

But, Kurt Warner shows us every week how our QBs are missing big chunk plays. Not just a couple. A lot. Either they don't see it or they throw a bad pass.

Am I saying trade a 1st rounder for Cousins? No. Teasley needs that to find QBOTF. But, a 3rd for Cousins is not unreasonable. He has shown he can run KOC's offense efficiently.


Sadly, this is why we have re-treads on the roster at QB. These guys struggle to go through reads, reading defenses, etc.
Cousins would be the one guy who could probably do this, but he is physically shot.
Really all he does in Vegas is throw lob ball to Bowers.

Is it going to be a long term answer? No. Just for the remainder of this season.

Cousins was winning games with below average WRs and an all world TE. And a horrible defense.

I'd like to buy low on Herbert but I think dead money would be too much for Chargers.

Speaking of Chargers, I'm sure I could find alot of posts from arm chair GMs in here who said we missed the boat by not getting Harbaugh.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 8:35:19 AM   
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14-3


How is Darnold w/o Kenneth Walker?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 8:37:03 AM   
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ESPN Cleveland is throwing this out.
Shadeur Sanders?

I don't mind it.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 8:43:08 AM   
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ESPN Cleveland is throwing this out.
Shadeur Sanders?

I don't mind it.

Another guy that likes to stand around and get sacked. I wouldn't give up more than a 6th to try it.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 8:52:21 AM   
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Rattler
Mariota
GSmith
Sanders

Nothing more than a 5th for these guys.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 8:52:21 AM   
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Not seeing a QB savior ride in today, not because of any inaction by Teasley but because none are out there.

Fixing a historically bad offense is going to require a lot of work. Assuming there is no miracle over the next 6 hours, what will Teasley do over the offseason to, as a minimum, fix the QB position.

At least incessant talk of forking over picks and big cap for a RB has been shoved into the waste bin.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 8:59:52 AM   
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Rattler
Mariota
GSmith
Sanders

Nothing more than a 5th for these guys.


In the vein of Teasley doing something, anything at QB sure. But realistically running out the Bum of the Week won't move the needle. I hope we can somehow acquire more picks rather than fritter them away... because Teasley is going to need them.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 9:09:25 AM   
Richard Neussendorfer

 

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Rattler
Mariota
GSmith
Sanders

Nothing more than a 5th for these guys.


In the vein of Teasley doing something, anything at QB sure. But realistically running out the Bum of the Week won't move the needle. I hope we can somehow acquire more picks rather than fritter them away... because Teasley is going to need them.

Might not be a bad idea to trade Jefferson while you're at it. The value is going down for him daily and
he's going to be expensive. If someone gives you 2 firsts you jump all over it.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 9:11:26 AM   
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Firing KOC now, and having Flores be the HC the rest of the season, gives you a trial run with Flores as HC.

Just start by bringing in an offensive coordinator. O'Connell is not competent.

It's the same offense he has been running (poorly) for the past three years. Long, developing plays that are hard to run with poor protection. He's trying to fit a square peg into a round hole and appears to be too stubborn to change.

I can't even remember the last time I saw a slot receiver catch a ball over the middle for a pass. There is almost no creativity. We have no identity.

< Message edited by Brad H -- 11/10/2026 9:12:32 AM >


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 9:15:29 AM   
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Firing KOC now, and having Flores be the HC the rest of the season, gives you a trial run with Flores as HC.

Just start by bringing in an offensive coordinator. O'Connell is not competent.

It's the same offense he has been running (poorly) for the past three years. Long, developing plays that are hard to run with poor protection. He's trying to fit a square peg into a round hole and appears to be too stubborn to change.

I can't even remember the last time I saw a slot receiver catch a ball over the middle for a pass. There is almost no creativity. We have no identity.

Wentz was averaging 3.5 seconds time to throw last night. Not a protection issue.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 9:15:35 AM   
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14-3


How is Darnold w/o Kenneth Walker?

He's a little heavier because he's got a ring on his finger.

It's not about Darnold. It's not about Murray. It's not about Danny Jones. It's not about Carson Wentz.

Kevin O'Connell is not good. He keeps doing the same thing and expecting different results. He offers zero change in the offense from week-to-week.

The coach has to out his guys in a position to win. He is not doing that and hasn't been for the past three years.

< Message edited by Brad H -- 11/10/2026 9:19:27 AM >


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 9:19:04 AM   
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14-3


How is Darnold w/o Kenneth Walker?

He's a little heavier because he's got a ring on his finger.

It's not about Darnold. It's not about Murray. It's not about Danny Jones. It's not about Carson Wentz.

Kevin O'Connell is not good. He keeps doing the same thing and expecting different results. He offers zero change in the offense from week-to-week.

I've been pointing it out for years. I'm glad people finally see it.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 9:21:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Brad H

14-3


How is Darnold w/o Kenneth Walker?

He's a little heavier because he's got a ring on his finger.

It's not about Darnold. It's not about Murray. It's not about Danny Jones. It's not about Carson Wentz.

Kevin O'Connell is not good. He keeps doing the same thing and expecting different results. He offers zero change in the offense from week-to-week.

I've been pointing it out for years. I'm glad people finally see it.

ZERO in-game adjustments.

They talked to him after halftime and he said gobbly gook. "Carson Wentz is an experienced veteran. We just need to get him comfortable."

WHAT?

How about changing the offense a bit? The long developing routes haven't worked for approximately 30 straight games now.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 9:22:21 AM   
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14-3



Yeah yeah Yeah Brad

A little hint. I TOLD YA SO isn't helping.

What is the solution to our current problem?

You can bury all your I TOLD YA SO's, they are useless at this time.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 9:23:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

14-3


How is Darnold w/o Kenneth Walker?

He's a little heavier because he's got a ring on his finger.

It's not about Darnold. It's not about Murray. It's not about Danny Jones. It's not about Carson Wentz.

Kevin O'Connell is not good. He keeps doing the same thing and expecting different results. He offers zero change in the offense from week-to-week.

I've been pointing it out for years. I'm glad people finally see it.

ZERO in-game adjustments.

They talked to him after halftime and he said gobbly gook. "Carson Wentz is an experienced veteran. We just need to get him comfortable."

WHAT?

How about changing the offense a bit? The long developing routes haven't worked for approximately 30 straight games now.

All the routes are long developing with wideouts making multiple cuts. Even after his 2nd move Jefferson is usually still blanketed. No separation.

Addison gets open. A lot.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 9:24:39 AM   
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Yeah yeah Yeah Brad

A little hint. I TOLD YA SO isn't helping.

What is the solution to our current problem?

You can bury all your I TOLD YA SO's, they are useless at this time.

Kevin O'Connell is the problem. It wasn't Sam Darnold. It wasn't Danny Jones. It wasn't Kyler Murray or Carson Wentz (although they both suck beyond belief).

I made a prediction last week to my buddy from Minnesota. The Vikings will be the first team to start 6-0 and finish in last place. I stand by it.

Darnold went 14-3 with this clown. That should tell you everything you need to know.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 9:25:55 AM   
Richard Neussendorfer

 

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

14-3



Yeah yeah Yeah Brad

A little hint. I TOLD YA SO isn't helping.

What is the solution to our current problem?

You can bury all your I TOLD YA SO's, they are useless at this time.

Kevin O'Connell is the problem. It wasn't Sam Darnold. It wasn't Danny Jones. It wasn't Kyler Murray or Carson Wentz (although they both suck beyond belief).

I made a prediction last week to my buddy from Minnesota. The Vikings will be the first team to start 6-0 and finish in last place. I stand by it.

They'll be in last place after this week more than likely.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 9:26:32 AM   
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ESPN fellas think they need to bring in a QB that is familiar with the system, which makes sense. That's Jones and Cousins. Schefter says there has been zero talk re Cousins. So that leaves Jones. But then the only reason you trade for him is thinking he can QB a deep playoff run. If it's just to make the playoffs, Murray might be able to do that. So ultimately, Jones does not make sense.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 9:27:09 AM   
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I have been saying for four years that the only reason O'Connell is still picking up a paycheck is Flores. Without him, the Vikings would have lost the game by six touchdowns last night.

The fact that the entire league has somehow avoided hiring Flores as a head coach is a testament to racism still being alive and well in this country. The guy went 8-1 in his last nine games with the Dolphins and somehow got fired. How have the Dolphins been doing since?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 9:36:49 AM   
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Vikings running backs Aaron Jones and Jordan Mason combined for 51 yards on 11 carries. That equates to 4.6 yards per carry, but instead we kept dropping Wentz back into the pocket. The problem is the coach and until we fix that we are toast.
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