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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 10:18:34 AM   
Bill Johanesen


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Bottomline, we're up shit creek without a paddle.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 10:18:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

This is all his qbs and his system. There's nowhere left for KOC to hide.



You can't throw a 5 yard pass to Mason not at his feet?
You can't throw a swing pass to JJ that was uncatchable?

The example on Price where he was wide open was an 8-10 yard pass.

Wentz had a bunch of easy throws he couldn't complete.

And who approved these qbs for this season? Who advocated for them? Who was so sure of it they traded away their first round pick?

When do the excuses run out for you Phil? This is entirely on KOC. He even threw the last GM under the bus. There's nowhere left to go.


Zero excuses.....players perform.
I knew going into the Detroit game it was going to be tough 2 games.

Wentz is a backup but he was beyond horrible......a coach can't fix that as he couldn't hit on 5 yard passes even. Firing KOC at 6-2?

Get him Sanders or Kirk.

Ill ask you a simple question. Are you 100% sure KOC made the QB decisions each year?

You don't think KOC had the biggest influence on who was at QB? Seriously? I don't expect them to fire KOC in season. If I'm the GM I'm trading Jefferson for 2 firsts and a 2nd or 3rd if there's any takers. This offense is a joke.


You do know he wanted Kirk, Sam and/or Jones to all stay. Are you sure?
Also Flores rejoiced when JJM was traded....he is an Asst Coach.

< Message edited by Phil Riewer -- 11/10/2026 10:19:53 AM >


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 10:19:42 AM   
Brad H


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

This is all his qbs and his system. There's nowhere left for KOC to hide.



You can't throw a 5 yard pass to Mason not at his feet?
You can't throw a swing pass to JJ that was uncatchable?

The example on Price where he was wide open was an 8-10 yard pass.

Wentz had a bunch of easy throws he couldn't complete.

And who approved these qbs for this season? Who advocated for them? Who was so sure of it they traded away their first round pick?

When do the excuses run out for you Phil? This is entirely on KOC. He even threw the last GM under the bus. There's nowhere left to go.


Zero excuses.....players perform.
I knew going into the Detroit game it was going to be tough 2 games.

Wentz is a backup but he was beyond horrible......a coach can't fix that as he couldn't hit on 5 yard passes even. Firing KOC at 6-2?

Get him Sanders or Kirk.

Ill ask you a simple question. Are you 100% sure KOC made the QB decisions each year?

You don't think KOC had the biggest influence on who was at QB? Seriously? I don't expect them to fire KOC in season. If I'm the GM I'm trading Jefferson for 2 firsts and a 2nd or 3rd if there's any takers. This offense is a joke.

I think we need to go in the opposite direction. Rather than bailing on Jefferson, I'd make a blockbuster trade for Justin Herbert. The window to win in the NFL can close quickly. The Vikings defense is very good.

Herbert is an elite talent. Kyler Murray and Carson Wentz have never been legitimate quarterbacks.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 10:20:49 AM   
Phil Riewer


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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

This is all his qbs and his system. There's nowhere left for KOC to hide.



You can't throw a 5 yard pass to Mason not at his feet?
You can't throw a swing pass to JJ that was uncatchable?

The example on Price where he was wide open was an 8-10 yard pass.

Wentz had a bunch of easy throws he couldn't complete.

And who approved these qbs for this season? Who advocated for them? Who was so sure of it they traded away their first round pick?

When do the excuses run out for you Phil? This is entirely on KOC. He even threw the last GM under the bus. There's nowhere left to go.


Zero excuses.....players perform.
I knew going into the Detroit game it was going to be tough 2 games.

Wentz is a backup but he was beyond horrible......a coach can't fix that as he couldn't hit on 5 yard passes even. Firing KOC at 6-2?

Get him Sanders or Kirk.

Ill ask you a simple question. Are you 100% sure KOC made the QB decisions each year?

You don't think KOC had the biggest influence on who was at QB? Seriously? I don't expect them to fire KOC in season. If I'm the GM I'm trading Jefferson for 2 firsts and a 2nd or 3rd if there's any takers. This offense is a joke.

I think we need to go in the opposite direction. Rather than bailing on Jefferson, I'd make a blockbuster trade for Justin Herbert. The window to win in the NFL can close quickly. The Vikings defense is very good.

Herbert is an elite talent. Kyler Murray and Carson Wentz have never been legitimate quarterbacks.


Herbert has been totally horrible this year. Hard to give up multiple 1sts for what little he has done so far.

Herbert is a talent that has never won.

< Message edited by Phil Riewer -- 11/10/2026 10:21:58 AM >


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 10:22:37 AM   
Brad H


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Bottomline, we're up shit creek without a paddle.

I don't know if it is that bad. It looks ugly right now. Lets not forget, the Bills are a pretty good team.

You gotta have a legit QB to win. It's time to pull a rabbit out of a hat. Sitting and hoping things get better will not solve the offensive problems.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 10:23:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

This is all his qbs and his system. There's nowhere left for KOC to hide.



You can't throw a 5 yard pass to Mason not at his feet?
You can't throw a swing pass to JJ that was uncatchable?

The example on Price where he was wide open was an 8-10 yard pass.

Wentz had a bunch of easy throws he couldn't complete.

And who approved these qbs for this season? Who advocated for them? Who was so sure of it they traded away their first round pick?

When do the excuses run out for you Phil? This is entirely on KOC. He even threw the last GM under the bus. There's nowhere left to go.


Zero excuses.....players perform.
I knew going into the Detroit game it was going to be tough 2 games.

Wentz is a backup but he was beyond horrible......a coach can't fix that as he couldn't hit on 5 yard passes even. Firing KOC at 6-2?

Get him Sanders or Kirk.

Ill ask you a simple question. Are you 100% sure KOC made the QB decisions each year?

You don't think KOC had the biggest influence on who was at QB? Seriously? I don't expect them to fire KOC in season. If I'm the GM I'm trading Jefferson for 2 firsts and a 2nd or 3rd if there's any takers. This offense is a joke.


You do know he wanted Kirk, Sam and/or Jones to all stay. Are you sure?
Also Flores rejoiced when JJM was traded....he is an Asst Coach.

We need a whole new coaching staff. Now the veil has been lifted and its all excuses with this guy. I'm totally on board with Phillips McClown and O'clownell be8ng gone. He can't blame Kwesi anymore. These are the guys HE wanted in the building this year. We had no GM to blame.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 10:25:57 AM   
Phil Riewer


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

This is all his qbs and his system. There's nowhere left for KOC to hide.



You can't throw a 5 yard pass to Mason not at his feet?
You can't throw a swing pass to JJ that was uncatchable?

The example on Price where he was wide open was an 8-10 yard pass.

Wentz had a bunch of easy throws he couldn't complete.

And who approved these qbs for this season? Who advocated for them? Who was so sure of it they traded away their first round pick?

When do the excuses run out for you Phil? This is entirely on KOC. He even threw the last GM under the bus. There's nowhere left to go.


Zero excuses.....players perform.
I knew going into the Detroit game it was going to be tough 2 games.

Wentz is a backup but he was beyond horrible......a coach can't fix that as he couldn't hit on 5 yard passes even. Firing KOC at 6-2?

Get him Sanders or Kirk.

Ill ask you a simple question. Are you 100% sure KOC made the QB decisions each year?

You don't think KOC had the biggest influence on who was at QB? Seriously? I don't expect them to fire KOC in season. If I'm the GM I'm trading Jefferson for 2 firsts and a 2nd or 3rd if there's any takers. This offense is a joke.


You do know he wanted Kirk, Sam and/or Jones to all stay. Are you sure?
Also Flores rejoiced when JJM was traded....he is an Asst Coach.

We need a whole new coaching staff. Now the veil has been lifted and its all excuses with this guy. I'm totally on board with Phillips McClown and O'clownell be8ng gone. He can't blame Kwesi anymore. These are the guys HE wanted in the building this year. We had no GM to blame.


6-2. You have been negative after every game.

Again you don't fire a coach at 6-2 and that poor of a performance by Wentz....uugh.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 10:26:02 AM   
Bill Johanesen


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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

This is all his qbs and his system. There's nowhere left for KOC to hide.



You can't throw a 5 yard pass to Mason not at his feet?
You can't throw a swing pass to JJ that was uncatchable?

The example on Price where he was wide open was an 8-10 yard pass.

Wentz had a bunch of easy throws he couldn't complete.

And who approved these qbs for this season? Who advocated for them? Who was so sure of it they traded away their first round pick?

When do the excuses run out for you Phil? This is entirely on KOC. He even threw the last GM under the bus. There's nowhere left to go.


Zero excuses.....players perform.
I knew going into the Detroit game it was going to be tough 2 games.

Wentz is a backup but he was beyond horrible......a coach can't fix that as he couldn't hit on 5 yard passes even. Firing KOC at 6-2?

Get him Sanders or Kirk.

Ill ask you a simple question. Are you 100% sure KOC made the QB decisions each year?

You don't think KOC had the biggest influence on who was at QB? Seriously? I don't expect them to fire KOC in season. If I'm the GM I'm trading Jefferson for 2 firsts and a 2nd or 3rd if there's any takers. This offense is a joke.

I think we need to go in the opposite direction. Rather than bailing on Jefferson, I'd make a blockbuster trade for Justin Herbert. The window to win in the NFL can close quickly. The Vikings defense is very good.

Herbert is an elite talent. Kyler Murray and Carson Wentz have never been legitimate quarterbacks.


Well, he's not a FA until 2030 so that's a positive. His cap hit from 2027-2029 is $190 million.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 10:26:38 AM   
Brad H


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

This is all his qbs and his system. There's nowhere left for KOC to hide.



You can't throw a 5 yard pass to Mason not at his feet?
You can't throw a swing pass to JJ that was uncatchable?

The example on Price where he was wide open was an 8-10 yard pass.

Wentz had a bunch of easy throws he couldn't complete.

And who approved these qbs for this season? Who advocated for them? Who was so sure of it they traded away their first round pick?

When do the excuses run out for you Phil? This is entirely on KOC. He even threw the last GM under the bus. There's nowhere left to go.


Zero excuses.....players perform.
I knew going into the Detroit game it was going to be tough 2 games.

Wentz is a backup but he was beyond horrible......a coach can't fix that as he couldn't hit on 5 yard passes even. Firing KOC at 6-2?

Get him Sanders or Kirk.

Ill ask you a simple question. Are you 100% sure KOC made the QB decisions each year?

You don't think KOC had the biggest influence on who was at QB? Seriously? I don't expect them to fire KOC in season. If I'm the GM I'm trading Jefferson for 2 firsts and a 2nd or 3rd if there's any takers. This offense is a joke.

I think we need to go in the opposite direction. Rather than bailing on Jefferson, I'd make a blockbuster trade for Justin Herbert. The window to win in the NFL can close quickly. The Vikings defense is very good.

Herbert is an elite talent. Kyler Murray and Carson Wentz have never been legitimate quarterbacks.


Herbert has been totally horrible this year. Hard to give up multiple 1sts for what little he has done so far.

Herbert is a talent that has never won.

Have you watched any Charger games? The guy is getting killed every game. 31 sacks in eight games. Zero wide receivers worth a damned on the team. Not one!

That's a guy that would love a new home!

No chance he short-arms the tight end over the middle like Wentz did last night. That's a TD every time.

Herbert is a potential star. It's time to pull the trigger on a legitimate deal that could win a Super Bowl. The defense is there. The Chargers have shut down and the season is over. They are ripe!

< Message edited by Brad H -- 11/10/2026 10:29:19 AM >


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 10:28:56 AM   
Richard Neussendorfer

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

This is all his qbs and his system. There's nowhere left for KOC to hide.



You can't throw a 5 yard pass to Mason not at his feet?
You can't throw a swing pass to JJ that was uncatchable?

The example on Price where he was wide open was an 8-10 yard pass.

Wentz had a bunch of easy throws he couldn't complete.

And who approved these qbs for this season? Who advocated for them? Who was so sure of it they traded away their first round pick?

When do the excuses run out for you Phil? This is entirely on KOC. He even threw the last GM under the bus. There's nowhere left to go.


Zero excuses.....players perform.
I knew going into the Detroit game it was going to be tough 2 games.

Wentz is a backup but he was beyond horrible......a coach can't fix that as he couldn't hit on 5 yard passes even. Firing KOC at 6-2?

Get him Sanders or Kirk.

Ill ask you a simple question. Are you 100% sure KOC made the QB decisions each year?

You don't think KOC had the biggest influence on who was at QB? Seriously? I don't expect them to fire KOC in season. If I'm the GM I'm trading Jefferson for 2 firsts and a 2nd or 3rd if there's any takers. This offense is a joke.


You do know he wanted Kirk, Sam and/or Jones to all stay. Are you sure?
Also Flores rejoiced when JJM was traded....he is an Asst Coach.

We need a whole new coaching staff. Now the veil has been lifted and its all excuses with this guy. I'm totally on board with Phillips McClown and O'clownell be8ng gone. He can't blame Kwesi anymore. These are the guys HE wanted in the building this year. We had no GM to blame.


6-2. You have been negative after every game.

Again you don't fire a coach at 6-2 and that poor of a performance by Wentz....uugh.

Are you really this obtuse? I never said to fire him now. It's time to lay the ground work for the future. Start trading overrated and overpriced players for picks.

You really think Nolan is going to not want to get his players and his coach in here next year? A Geno Smith is probably the most you can expect from today's dealings.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 10:29:11 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

This is all his qbs and his system. There's nowhere left for KOC to hide.



You can't throw a 5 yard pass to Mason not at his feet?
You can't throw a swing pass to JJ that was uncatchable?

The example on Price where he was wide open was an 8-10 yard pass.

Wentz had a bunch of easy throws he couldn't complete.

And who approved these qbs for this season? Who advocated for them? Who was so sure of it they traded away their first round pick?

When do the excuses run out for you Phil? This is entirely on KOC. He even threw the last GM under the bus. There's nowhere left to go.


Zero excuses.....players perform.
I knew going into the Detroit game it was going to be tough 2 games.

Wentz is a backup but he was beyond horrible......a coach can't fix that as he couldn't hit on 5 yard passes even. Firing KOC at 6-2?

Get him Sanders or Kirk.

Ill ask you a simple question. Are you 100% sure KOC made the QB decisions each year?

You don't think KOC had the biggest influence on who was at QB? Seriously? I don't expect them to fire KOC in season. If I'm the GM I'm trading Jefferson for 2 firsts and a 2nd or 3rd if there's any takers. This offense is a joke.

I think we need to go in the opposite direction. Rather than bailing on Jefferson, I'd make a blockbuster trade for Justin Herbert. The window to win in the NFL can close quickly. The Vikings defense is very good.

Herbert is an elite talent. Kyler Murray and Carson Wentz have never been legitimate quarterbacks.


Herbert has been totally horrible this year. Hard to give up multiple 1sts for what little he has done so far.

Herbert is a talent that has never won.

So was Darnold…until he did.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 10:31:25 AM   
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Herbert is a generational talent. And yet, we have people suggesting Geno Smith. And we wonder why we don't win.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 10:33:03 AM   
Phil Riewer


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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

This is all his qbs and his system. There's nowhere left for KOC to hide.



You can't throw a 5 yard pass to Mason not at his feet?
You can't throw a swing pass to JJ that was uncatchable?

The example on Price where he was wide open was an 8-10 yard pass.

Wentz had a bunch of easy throws he couldn't complete.

And who approved these qbs for this season? Who advocated for them? Who was so sure of it they traded away their first round pick?

When do the excuses run out for you Phil? This is entirely on KOC. He even threw the last GM under the bus. There's nowhere left to go.


Zero excuses.....players perform.
I knew going into the Detroit game it was going to be tough 2 games.

Wentz is a backup but he was beyond horrible......a coach can't fix that as he couldn't hit on 5 yard passes even. Firing KOC at 6-2?

Get him Sanders or Kirk.

Ill ask you a simple question. Are you 100% sure KOC made the QB decisions each year?

You don't think KOC had the biggest influence on who was at QB? Seriously? I don't expect them to fire KOC in season. If I'm the GM I'm trading Jefferson for 2 firsts and a 2nd or 3rd if there's any takers. This offense is a joke.


You do know he wanted Kirk, Sam and/or Jones to all stay. Are you sure?
Also Flores rejoiced when JJM was traded....he is an Asst Coach.

We need a whole new coaching staff. Now the veil has been lifted and its all excuses with this guy. I'm totally on board with Phillips McClown and O'clownell be8ng gone. He can't blame Kwesi anymore. These are the guys HE wanted in the building this year. We had no GM to blame.


6-2. You have been negative after every game.

Again you don't fire a coach at 6-2 and that poor of a performance by Wentz....uugh.

Are you really this obtuse? I never said to fire him now. It's time to lay the ground work for the future. Start trading overrated and overpriced players for picks.

You really think Nolan is going to not want to get his players and his coach in here next year? A Geno Smith is probably the most you can expect from today's dealings.


Obtuse?
Maybe look back at the game threads....maybe you were joking?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 10:33:53 AM   
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Herbert is a generational talent. And yet, we have people suggesting Geno Smith. And we wonder why we don't win.

I'm certainly not. I wouldn't try to bring in anyone to this mess if I were GM. I'd set things up to have picks and a new coach next season.

Jefferson would be gone today if I could get multiple 1sts and a 2nd or maybe even 3rd. His value is only going down as he continues to play for us.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 10:34:42 AM   
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Herbert is a generational talent. And yet, we have people suggesting Geno Smith. And we wonder why we don't win.

Was at one time considered a generational talent. Sam Darnold we signed for 10 million and was also considered a generational talent at one time.
I am not suggesting Geno Smith.....I am also not suggesting trading away the farm for a QB with a broken left hand.

A solid business decision isn't trading for a 50 million a year QB who is bottom 3 in performance this year and has a broken hand.

JT/Pollard and Sanders. That I could go for.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 10:34:59 AM   
Richard Neussendorfer

 

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

This is all his qbs and his system. There's nowhere left for KOC to hide.



You can't throw a 5 yard pass to Mason not at his feet?
You can't throw a swing pass to JJ that was uncatchable?

The example on Price where he was wide open was an 8-10 yard pass.

Wentz had a bunch of easy throws he couldn't complete.

And who approved these qbs for this season? Who advocated for them? Who was so sure of it they traded away their first round pick?

When do the excuses run out for you Phil? This is entirely on KOC. He even threw the last GM under the bus. There's nowhere left to go.


Zero excuses.....players perform.
I knew going into the Detroit game it was going to be tough 2 games.

Wentz is a backup but he was beyond horrible......a coach can't fix that as he couldn't hit on 5 yard passes even. Firing KOC at 6-2?

Get him Sanders or Kirk.

Ill ask you a simple question. Are you 100% sure KOC made the QB decisions each year?

You don't think KOC had the biggest influence on who was at QB? Seriously? I don't expect them to fire KOC in season. If I'm the GM I'm trading Jefferson for 2 firsts and a 2nd or 3rd if there's any takers. This offense is a joke.


You do know he wanted Kirk, Sam and/or Jones to all stay. Are you sure?
Also Flores rejoiced when JJM was traded....he is an Asst Coach.

We need a whole new coaching staff. Now the veil has been lifted and its all excuses with this guy. I'm totally on board with Phillips McClown and O'clownell be8ng gone. He can't blame Kwesi anymore. These are the guys HE wanted in the building this year. We had no GM to blame.


6-2. You have been negative after every game.

Again you don't fire a coach at 6-2 and that poor of a performance by Wentz....uugh.

Are you really this obtuse? I never said to fire him now. It's time to lay the ground work for the future. Start trading overrated and overpriced players for picks.

You really think Nolan is going to not want to get his players and his coach in here next year? A Geno Smith is probably the most you can expect from today's dealings.


Obtuse?
Maybe look back at the game threads....maybe you were joking?

I'm sure the GM has already made that decision. If they make no moves today you know he's already going to.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 10:37:41 AM   
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This is all his qbs and his system. There's nowhere left for KOC to hide.



You can't throw a 5 yard pass to Mason not at his feet?
You can't throw a swing pass to JJ that was uncatchable?

The example on Price where he was wide open was an 8-10 yard pass.

Wentz had a bunch of easy throws he couldn't complete.

And who approved these qbs for this season? Who advocated for them? Who was so sure of it they traded away their first round pick?

When do the excuses run out for you Phil? This is entirely on KOC. He even threw the last GM under the bus. There's nowhere left to go.


Zero excuses.....players perform.
I knew going into the Detroit game it was going to be tough 2 games.

Wentz is a backup but he was beyond horrible......a coach can't fix that as he couldn't hit on 5 yard passes even. Firing KOC at 6-2?

Get him Sanders or Kirk.

Ill ask you a simple question. Are you 100% sure KOC made the QB decisions each year?

You don't think KOC had the biggest influence on who was at QB? Seriously? I don't expect them to fire KOC in season. If I'm the GM I'm trading Jefferson for 2 firsts and a 2nd or 3rd if there's any takers. This offense is a joke.


You do know he wanted Kirk, Sam and/or Jones to all stay. Are you sure?
Also Flores rejoiced when JJM was traded....he is an Asst Coach.

We need a whole new coaching staff. Now the veil has been lifted and its all excuses with this guy. I'm totally on board with Phillips McClown and O'clownell be8ng gone. He can't blame Kwesi anymore. These are the guys HE wanted in the building this year. We had no GM to blame.


6-2. You have been negative after every game.

Again you don't fire a coach at 6-2 and that poor of a performance by Wentz....uugh.

Are you really this obtuse? I never said to fire him now. It's time to lay the ground work for the future. Start trading overrated and overpriced players for picks.

You really think Nolan is going to not want to get his players and his coach in here next year? A Geno Smith is probably the most you can expect from today's dealings.


Obtuse?
Maybe look back at the game threads....maybe you were joking?

I'm sure the GM has already made that decision. If they make no moves today you know he's already going to.


I am not so sure....Shefter already knew last week who they were looking into.....no idea who. Rappaport also now.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 10:39:17 AM   
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We shall see Phil. The most i see them doing today is a bum like Geno for a very low pick.

Let's see if they stand pat.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 10:41:40 AM   
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Herbert is a generational talent. And yet, we have people suggesting Geno Smith. And we wonder why we don't win.

Was at one time considered a generational talent. Sam Darnold we signed for 10 million and was also considered a generational talent at one time.
I am not suggesting Geno Smith.....I am also not suggesting trading away the farm for a QB with a broken left hand.

A solid business decision isn't trading for a 50 million a year QB who is bottom 3 in performance this year and has a broken hand.

JT/Pollard and Sanders. That I could go for.

Sam Darnold has a ring. He had two straight 14-3 seasons. Someone figured out how to win with him when it mattered. Someone else didn't.

The Seahawks are still a very good team. We haven't heard the last of them this season. It's a 17-game season. Darnold has a new offensive coordinator, a new running back and the team now has a target on their back every game.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 10:43:54 AM   
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We shall see Phil. The most i see them doing today is a bum like Geno for a very low pick.

Let's see if they stand pat.

After last night the fans are going to be demanding change. Without something big, O'Connell is signing his own pink slip.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 10:45:06 AM   
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Herbert is a generational talent. And yet, we have people suggesting Geno Smith. And we wonder why we don't win.

Was at one time considered a generational talent. Sam Darnold we signed for 10 million and was also considered a generational talent at one time.
I am not suggesting Geno Smith.....I am also not suggesting trading away the farm for a QB with a broken left hand.

A solid business decision isn't trading for a 50 million a year QB who is bottom 3 in performance this year and has a broken hand.

JT/Pollard and Sanders. That I could go for.

Sam Darnold has a ring. He had two straight 14-3 seasons. Someone figured out how to win with him when it mattered. Someone else didn't.

The Seahawks are still a very good team. We haven't heard the last of them this season. It's a 17-game season. Darnold has a new offensive coordinator, a new running back and the team now has a target on their back every game.


Maybe you think they have unlimited salary cap when it came to Darnold and Herbert? The team you mentioned didn't keep the actual Super Bowl MVP who is only 26 and makes half of what Darnold makes. You know the MVP of KC so far this year.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 10:49:59 AM   
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Herbert is a generational talent. And yet, we have people suggesting Geno Smith. And we wonder why we don't win.

Was at one time considered a generational talent. Sam Darnold we signed for 10 million and was also considered a generational talent at one time.
I am not suggesting Geno Smith.....I am also not suggesting trading away the farm for a QB with a broken left hand.

A solid business decision isn't trading for a 50 million a year QB who is bottom 3 in performance this year and has a broken hand.

JT/Pollard and Sanders. That I could go for.

Sam Darnold has a ring. He had two straight 14-3 seasons. Someone figured out how to win with him when it mattered. Someone else didn't.

The Seahawks are still a very good team. We haven't heard the last of them this season. It's a 17-game season. Darnold has a new offensive coordinator, a new running back and the team now has a target on their back every game.


Maybe you think they have unlimited salary cap when it came to Darnold and Herbert? The team you mentioned didn't keep the actual Super Bowl MVP who is only 26 and makes half of what Darnold makes. You know the MVP of KC so far this year.

Kenneth Walker is really good. You'll get no argument from me on that.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 10:53:31 AM   
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Trying to throw shade at a team that won the Super Bowl last season seems pointless.

If this team won just one I would finally know what it feels like. KOC isnt going to ever win a playoff game.

Thats my not so hot take.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 10:54:03 AM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 10:56:46 AM   
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Trying to throw shade at a team that won the Super Bowl last season seems pointless.

If this team won just one I would finally know what it feels like. KOC isnt going to ever win a playoff game.

Thats my not so hot take.

Precisely. They figured it out. We didn't.

It borders on stupid to throw shade at them.

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