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RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) - 9/4/2014 11:39:37 PM   
John Childress


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You can't go wrong with either guy

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RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) - 9/5/2014 8:49:38 AM   
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RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) - 9/5/2014 8:52:16 AM   
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RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) - 9/5/2014 10:18:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: hagar

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You can't be the best ever when you consistently underperform in the clutch

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Offense wins games, defense wins championships.


How come Montana didn't choke in the Super Bowl?

Denver had the #1 defense in the NFL in 1989

Joe put up 55 points

Shockingly other QBs are able to maintain or ELEVATE their performance in the biggest game

In 1988 he put 34 points on the #1 defense in the NFL - the Vikings.

The excuses for Peytons subpar SB performances have run out

I think Montana is the best QB in the biggest games that I've ever seen. I totally forgot about his SB win over the Vikings in 88 though.


John wasn't talking about a Super Bowl there, he had to go find an incidental stat to cherry pick. Hell, Luck put up 34 points on Seattle last year. See how that works?
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RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) - 9/5/2014 10:40:12 AM   
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Until Luck cuts down on his INTs in big games I go Wilson


7 INTs in 2 playoff games last year

That would make Ponder blush!

In 3 playoff games Luck has a 70.0 passer rating

Try calling Seattle and offering them Luck for Wilson and hold for the laughter

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RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) - 9/5/2014 11:40:51 AM   
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Whew!

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RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) - 9/5/2014 12:58:38 PM   
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RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) - 9/5/2014 1:11:37 PM   
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Thankfully, Berman just picked the Rams.
Whew!



Is he still alive?

It has been so many years since I watched the talking head pregame shows

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RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) - 9/5/2014 1:18:55 PM   
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Difference is Wilson's arrow is going up and no reason why it won't continue, the Seahawks looked great again last night and Percy can keep a defense off balance even with Ponder as QB. Plus the Seahawks have underrrated receivers, Baldwin, Kearse and Lockette are all very spry and make things happen after the catch, plus Miller is a underrated TE as well. Sanchez OTOH stagnated partly due to his supporting cast, coaching and his confidence being shattered by plays like the "butt fumble". I wouldn't be surprised if Sanchez can play just as well if not better than Foles if given the chance.
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RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) - 9/5/2014 1:46:22 PM   
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Wilson is like a rich man's Mark Sanchez to me. Sanchez was able to manage games and let his run game and defense do the rest. Wilson does much the same but he he's better on 3rd downs and avoids mistakes much much better than Sanchez. Plus the bonus of him running.

Difference is Wilson's arrow is going up and no reason why it won't continue, the Seahawks looked great again last night and Percy can keep a defense off balance even with Ponder as QB. Plus the Seahawks have underrrated receivers, Baldwin, Kearse and Lockette are all very spry and make things happen after the catch, plus Miller is a underrated TE as well. Sanchez OTOH stagnated partly due to his supporting cast, coaching and his confidence being shattered by plays like the "butt fumble". I wouldn't be surprised if Sanchez can play just as well if not better than Foles if given the chance.


Wow.

Wilson compares to a guy that's a 55% passer, throws as many picks as TDs and falls apart under pressure?

I know you think Luck is the greatest thing ever, but damn...
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RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) - 9/5/2014 1:49:27 PM   
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Wilson is like a rich man's Mark Sanchez to me. Sanchez was able to manage games and let his run game and defense do the rest. Wilson does much the same but he he's better on 3rd downs and avoids mistakes much much better than Sanchez. Plus the bonus of him running.

Difference is Wilson's arrow is going up and no reason why it won't continue, the Seahawks looked great again last night and Percy can keep a defense off balance even with Ponder as QB. Plus the Seahawks have underrrated receivers, Baldwin, Kearse and Lockette are all very spry and make things happen after the catch, plus Miller is a underrated TE as well. Sanchez OTOH stagnated partly due to his supporting cast, coaching and his confidence being shattered by plays like the "butt fumble". I wouldn't be surprised if Sanchez can play just as well if not better than Foles if given the chance.


Wow.

Wilson compares to a guy that's a 55% passer, throws as many picks as TDs and falls apart under pressure?

I know you think Luck is the greatest thing ever, but damn...


It is comical

Luck throws almost as many picks in 3 playoff games as Wilson does in a season yet Wilson is somehow Mark Sanchez

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RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) - 9/5/2014 1:57:49 PM   
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Wilson is like a rich man's Mark Sanchez to me. Sanchez was able to manage games and let his run game and defense do the rest. Wilson does much the same but he he's better on 3rd downs and avoids mistakes much much better than Sanchez. Plus the bonus of him running.

Difference is Wilson's arrow is going up and no reason why it won't continue, the Seahawks looked great again last night and Percy can keep a defense off balance even with Ponder as QB. Plus the Seahawks have underrrated receivers, Baldwin, Kearse and Lockette are all very spry and make things happen after the catch, plus Miller is a underrated TE as well. Sanchez OTOH stagnated partly due to his supporting cast, coaching and his confidence being shattered by plays like the "butt fumble". I wouldn't be surprised if Sanchez can play just as well if not better than Foles if given the chance.


Wow.

Wilson compares to a guy that's a 55% passer, throws as many picks as TDs and falls apart under pressure?

I know you think Luck is the greatest thing ever, but damn...


Did he really fall apart under pressure when he wasn't told to do too much vs the Colts, Pats and Chargers in the playoffs? IMO they've been both brought up to manage the games and not lose them and make the odd big play off play action. Wilson has taken that to the next level and executed more like Big Ben did during his early years with stat lines like 13/15 180 yds 2 TDs 0INT.

Wilson is primed to take next step no doubt and I have no doubt he will be very good to great, he has great intangibles like leadership and his football IQ is very high. I just don't think he's the second coming yet, his situation is more than favorable, just like it was for Sanchez early on and Big Ben as well.
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RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) - 9/5/2014 1:59:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: John Childress

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Wilson is like a rich man's Mark Sanchez to me. Sanchez was able to manage games and let his run game and defense do the rest. Wilson does much the same but he he's better on 3rd downs and avoids mistakes much much better than Sanchez. Plus the bonus of him running.

Difference is Wilson's arrow is going up and no reason why it won't continue, the Seahawks looked great again last night and Percy can keep a defense off balance even with Ponder as QB. Plus the Seahawks have underrrated receivers, Baldwin, Kearse and Lockette are all very spry and make things happen after the catch, plus Miller is a underrated TE as well. Sanchez OTOH stagnated partly due to his supporting cast, coaching and his confidence being shattered by plays like the "butt fumble". I wouldn't be surprised if Sanchez can play just as well if not better than Foles if given the chance.


Wow.

Wilson compares to a guy that's a 55% passer, throws as many picks as TDs and falls apart under pressure?

I know you think Luck is the greatest thing ever, but damn...


It is comical

Luck throws almost as many picks in 3 playoff games as Wilson does in a season yet Wilson is somehow Mark Sanchez


Let me know the next time Wilson's defense gives up 81 points in back to back playoffs games and has Trent Richardson as is starting RB.
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RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) - 9/5/2014 2:49:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		And somehow that causes you to throw the ball to the other guy?

Never heard more excuses in my life

Luck is a career 81 passer rating/ 70 in the playoffs

Did you even watch the games? Those were Favre like picks

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RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) - 9/5/2014 2:54:50 PM   
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And somehow that causes you to throw the ball to the other guy?

Never heard more excuses in my life

Luck is a career 81 passer rating/ 70 in the playoffs

Did you even watch the games? Those were Favre like picks




Did you even watch the game last night?

Instead of calling Wilson a "game manager"....how about "Short Right"? Those two pass attempts over 10 yards which were to the left sideline to wide open receivers were late and short. Both should have been intercepted. Then there was that pass where Zach Miller made an incredible play to knock an interception away.
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RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) - 9/5/2014 2:55:11 PM   
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I just looked up the Colts-Chiefs playoff game.

The Colts RB Donald Brown was running for 5 yards per carry
Knile Davis, the Chiefs RB, ran for 3.77 yards per carry

Luck - 3 INTs
Smith - 0 INTs

The next week, he ran for 3.7 ypc

The Patriots RB, Ridley, 3.7

Brady - 0 INTs
Luck - 4 INTs

AMazing how other QBs, with similar or worse running attacks, don't throw 7 picks in 2 games

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RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) - 9/5/2014 2:57:25 PM   
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And somehow that causes you to throw the ball to the other guy?

Never heard more excuses in my life

Luck is a career 81 passer rating/ 70 in the playoffs

Did you even watch the games? Those were Favre like picks




Did you even watch the game last night?

Instead of calling Wilson a "game manager"....how about "Short Right"? Those two pass attempts over 10 yards which were to the left sideline to wide open receivers were late and short. Both should have been intercepted. Then there was that pass where Zach Miller made an incredible play to knock an interception away.



I would call him SB winning QB who smoked Rodgers last night

Shall we compare the 2 QBs from last night or from the Super Bowl?

You have so much hate in you that you are grasping at straws

"Should have been..."

Let's stay based in reality

You are really making yourself look stupid with this post

Do you even know the final score of the game?

How about the QB ratings of both QBs?

Do you know who won the SB?

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RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) - 9/5/2014 2:59:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		If Seattle was giving up 40 points a game, Wilson would have to start throwing the ball deep, too. Instead of just being able to dink and dunk the whole game.


When was the last time you seen Wilson throw a deep out?
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RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) - 9/5/2014 3:00:04 PM   
John Childress


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Status: offline 		This has gone beyond silly

Rob Viking's weak ass excuses for Luck/Manning have been destroyed so this new joker chimes in with imaginary play results "should have been intercepted"

You sound like a 6th grader

So I guess in your world Green Bay won last night, right?

morons

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RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) - 9/5/2014 3:00:47 PM   
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RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) - 9/5/2014 3:06:37 PM   
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And somehow that causes you to throw the ball to the other guy?

Never heard more excuses in my life

Luck is a career 81 passer rating/ 70 in the playoffs

Did you even watch the games? Those were Favre like picks




Did you even watch the game last night?

Instead of calling Wilson a "game manager"....how about "Short Right"? Those two pass attempts over 10 yards which were to the left sideline to wide open receivers were late and short. Both should have been intercepted. Then there was that pass where Zach Miller made an incredible play to knock an interception away.



I would call him SB winning QB who smoked Rodgers last night

Shall we compare the 2 QBs from last night or from the Super Bowl?

You have so much hate in you that you are grasping at straws

"Should have been..."

Let's stay based in reality

You are really making yourself look stupid with this post

Do you even know the final score of the game?

How about the QB ratings of both QBs?

Do you know who won the SB?



Wow.

Did you watch the game? Did you see those 2 pass attempts over 10 yards?

I actually like Wilson a LOT. You are the one that has such blind love. Of course you have only seen Wilson play 3 times. I am sure that helps with your objectivity.

I am actually having fun with this since you are being such a moron that is just talking out of his ass. You have such an easy time picking out faults on any player but Wilson.
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RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) - 9/5/2014 3:08:03 PM   
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RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) - 9/5/2014 3:13:37 PM   
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1. Incredible stupidity

2. Blind hatred

1st 2 years in NFL

Peyton
52 TDs
43 INTs
16 wins
16 losses

Wilson
52 TDs
19 INTs
24 wins
8 losses
4 playoff wins
1 playoff loss
Super Bowl win

Luck
46 TDs
27 INTs
22 wins
10 losses
1 playoff win
2 playoff losses

When you guys are ready to stop being stupid or hateful and come back to the real world and not imaginary scenarios where Wilson lost the game, please let me know

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RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) - 9/5/2014 3:26:04 PM   
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RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) - 9/5/2014 3:26:27 PM   
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I'm not the moderator,

But the debate can be done without the accusations of hate, name calling, etc

Let's not let this board degrade into that...Please.

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