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RE: College Basketball - 2/14/2009 6:53:52 PM   
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Damn. 25 points, 20 rebounds, 9 blocks.

Just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in.


If we get in the top 3 choices we're going to get a huge upgrade.


Ergo...The Wolves will pick fourth. 

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RE: College Basketball - 2/14/2009 7:08:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Nah, they'll pick 3rd, but trade that pick for the 4th pick and cash or a worthless player. 



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RE: College Basketball - 2/14/2009 7:37:09 PM   
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Damn. 25 points, 20 rebounds, 9 blocks.

Just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in.


If we get in the top 3 choices we're going to get a huge upgrade.


We'll figure out a way to eff it up.
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RE: College Basketball - 2/14/2009 7:54:14 PM   
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Damn. 25 points, 20 rebounds, 9 blocks.

Just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in.


If we get in the top 3 choices we're going to get a huge upgrade.


We'll figure out a way to eff it up.


HEY! back to Viking land ya big lug.

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RE: College Basketball - 2/15/2009 9:51:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		The kid from Kentucky for the 3rd time this year scored in the 40's. Why don't I seem him on mock drafts? With that kind of production I would guess he could come out right now

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RE: College Basketball - 2/15/2009 10:14:13 AM   
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The kid from Kentucky for the 3rd time this year scored in the 40's. Why don't I seem him on mock drafts? With that kind of production I would guess he could come out right now

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Yes, Jodie Meeks.  He's a stud.  That's why I don't pay attention to the mocks, especially early.  Not only can Meeks shoot, he's a very good defender and he's strong.  Nice stroke and can get to the rim.  He will be a first round pick.
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RE: College Basketball - 2/15/2009 12:58:08 PM   
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The kid from Kentucky for the 3rd time this year scored in the 40's. Why don't I seem him on mock drafts? With that kind of production I would guess he could come out right now

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Yes, Jodie Meeks.  He's a stud.  That's why I don't pay attention to the mocks, especially early.  Not only can Meeks shoot, he's a very good defender and he's strong.  Nice stroke and can get to the rim.  He will be a first round pick.


Will he be a lottery?

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RE: College Basketball - 2/15/2009 6:20:19 PM   
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The kid from Kentucky for the 3rd time this year scored in the 40's. Why don't I seem him on mock drafts? With that kind of production I would guess he could come out right now

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Yes, Jodie Meeks.  He's a stud.  That's why I don't pay attention to the mocks, especially early.  Not only can Meeks shoot, he's a very good defender and he's strong.  Nice stroke and can get to the rim.  He will be a first round pick.


Will he be a lottery?

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RE: College Basketball - 2/16/2009 9:55:47 AM   
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RE: College Basketball - 2/16/2009 10:09:55 AM   
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I saw a little of McClintok (sp) yesterday. That kid can shoot and drive

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Jack McClinton, yes, he's an amazing shooter.  Almost single handedly beat UNC. He is the best shooter in the country, IMO.
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RE: College Basketball - 2/16/2009 11:27:38 AM   
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Then again I thought Brook Lopez would be a pile of crap, so what do I know?


That's the one place I get a little stuck too.

I'd be more than thrilled if we draft Hardin with our pick and Thabeet slides to the Miami pick. But either one of those is a long shot.


If we were to get lucky with our lottery and move into the top 2 or 3, I would definitely package Foye and the Miami pick to try to move into the second or 3rd slot. That way they could draft Harden and Thabeet (who will be  #2 or 3 by draft night) back to back.

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RE: College Basketball - 2/16/2009 11:30:57 AM   
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Then again I thought Brook Lopez would be a pile of crap, so what do I know?


That's the one place I get a little stuck too.

I'd be more than thrilled if we draft Hardin with our pick and Thabeet slides to the Miami pick. But either one of those is a long shot.


If we were to get lucky with our lottery and move into the top 2 or 3, I would definitely package Foye and the Miami pick to try to move into the second or 3rd slot. That way they could draft Harden and Thabeet (who will be  #2 or 3 by draft night) back to back.


I thought you weren't a Thabeet fan?

I saw Harden last night and I do like McClinton, Meeks and Lawson more

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RE: College Basketball - 2/16/2009 11:42:22 AM   
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Status: online 		Win the lottery and take Griffin and you will be in the drivers seat on most any trade. Of course we do so well in those situations.

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RE: College Basketball - 2/16/2009 11:43:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		I was never down on Thabeet. I never looked at him as top 3 pick until Tucker started raving about him and what he does without the basketball.

I completely disagree about Harden. I think he is easily the best guard in this year's draft. In fact I like him better than Rose or Mayo from last year.

Lawson is a very intriguing as I see him as a true PG and a top 10 pick, but Meeks (undersized SG mid 2nd round) and McClinton (small combo guard late 1st) aren't even in the discussion IMO.

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RE: College Basketball - 2/16/2009 11:47:41 AM   
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RE: College Basketball - 2/16/2009 11:54:43 AM   
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I like Harden, but no way do I think he's a better prospect than Rose.


Yes he is. You're wrong. I'm not going to debate it any further.

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RE: College Basketball - 2/16/2009 1:19:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Tonight is a big game for Thabeet - going against a tough Pitt front line. This is the game that could really sway me.
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RE: College Basketball - 2/16/2009 1:24:41 PM   
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Then again I thought Brook Lopez would be a pile of crap, so what do I know?


That's the one place I get a little stuck too.

I'd be more than thrilled if we draft Hardin with our pick and Thabeet slides to the Miami pick. But either one of those is a long shot.


If we were to get lucky with our lottery and move into the top 2 or 3, I would definitely package Foye and the Miami pick to try to move into the second or 3rd slot. That way they could draft Harden and Thabeet (who will be  #2 or 3 by draft night) back to back.


I'm in. And now I'm going to drift off into fantasy off season land:

You've taken care of our draft. Milwaukee is unable to move Jefferson and agrees to trade us Sessions at the deadline for the Boston pick and an expiring (Ollie?). We move Mike Miller for an expiring (Cleveland for Wally?). With our cap space we sign Marvin Williams since he can defend and nail the 3.

Sessions/Telfair
Harden/Brewer
Williams/Gomes/Brewer
Jefferson/Love
Thabeet/Jefferson

Suddenly we are young and BIG as a team, and everyone is playing their natural positions.
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RE: College Basketball - 2/16/2009 1:35:22 PM   
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I like Harden, but no way do I think he's a better prospect than Rose.


Yes he is. You're wrong. I'm not going to debate it any further.




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RE: College Basketball - 2/16/2009 1:54:39 PM   
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Tonight is a big game for Thabeet - going against a tough Pitt front line. This is the game that could really sway me.

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Actually Pitt's frontline is very small, height-wise.  Biggs and Blair are their only two big men to speak of and they are 6-8 and 6-7 respectively.  Blair is a beast and one of the best rebounders in the country, especially offensively.  He does outweigh Thabeet, but the key to this game is going to come down to which guy (Thabeet/Blair) can stay out of early foul trouble.  I would imagine that Blair will be matched up with Adrien primarily, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him defending Thabeet late in the game.  Pitt plays very  little zone, but they may have to more than they would like especially if Blair gets in early foul trouble, like he's prone to.

Losing Dyson hurts UConn but they are so deep, especially compared to Pitt.  UConn will probably go with both Walker and Price to start. 

Wanamaker has been contributing off the bench lately for Pitt, but that's about all they got on the bench.  Pitt will need a big game from Young and Blair, with Fields doing his usual thing.  Dixon needs to shoot well from the perimeter, something that UConn defends really well.

UConn is a 3 point favorite.  As much as I would like to see Pitt win, I think the spread is too low. 
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RE: College Basketball - 2/16/2009 2:16:30 PM   
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Then again I thought Brook Lopez would be a pile of crap, so what do I know?


That's the one place I get a little stuck too.

I'd be more than thrilled if we draft Hardin with our pick and Thabeet slides to the Miami pick. But either one of those is a long shot.


If we were to get lucky with our lottery and move into the top 2 or 3, I would definitely package Foye and the Miami pick to try to move into the second or 3rd slot. That way they could draft Harden and Thabeet (who will be  #2 or 3 by draft night) back to back.


I'm in. And now I'm going to drift off into fantasy off season land:

You've taken care of our draft. Milwaukee is unable to move Jefferson and agrees to trade us Sessions at the deadline for the Boston pick and an expiring (Ollie?). We move Mike Miller for an expiring (Cleveland for Wally?). With our cap space we sign Marvin Williams since he can defend and nail the 3.

Sessions/Telfair
Harden/Brewer
Williams/Gomes/Brewer
Jefferson/Love
Thabeet/Jefferson

Suddenly we are young and BIG as a team, and everyone is playing their natural positions.


A Timberwolve "Dream Team"

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RE: College Basketball - 2/16/2009 6:54:20 PM   
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Status: online 		Blair dominates Thabeet in the 1st half. Blair is too strong, too quick, and way more aggressive.

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RE: College Basketball - 2/16/2009 8:08:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		And there it is. Thabeet got ROCKED by a guy who would be a short PF in the NBA.

He had no impact on the game. Littler guys went right at him and I thought he looked lost playing team defense. He looked like he had no idea where to rotate to and almost appeared disinterested.

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RE: College Basketball - 2/16/2009 8:09:55 PM   
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And there it is. Thabeet got ROCKED by a guy who would be a short PF in the NBA.


Tonight that certainly was the case. Blair is as physical as they come but I expected more from Thabeet in such a big game.

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RE: College Basketball - 2/16/2009 8:15:17 PM   
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And there it is. Thabeet got ROCKED by a guy who would be a short PF in the NBA.


Tonight that certainly was the case. Blair is as physical as they come but I expected more from Thabeet in such a big game.


That's been him all year. When guys are scared of him, he crushes them. When guys fight back, he wilts.
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