Talk Vikes and Other MN Sports Talk Vikes and Other MN Sports

Forums  Register  Login  My Profile  Inbox  Address Book  My Subscription  My Forums 

Photo Gallery  Member List  Search  Calendars  FAQ  Ticket List  Log Out

RE: Gopher Football

  		Logged in as: Guest
Users viewing this topic: none
  Printable Version
All Forums >> [Other Minnesota Sports] >> Minnesota Golden Gophers >> RE: Gopher Football Page: <<   < prev  340 341 [342] 343 344   next >   >>
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: Gopher Football - 1/6/2017 11:06:46 AM  1 votes
Karl Juhnke


Posts: 13854
Joined: 7/28/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H
quote:

ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke
So we get the Brewster style rah-rah guy. Except this guy comes with a head coaching resume. He had the top ranked recruiting class in the MAC for 4 years straight. You might say MAC, big deal. But they all have roughly the same recruiting limitations and he consistently was at the top. That's how you build a program. First and foremost you need the horses.
And he took that MAC team to a bigger bowl game than the Gophers have played in over 50 years. I can live with a lot of bumper sticker cliches if he wins and runs a solid program.

Fleck had a lot of talent on that Western Michigan team. They looked like a program that could compete with anyone.
The last coaches we had couldn't figure out that Leidner was a bum for 3.5 years.


The Gophers had defensive talent to win 10 games and contend for the title. Claeys is a very good defensive coach that was too buddy buddy with his players. He isn't a bad coach---he would be a great MAC coach and after a couple years of seasoning could be ready.

First thing he may want to do is find a good diet, or he will be dead before he finds his next job. Seriously, I look at that guy and wonder when he is going to drop dead on the sidelines. Dude has to be pushing 4-bills.


I felt the same way. Say what you want but image is an important part of being a college head coach. To have such a large guy coaching an athletic program was not good. Not to mention the health issues.

_____________________________

8647
Post #: 8526
RE: Gopher Football - 1/6/2017 11:10:43 AM   
Brad H


Posts: 24062
Joined: 8/16/2007
From: Parts Unknown
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H
quote:

ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke
So we get the Brewster style rah-rah guy. Except this guy comes with a head coaching resume. He had the top ranked recruiting class in the MAC for 4 years straight. You might say MAC, big deal. But they all have roughly the same recruiting limitations and he consistently was at the top. That's how you build a program. First and foremost you need the horses.
And he took that MAC team to a bigger bowl game than the Gophers have played in over 50 years. I can live with a lot of bumper sticker cliches if he wins and runs a solid program.

Fleck had a lot of talent on that Western Michigan team. They looked like a program that could compete with anyone.
The last coaches we had couldn't figure out that Leidner was a bum for 3.5 years.


The Gophers had defensive talent to win 10 games and contend for the title. Claeys is a very good defensive coach that was too buddy buddy with his players. He isn't a bad coach---he would be a great MAC coach and after a couple years of seasoning could be ready.

First thing he may want to do is find a good diet, or he will be dead before he finds his next job. Seriously, I look at that guy and wonder when he is going to drop dead on the sidelines. Dude has to be pushing 4-bills.


I felt the same way. Say what you want but image is an important part of being a college head coach. To have such a large guy coaching an athletic program was not good. Not to mention the health issues.

Reminds me of a great t-shirt I saw in the Kansas crowd one year when Mangino was coaching them. "Our coach can eat your coach" it said.

_____________________________

Defense starts at the corners!
Post #: 8527
RE: Gopher Football - 1/6/2017 11:33:39 AM   
Phil Riewer


Posts: 29251
Joined: 8/24/2007
From: MN
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens
First of all let me say that I have no idea if Fleck is at long last the guy to lead us out of decades of embarrassment and mediocrity. What I do like is that Coyle identified his guy right away and went out and got him. We were spared the embarrassing cluster f***s that were previous major coach searches conducted by Teague and Maturi.
After hearing about how Norwood had a short list of BB coaches in his pocket at all times courtesy of his great Villa 7 program, we were subjected to a series of thanks but no thanks response including Flip Saunders who absolutely bled maroon & gold before settling for Pitino based on his name more than any accomplishments. Joel Maturi was even worse by first using an outside service to get us Basement Brew and then going through an embarrassing string of talking to coaches without getting permission from the schools’ permission first, getting doors slammed in his face, having alumni urging coaches not to come and work for him and finally settling on Kill and trying to pass him off as his first choice.
Coyle has a bit more of a major league feel to him than our last couple of AD's. From his comments when announcing the firing of Claeys, I got the sense that he knows you have to invest in a real coach and be ready to pay him at this level. He seems to understand that an athletic department at this level is a big time operation and it has to be run as such. Athletic departments have to be self-funding and the success of high revenue sports is crucial. I don’t know if he got the right guy or not. I do appreciate the way he went about getting him though.


I like how he had Fleck and Miles ready....no brainer to let Claeys go IMO. You don't sell out seats and with no new money coming in because Claeys & Kill weren't great fund raisers plus the new scandal had people picking one of Admin/Coach/Players. As bad as Brewster was as a coach I went to a Gophers Athletics fund raiser at Perham and Brainerd. I even was able to see Tubby in Perham one year. John Anderson always showed up to those whereas Tubby showed once in four years (our boss told them Tubby better come or no money as he was a big booster for the Baseball Team as his son was a stud for the team back in the day).

Brewster sure could fundraise even though Mason/Claeys/Kill were always the better coaches. Now hopefully we have the combo fundraiser/coach we need to move forward.

I did enjoy the defensive coaching job that Claeys did....we had a big time defense last year (even though the offense outside of Smith/Brooks stunk).

< Message edited by Phil Riewer -- 1/6/2017 1:57:46 PM >

_____________________________

SSG Riewer, Greg A Co 2/136 CAB
KIA 23 March 2007 Habbaniyah Iraq
Post #: 8528
RE: Gopher Football - 1/6/2017 11:47:42 AM   
TJSweens


Posts: 45709
Joined: 7/16/2007
Status: online 		That's an interesting point. I remember a story in the Pioneer Press after Mason was fired. The article stated that there were a lot of local high school coaches who did not like Mason. He came off as arrogant and aloof didn't seem to have any interest in forming working relationships with the Minnesota high school coaches. Basement Brew came in and immediately barn stormed the state to meet with every last one of them. In the short term he made a great impression and was a hell of a salesman. Too bad he couldn't coach and had no idea how to run a program.

_____________________________

"The eternal fate of the noble and enlightened: to be brutally crushed by the armed and dumb."
Post #: 8529
RE: Gopher Football - 1/6/2017 1:28:40 PM   
TJSweens


Posts: 45709
Joined: 7/16/2007
Status: online 		A short term boost is that recruits from a better recruiting class than ours are sure to follow Fleck here.

http://www.twincities.com/2017/01/06/expect-western-michigan-recruits-to-follow-p-j-fleck-to-minnesota/

“I committed to P.J. Fleck,” said Tyrone Chambers, a three-star defensive tackle who has reopened his recruitment. “I’m willing to follow P.J. Fleck wherever he goes.”

_____________________________

"The eternal fate of the noble and enlightened: to be brutally crushed by the armed and dumb."
Post #: 8530
RE: Gopher Football - 1/6/2017 1:49:24 PM   
Mr. Ed


Posts: 88732
Joined: 7/14/2007
From: Minne-so-ta
Status: offline 		In a statement Friday, Coyle called Fleck "a proven winner and a strong leader."

"He's built a unique, positive culture that gets the best out of his students on the field and in the classroom," Coyle said of Fleck. "His infectious energy and passion make him a terrific coach and dynamic recruiter. I am excited he will be leading the Gophers for years to come."



http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18418215/minnesota-golden-gophers-hire-pj-fleck-replace-tracy-claeys

_____________________________

Escape while you can!
Post #: 8531
RE: Gopher Football - 1/6/2017 1:54:03 PM   
SoMnFan


Posts: 94902
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

You aren't the only one either (worried how big he has gotten)....he had better watch it.

Glad someone else addressed it.
Looked bad as the head of a group you want to be fit and athletic.
Sorry, it's truth.

_____________________________

Work like a Captain.
Play like a Pirate.
Post #: 8532
RE: Gopher Football - 1/6/2017 2:01:20 PM   
Phil Riewer


Posts: 29251
Joined: 8/24/2007
From: MN
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens
That's an interesting point. I remember a story in the Pioneer Press after Mason was fired. The article stated that there were a lot of local high school coaches who did not like Mason. He came off as arrogant and aloof didn't seem to have any interest in forming working relationships with the Minnesota high school coaches. Basement Brew came in and immediately barn stormed the state to meet with every last one of them. In the short term he made a great impression and was a hell of a salesman. Too bad he couldn't coach and had no idea how to run a program.


Brewster/Anderson/Borton made time for everything/everyone at the Gopher Outstate Fundraising --Golf Scrambles....Mason/Kill/JJ/Tubby/Lucia hardly ever showed at the fundraising events outstate that I went to--they would send their assistants. Fans remember that too. I think I went for 5 years in a row in Perham and Brewster/Anderson/Borton went the majority and Tubby showed once as did the Hockey coach--Lucia (Perham doesn't have a hockey program so that isn't as big as a surprise).

You want to raise money & fundraise for the new athlete village...Fleck is the man. It tells you something that the University had to bring back Nanne instead of Kill....

< Message edited by Phil Riewer -- 1/6/2017 2:08:21 PM >

_____________________________

SSG Riewer, Greg A Co 2/136 CAB
KIA 23 March 2007 Habbaniyah Iraq
Post #: 8533
RE: Gopher Football - 1/6/2017 2:04:12 PM   
SoMnFan


Posts: 94902
Status: offline 		Grew up with the gophers #1 in-state signee this years Dad and his family.
They're not Fleck fans.
Psssssst ... That's ok.

_____________________________

Work like a Captain.
Play like a Pirate.
Post #: 8534
RE: Gopher Football - 1/6/2017 2:06:38 PM   
Mr. Ed


Posts: 88732
Joined: 7/14/2007
From: Minne-so-ta
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Grew up with the gophers #1 in-state signee this years Dad and his family.
They're not Fleck fans.
Psssssst ... That's ok.


Why not?

MN offense was hardly the stuff of future NFL stars.

_____________________________

Escape while you can!
Post #: 8535
RE: Gopher Football - 1/6/2017 2:10:28 PM   
Phil Riewer


Posts: 29251
Joined: 8/24/2007
From: MN
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan
Grew up with the gophers #1 in-state signee this years Dad and his family.
They're not Fleck fans.
Psssssst ... That's ok.


It takes some time...maybe a few calls will help, maybe not. Did they like Claeys (as that is bound to cause friction)?

_____________________________

SSG Riewer, Greg A Co 2/136 CAB
KIA 23 March 2007 Habbaniyah Iraq
Post #: 8536
RE: Gopher Football - 1/6/2017 2:13:12 PM   
SoMnFan


Posts: 94902
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan
Grew up with the gophers #1 in-state signee this years Dad and his family.
They're not Fleck fans.
Psssssst ... That's ok.


It takes some time...maybe a few calls will help, maybe not. Did they like Claeys (as that is bound to cause friction)?

They loved Claeys.
They're staying, but were turned off by Fleck during recruiting.
Like I said, it's not a big deal. I'll be pleasantly surprised if the kid ever sees the field.
No matter who coaches.

_____________________________

Work like a Captain.
Play like a Pirate.
Post #: 8537
RE: Gopher Football - 1/6/2017 2:35:38 PM   
Phil Riewer


Posts: 29251
Joined: 8/24/2007
From: MN
Status: offline 		Sounds like Sid and his repaired hip are going to be at the Press Conference (according to Chip Scoggins). He had Ruesse helping him there....:)

< Message edited by Phil Riewer -- 1/6/2017 2:44:53 PM >

_____________________________

SSG Riewer, Greg A Co 2/136 CAB
KIA 23 March 2007 Habbaniyah Iraq
Post #: 8538
RE: Gopher Football - 1/6/2017 2:41:05 PM   
McMurfy


Posts: 13792
Joined: 7/31/2007
From: Portland, Oregon
Status: offline 		Word out of Eugene is that PJ Fleck and his people were the only one's saying he was up for the job at Oregon.
Word was that Fleck was all sizzle and no steak.
That being said, I like Fleck and think he is potentially the best Head Coach Minnesota will have had since the days of Leather Helmets.

Claeyes(sp) and Kill were terrible, as you will hopefully soon see.

_____________________________

The Curse of Mauer is gone!
Post #: 8539
RE: Gopher Football - 1/6/2017 2:41:48 PM   
McMurfy


Posts: 13792
Joined: 7/31/2007
From: Portland, Oregon
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Sounds like Sid and his broken hip are going to be at the Press Conference (according to Chip Scoggins).



With a Tape Recorder plugged into a microphone.

_____________________________

The Curse of Mauer is gone!
Post #: 8540
RE: Gopher Football - 1/6/2017 3:12:23 PM   
twinsfan


Posts: 64709
Joined: 12/21/2009
Status: offline 		Listening to the Fleck press conference. He managed to outdo Brewster. He just said he has visions of Rose Bowls and National Championships.

_____________________________

Foxtrot
Delta
Taco
Post #: 8541
RE: Gopher Football - 1/6/2017 3:14:15 PM   
TJSweens


Posts: 45709
Joined: 7/16/2007
Status: online 		Jeezo Beezo, I can't wait for next season.

Please tell me he didn't say Gopher Nation.

_____________________________

"The eternal fate of the noble and enlightened: to be brutally crushed by the armed and dumb."
Post #: 8542
RE: Gopher Football - 1/6/2017 3:38:19 PM   
MDK


Posts: 8784
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Jeezo Beezo, I can't wait for next season.

Please tell me he didn't say Gopher Nation.


Would Gopher Territory be ok?

_____________________________

The good die too young. The evil live far too long.
See Donald J Trump.
Post #: 8543
RE: Gopher Football - 1/6/2017 3:38:30 PM   
twinsfan


Posts: 64709
Joined: 12/21/2009
Status: offline 		I think it would be funny if one of the reporters brings up a Brewster comparison with Fleck. See if he is aware of the scary similarities.

_____________________________

Foxtrot
Delta
Taco
Post #: 8544
RE: Gopher Football - 1/6/2017 3:39:27 PM   
twinsfan


Posts: 64709
Joined: 12/21/2009
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Jeezo Beezo, I can't wait for next season.

Please tell me he didn't say Gopher Nation.

No, but he has gone with Ski-U-Mah approximately a dozen times.

_____________________________

Foxtrot
Delta
Taco
Post #: 8545
RE: Gopher Football - 1/6/2017 3:41:10 PM   
Phil Riewer


Posts: 29251
Joined: 8/24/2007
From: MN
Status: offline 		I remember the only thing stopping Brewsters yapper was a sore throat from talking so damn much.....lol

_____________________________

SSG Riewer, Greg A Co 2/136 CAB
KIA 23 March 2007 Habbaniyah Iraq
Post #: 8546
RE: Gopher Football - 1/6/2017 3:56:05 PM   
McMurfy


Posts: 13792
Joined: 7/31/2007
From: Portland, Oregon
Status: offline 		I'm sure Fleck is already having his agent throw is name out there for job openings in San Francisco and Denver.

< Message edited by McMurfy -- 1/6/2017 3:57:24 PM >

_____________________________

The Curse of Mauer is gone!
Post #: 8547
RE: Gopher Football - 1/6/2017 4:23:49 PM   
Mr. Ed


Posts: 88732
Joined: 7/14/2007
From: Minne-so-ta
Status: offline 		"If you surround yourself with turds, you'll go to turdsville"

Fleck Quote

_____________________________

Escape while you can!
Post #: 8548
RE: Gopher Football - 1/6/2017 4:39:36 PM   
Karl Juhnke


Posts: 13854
Joined: 7/28/2007
Status: offline 		He's going to be on Barreiro sometime soon. I'm sure Barreiro will go down that line of questioning, how we've heard it before and how do you convince people you're more than talk.

What I heard of his press conference was pretty entertaining. He was really wound up. Even the simplest question would unleash at minimum 10 motivational poster type proclamations. I do not exaggerate.

But in between the bluster he said some really smart things. It's going to be a mixture. And it's not going to be dull.

< Message edited by Karl Juhnke -- 1/6/2017 4:46:33 PM >

_____________________________

8647
Post #: 8549
RE: Gopher Football - 1/6/2017 4:42:16 PM   
Karl Juhnke


Posts: 13854
Joined: 7/28/2007
Status: offline 		He has already latched onto Ski-U-Mah. He says it like a samurai warrior charging into battle.

_____________________________

8647
Post #: 8550
Page:   <<   < prev  340 341 [342] 343 344   next >   >>
All Forums >> [Other Minnesota Sports] >> Minnesota Golden Gophers >> RE: Gopher Football Page: <<   < prev  340 341 [342] 343 344   next >   >>
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Forum Software © ASPPlayground.NET Advanced Edition 2.5.5 Unicode